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Make SNAGIT for Linux
I tweeted this question and your folks there said to ask it here, so: Has TechSmith given any consideration to porting SNAGIT to Linux? I know I'd sure purchases a license if it were supported there; I use SNAGIT Windows and Mac now and would LOVE to have it on Linux (like Slickedit, Understand C, Beyon d Compare, Komodo and a bunch more tools I use who've ported to Linux/Unix).
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3Hey guys, I personally think its completely ridiculous for snagit to not be supported on Linux. How hard is it really? After some months of realizing these guys aren't going to port over to Linux, and looking at how terrible Ubuntu's defaults are, I started building my own. Here's all you need to build your own:
screenshot: xwd -root -out 0.xwd && convert 0.xwd 0.png
screen record: avconv -f x11grab -s 1440x900 -r 25 -qp 0 -b 4000k -i :0.0 -c:v libx264 -pre:v libx264-veryfast -s 960x600 -y /home/jbud/Videos/0.avi
want to select region? use xrectsel
show the region you're recording? -show_region 1
follow your mouse? -follow_mouse centered
notification of screenshot/recording: notify-send 'screenshot' 'snapped a shot'
My scripts are under development still, if you're interested in getting the end result send me a message in a few weeks or so and I'll be glad to share :)
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1Hi, thank you for your feedback. I'm sorry, right now we are not working on a version of Snagit for Linux. We will continue to review customer feedback and re-evaluate our priorities based on those requests. Thanks again! -
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1Hi mdturnerinoz,
I'm an occasional Linux user, too, and I can sympathize with wanting Snagit on Linux. In the meantime, though, I've found Shutter (http://shutter-project.org/2009/03/sh...) to meet most of my screen capture needs on Linux. Maybe this will work for you?- view 4 more comments
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You are right. There's a lot of people here talking against Linux or its community because they "think" we, as users, would not pay for a software.
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Nobody has said eo because that would be a false conclusion.
I think it is a fair conclusion however that most of the people on this thread are far more advanced computer users then the average person. The fact you even know WHAT a screen capture program is put you prob in the top 2%.
While one could argue many Linux users are generally more advanced users on whole... Techsmith has I'm sure evaluated the amount of market share they would need to get payment out of Linux to make the expenditure worthwhile.
This thread slants that number significantly because you were prob searching for a screen capture program originally and stumbled on this.
How many actual computer users NEED a SC program? On any platform. I would argue a very small number.
So Techsmith has X amount of dollars and programming time for development. and they obv have determined at this time its not in their best interest to spend money on Linux. That doesn't mean things can't change in the future and expressing your opinion in favor is one way to change their mind. However I think you may be waiting a very long time for events to change in the near future.
If SC is a must have for you, I'd suggest building one yourself or hitting the many Linux forums asking for one to be built. There has been one posted here on this thread that suggests somebody is doing something on Linux,. You could certainly go their website and offer up what you think it needs to add. Donating them a few dollars to help the developers I'm sure won't be frowned on. -
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I'm a primary RHEL 6.1 user and would love to be able to use both Camtasia and Snagit. -
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+1 Snagit for Linux! Much better than Shutter -
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Can't wait! Shutter and the usual "print screen" software on Linux is woefully inadequate next to Snatgit -
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been waiting for Snagit or Camtasia for linux for years. Always heard the same affabulation from techsmith, we continue to review customer feedback ... the same well oiled message to politlt say we do not care about linux.
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Hi, I bought SnagIt for Windows, but I'm no longer using that OS anymore. I want to have SnagIt for Linux. It would be great to have it on Ubuntu and other distros. Thanks! -
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1> do not care about linux.
I'm a Linux developer, and this is a misrepresentation. There are stark business realities at work.
First, the Linux desktop community is much smaller than the Windows community, and Linux desktop users are averse to paying for software. Not a good environment for developing and marketing a high-end application like Camtasia.
Second, developing GUI for X in Linux is VERY different than developing it for Mac. There are almost as many flavors of X as there are distributions of Linux. With Mac, you only need to worry about one implementation of X, and it's a really smooth one. -
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2Tony: Yes, that's true, there are lots of "challenges" to making Snagit work on Linux. However, products like Beyond Compare (www.scootersoftware.com) and Understand_C (www.scitools.com), and SlickEdit (www.slickedit.com) all have Linux versions of their products and seem to do well doing so (albeit, editors would presumably be less of a challenge to develop than dynamic graphics capture software like Snagit). (Note none of these are freeware which shows "someone' (like me) is willing to pay to have their functionality available.)
Note too that (other than SlickEdit) some of these vendors do restrict their "certification" to certain Linux distros such as Debian, Redhat, and Ubuntu (based on Debian of course). Limiting the available distro support would of course not solve the "X" problem, but if the aforementioned products can deal with that (note SlickEdit runs on Solaris and HP-UX as well), then I think the clever folks at TechSmith should be capable of the same.
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Hi, md.
Yes, I use the Linux version of Ultra-Edit, an excellent editor by the way. And you are correct about restricting the app to certain distros.
Most software vendors do provide a tarball of the sources so you can build from scratch for any of the distros that are not officially supported. However, you will sweat bullets hoping that you get through the configure script without unresolvable dependencies.
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I surmise that you are correct that developing sophisticated video screen capture and video editing apps in Linux is a lot more difficult than syntax-highlighting text editors.
I use QtSDK for my GUI app development, and it doesn't seem to matter what windows manager I use.
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I'm against SnagIt for Linux. I was annoyed when Camtasia came out for Mac at 1/3 the price I paid for it on Windows. I assume Linux users would want SnagIt for free like most Linux tools, and if SnagIt came out for free on another platform, I would be very mad.
I would rather they take the dollars I pay them for software to make the software I use better, rather than make a free version for other people. -
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if you are upset about the price difference so what makes you stop from using Mac. Enough said from such a shallow complaint.
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1I don't personally own a Mac, nor do I use Linux. Plus the videos I make train people on how to use Windows software...so owning a Mac version is less than pointless for me.
I don't appreciate paying $300 for software that costs $100 for Mac users. I'm a paying customer. It costs time and money to build applications and/or port them to other systems. So if SnagIt for Linux was developed included into a Linux distribution, that cost would have to come from somewhere: The budgets of the users who actually pay money to TechSmith. Sorry for the SHALLOW complaint that I have to reach DEEP into my pockets to pay for YOUR version. -
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Sorry picasso but I agree with dfarwell on this. I've been programming since 1973. The whole idea surrounding Linux is opensource. Nothing is stopping you from developing a product for Linux that is as good or better then SnagIt. As a registered user of this product I want the limited development resources(translation: my registration fees) of Techsmith to go to enhancing current products. People in Linux, and I use it in various platforms, do believe in free software. But you need to remember that somebody is devoting a lot of time and energy into that software you get. Much of Linux is being developed by large corporations to satisfy a need they have internally and you piggyback by getting much this for nothing. In the case of SnagIt there obv isn't a need for something like this.
Never seen a business model for a company that includes free products as their way to make money. Many tried in the heyday of the late 90's early 2000's and the only ones still standing are the ones that converted to a paid model.
dfarwell the difference in price may be to various licensing fees for Windows products to acheive the same effect on a Mac. I don't work fo Techsmith so I can only guess at that. I also don't know if the same features exist on the two different platforms. Its possible Windows simply does more.
Never worried about what someone else pays since the only person who needs to jutify what I spend is me. I buy a product to suit my needs at a price I think is fair. -
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It looks like a lot of people here would like to see Snagit on Linux...myself I wasn't ever a big fan of Snagit, but Jing was an incredibly useful tool for me in simple screen capturing and automatically uploading the image. I would very much love to see this fantastic tool working on Linux :)
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To David Young,
where in my reply did I say it should be free?
I've been using Unix and now Linux since way before windows was everywhere. I use non free programs on Linux (understand paid for a licence) and I have no problem paying for a program that facilitate my tasks. -
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And where in MY reply did I say You specifically said free? I said 'People in Linux'. Not all but many think that if its computer driven they are somehow entitled to it. If you want this type of program in Linux then develop it yourself. The tools exist for you. Take a poll of how many users of Snagit that are ALSO Linux users would be willing to pay for it at the cost it would be to develop it. I think when it came time to actually write the check they'd bail. I won't dispute it would be nice to have. Just not going be cost effective.
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Linux Ubuntu (and Mint) user here.
Very much interested in using SNAGIT on linux platform!!!
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1I am interested on it too. I am an Ubuntu user (maybe I will roll back to Debian).
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1Would be nice for Techsmith to really publish an answer to this. Just say how much you would charge Linux users if you were to distribute it.
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This has been a great thread to follow, and it's been extremely interesting to listen in on your perspectives and expertise.
All I know is that we have no plans for making Snagit on Linux, and I have no idea what we would charge. We'd have to consider all the costs to maintain, document and support it over time as well.
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Mike I think its safe to say that it would be cost prohibitive to hire new programmers and rebuild the platform. The cost for the end product will likely be very high to recoup those costs. While Linux is a great platform... its end users, some, are reluctant shall we say to purchasing product. Makes for a difficult business model at best. While SnagIT has its fans it really is a very niche product that isn't going to appeal to a huge amount of end users, Linux or otherwise.
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1I agree with David Young. Very few Linux users are willing to pay for commercial software. And the cost of entry is still high because of the fragmented Linux landscape.
The Linux world has to change before commercial software vendors will have reason to invest in Linux ports. And honestly, I haven't seen much real change in the Linux market since its inception.
This is why I'm glad that I'm a Windows user (and proudly so) and I've met several former Linux users (now Windows users) who regretted their decision to migrate to Linux. -
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As a recent convert to Ubuntu from the Windows platform I have to say that it would be nice to have Snagit and Camtasia ported over to Linux (Ubuntu) rather than having a Windows box dedicated to use those products.
As a convert I don't struggle with the concept of paying for decent software instead of going down the freeware route (I own Snagit and Camtasia Studio instead of using freeware alternatives) because I am a strong believe in you get what you pay for.
Sure the development costs may be a little higher and you 'may' have to worry about initial staffing costs but with more people asking about it then don't dismiss it out of hand because some of us would purchase licenses in a heartbeat. -
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1Simon while there is a small segment of Linux users who would buy it... the cost of development and the final cost in comparison to the amount of Linux users would simply make it very expensive. Too expensive for people who believe Linux and everything on it should be free. Nobody is picking on you but generally there is a major aversion within the Linux community to 'pay' for something.
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1David Young is correct. Linux has a reputation for having the majority of users who dislike the idea of paying for software. Whether or not that's true or how true it is is irrelevant; the perception is there and it influences people's decisions.
Like I said before, until the Linux community's attitude change (most likely never), the commercial software companies will never view Linux as a viable profit platform for application development. -
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1This is just a simple question to highlight what for-profit companies like Techsmith face with people who like Linux and claim to pay for software on Linux.
I would be surprised if 50% of you have ever donated a single dollar to the folks developing Libre(Open) Office that is installed most likely on every single one of your machines. Yet they ask for donations to continue development. Using LO has saved you hundreds of dollars in using a mainstream product like MS Office. So tell me how much have you donated to LO?
Techsmith isn't stupid. You save 100's on LO and never donate crap to them. Why would Techsmith think you would line up for their tools?
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1Yes, actually, this "Linux guy" not only donates cash, but time as well (and at $95/hr when I consult, that's quite a lot). I'm "into" Mageia Linux (a "fork" of Mandriva").
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1Md you are a very small minority of people out there however. It's cool you do this. However most people on Linux, users not developers, don't and that's why the For-profit business model for Linux comes apart. You can find exceptions to almost any rule but what is the norm? Techsmith can't sell 100 copies a year to the few that would pay and make this work.
I don't work for Techsmith and I don't have their sales figures but I doubt that they measure their Windows sales in hundreds. Nor could they keep their doors open for very long if they did. -
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1Having had a chat with a couple of other Linux guys (not a noobie like me) they all say that the general idea of getting something for free every time is changing, infact I was told to just look at the Humble Indie Bundle for people willing to spend money on software. I also asked whether people would purchase software if it offered more than the free editions and the simple answer was Yes.
The days of all Linux people wanting something for nothing is changing, with more people moving away from the MS platform for one reason or another (Windows 8 I am looking at you here!!) I think that there will be a larger uptake in developers realising that there is a market for their software on platforms other than MS and Apple.
I for one would still love to see Camtasia and Snagit on Linux and hope in the future that Techsmith decide to go down that route as well. -
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I would love to have Snagit on Ubuntu. I would easily pay for this software if it was available on my platform of choice.
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solution, cant you do a windows pack with needed DLL files and so on? so we eazy can install it and run it on Wine? i have done this on my Linux MINT 13, works great but took some time to copy needed files from windows. -
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Snagit is a great tool which I have been using for a number of years. However, I have had to migrate to a Linux platform on my laptop. Is there any plans to make Snagit usable under Linux?
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As Open Source Software continues to be common place - are you going to support any Linux Distributions with Snag-IT? Great application....love to use it on Linux.
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Those open source software you speak of are generally freewares. I hope you don't mean that SnagIt should be open source because Techsmith has no intention to make SnagIt open source and from a business point of view, commercializing an open source software is not a good business practice.
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Seems like there is a false claim by some that linux users are not likely to buy software. I don't think this is a valid observation, at least not in this forum. I think those folks that are here already paid for a licence. I did. But now I want to use a different OS, but that has nothing to do with my willingness nor unwillingness to buy licence.
One poster mentioned "Humble Indie Bundle", and that is one place to see what is going on. BTW I also bought a bundle there.
To buy and to donate are two different motivators and cannot be assessed in the same way. One asks for honesty, the other asks for love :-)-
Seems like there is a false claim by some that linux users are not likely to buy software.
Tony Camuso's so-called false claims is more convincing than yours. Why? He is a Linux developer so there is credibility to his claims. -
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> Seems like there is a false claim by some that linux users are not likely to
> buy software.
Whoa! I said they were averse to it, didn't say that they would not pay. As a Linux desktop user, I would be glad to pay for Camtasia on Linux. Just that there are far fewer Linux desktop users than Windows or Mac desktop users. And Linux is NOT monolithic, like Windows or Mac-OS. There are Fedora-based and Debian-based Linux distributions, just for starters. There is more than one desktop - Gnome, KDE, XFCE, to name just three. There is a struggle over the direction of Linux desktops, with many users unhappy about Gnome-3.
Development and integration testing a product with such complex requirements as Camtasia at this time may not be a good business venture given the numbers of users that are actually willing to pay more than $200 for one software package.
Most Linux software developers provide source code that can be built from scratch on the Linux platform of your choice. Of course, there are dependencies on other software packages that must be installed first for the package to function, or even to link correctly, so source code providers often provide a "configure" script to determine the presence of what's needed to build the software and to advise the user of any missing dependencies.
Proprietary software developers are not going to provide source code for you to build, edit, or share, as they are not open source by definition.
One successful proprietary developer that migrated a sophisticated product (Ultra-Edit) from Windows/Mac to Linux is IDM (http://www.ultraedit.com/). I have copies of their software for both Windows and Linux. Having started out as a Windows-based developer, I became quite accustomed to Ultra-Edit and its capabilities and was happy to pay for a Linux copy. Though I use VI and cscope in most routine editing, when I need the power of something like Ultra-Edit, I'm very glad to have it available. -
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3Hey guys, I personally think its completely ridiculous for snagit to not be supported on Linux. How hard is it really? After some months of realizing these guys aren't going to port over to Linux, and looking at how terrible Ubuntu's defaults are, I started building my own. Here's all you need to build your own:
screenshot: xwd -root -out 0.xwd && convert 0.xwd 0.png
screen record: avconv -f x11grab -s 1440x900 -r 25 -qp 0 -b 4000k -i :0.0 -c:v libx264 -pre:v libx264-veryfast -s 960x600 -y /home/jbud/Videos/0.avi
want to select region? use xrectsel
show the region you're recording? -show_region 1
follow your mouse? -follow_mouse centered
notification of screenshot/recording: notify-send 'screenshot' 'snapped a shot'
My scripts are under development still, if you're interested in getting the end result send me a message in a few weeks or so and I'll be glad to share :) -
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Congratulations! I'm interested in your development :)
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I'm glad to see some interest in this :)
I've finished the remaining pieces and uploaded the repository here: https://github.com/Jbudone/utilities
No implementation of region selection (since I probably won't use it myself), but if you or anybody else is particularly interested in this feature then I might add it in there. That goes the same for automatically uploading images/videos into your online account (like what Snaggit had). Also if there are any issues, please make a note of it on the repo; and if you have any particular requests for features, leave them here or send me an email and they'll go into consideration. Its an extremely simple script, but its a lot better than the defaults provided on Ubuntu imo. Enjoy :) -
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Thanks, JB, I'll try this out.
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I love Snagit on Windows, which I use at work. If Snagit were available on Linux I would gladly pay to be able to use it at home. It's much, much better than the alternatives currently available on Linux.
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see the change log
Much much much better solution: Ubuntu (free, fast, intuitive, great free support from the Ubuntu community)
Problem: lost my use of SnagIt.
Nevermind, there is a part solution called Shutter (free).
Sure it would be nice to reclaim my licence and continue upgrading/supporting SnagIt, but here is another dead end I'm not holding my breath on.
IMHO clever, forward thinking developers will concentrate their efforts on cross-platform. That is the future.
"Much much much better solution: Ubuntu (free, fast, intuitive, great free support from the Ubuntu community) "
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Sorry, but Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro) is an inferior OS. Not only I have printer issues with Linux, but a lot of the software I run is only available on Windows (To name a few: SnagIt, Adobe Photoshop CS6, PowerDirector 10 Ultra, PowerArchiver 2012, and Gladinet) and using WINE severely diminishes the performance any software that I use. The quality of the Linux software (including free ones) are a joke compared to their Windows counterparts, especially the proprietary commercial ones. Not to mention that gaming support on Linux is abysmal and it is a poor platform for HTPC (Linux shot itself in the foot by not implementing HDCP support).
Linux is not without its uses (works great on servers), but for a box I use for both work purposes and entertainment, Linux just isn't a credible replacement. Even Linux zealots would advise (with great reluctance, I might add) against switching to Linux for the reasons stated above.
Linux works wonderfully on servers but on the desktop it simply is a hobbyist proposition. It doesn't save me a dime when opportunity costs are considered and the programs seem several generations behind.
That's what has been so frustrating to hear from Linux users when they assert that Linux offers everything that anyone would want. It's not true and it's never been true. But they keep banging the drum, raising expectations and setting a large segment of computers up for frustration and money loss. Linux users will disagree with me and that's okay. I'm glad that their choices work for them.