MTS, Inserting clips, and other suggestions for Camtasia Studio 8

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I would like to add that this method (right click on Track, select all
clips on the track) does not work if one is attempting to add a clip
somewhere after the beginning of the track. One cannot simply select all
of the clips on the track; one needs to select only those clips beyond the
point where one wishes to insert the new clip. I see no simple way to
accomplish this in Camtasia Studio 8, unlike Camtasia Studio 7, where one
could simply drag-and-drop the clip into the middle of the track and have
all of the clips after that moved downward automatically by the correct
length.

I understand the appeal of having multiple layers which you have added to
Camtasia Studio 8. however, I do not understand why you eliminated the
capability of dragging and dropping a clip into an existing track, rather
than having the clip always end up on a new track and having to go through
the additional steps you describe to move it from the additional track
down to the track you wish to use.

I am creating a video of a wedding which consists of over 50 clips. It is
very tedious to move a large number of clips down an exact distance in
order to make room for one additional clip somewhere in the middle. I
would think many of your users are interested in being able to add a clip
in the middle of a single track.

Rather than writing out separate incident reports, I would like to make a
couple of other unrelated observations:
1. It would be helpful in the future if you could support .MTS clips. My
Canon camcorder records in this format. Reading your help, I have ended up
using Format Factory to convert each clip to .AVI in order to import it
into Camtasia Studio. I understand that this is not a trivial new feature
to add, but again I would suppose that many of your users also use
camcorders that record in .MTS format. It is more time consuming and
consumes more hard disk space for me to convert each clip into .AVI.
2. I see that you have removed the feature in Camtasia Studio 7 whereby
Transitions are dragged to a visual representation of the separations
between each clip. I can see the Camtasia Studio 8 has enhanced
Transitions whereby they can take place while the video is running. I
would point out, however, that it can be more difficult in Camtasia Studio
8 to locate places between clips where there are no Transitions. It was
easier to spot these in Camtasia Studio 7. This is a minor complaint.
3. I believe it would be helpful to have a list of features which have
changed between Camtasia Studio 7 and 8 for those users who are
experienced in Camtasia Studio 7 so that they can see how to change their
workflow in order to accommodate the changes in Camtasia Studio 8. I am
author of an electronic medical record which has been on the market for 20
years and which has released a new version every 6 months. This product
has over 1900 pages of onscreen context-sensitive help. With each new
version, I have had a "What's New" page listing each change in the
program, with hyperlinks into the main help describing each change in more
detail. The "what's new" page is directly visible from the Main Menu\Help
of the product, as well as in other appropriate locations.

Sincerely,

Charles R Welford M.D.
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I understand the concerns regarding inserting clips into a timeline position; there have been a number of posts about that issue.

I work with photo slide show projects with several hundred photo clips on timeline at once; I often insert clips where needed.

Here is my technique in CS8 ...

http://cookbookplus.com/temp/TechSmit...

After the first couple of times, I found this way to be both intuitive and fast.
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1. This does work for Images as shown in his video. I still think it is more work than it was in CS7 where you could just drag the image to the timeline and the program would do the work of moving the stuff after it downward.
2. This doesn't work the same way for video clips. Right-clicking and selecting "add to Timeline at Playhead" puts the clip into track 2, not track 1 (even though the playhead in track 1 is in a blank spot and there is enough room to accommodate the video). One then has to take the added step of dragging it to track 1 (and presumably eventually closing Track 2 since you don't need it and it takes up unnecessary room if you need to see other tracks). So that is even 2 more steps. If the video is short enough, you may also need to zoom in on the timeline to be able to grab it and move it down to Track 1 (or else it is too skinny to easily grab), but you have to zoom out again to select all of the clips after it with your mouse. Again, in CS7, you just drag the clip to the timeline and the program takes care of the work.

Why not just retain this capability in CS8?
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I was curious re what you experience when inserting viodeo clips; I do not see that behavior [maybe system related?].

I get the same easy outcome as when inserting images ...

http://cookbookplus.com/temp/TechSmit...
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Charles,

Re Your Point #1: .MTS Files

See Randy's conversion tip & use his GUI here:
http://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmi...

This converts .MTS to .MP4 and is seamless.

Format Factory may best only as an lower quality alternate.

There maybe some slight differences between the way Panasconic & Sony each records & saves .MTS files. This may be a reason why .MTS is not supported.

Randy's GUI tool does 1 to 1 conversion of videos I have shot with a GH2.
Try this tip. It works!

More about MTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD
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1. I am trying to put .AVI files on the Timeline, not .CAMREC. Try it with .AVI files.
2. Norton Utilities flags http://www.screencast.com/t/BmnGpLR9I9mz - ffmegwrapper as a malicious site and won't allow me to download it.
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I've confirmed that with [extracted from camrec] avi it goes onto blank track above; other than that, process is [to me] still simple; only had to grab avi and drag it down; maybe another 2 sec effort

perhaps log a case with tech support so they can chase down a bug?
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Charles

Norton does not know always what it is doing.
Randy's links are A-OK
I have used his GUI many times.
You will like it.
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1. AVI does go to track 1 when dragged there. It goes to track 2 when using right-click\Add to Timeline.
2. I appreciate the tip about selecting a bunch of clips at once and moving them with the mouse.
3. I still maintain that this method is difficult in my circumstance compared to CS7 where one didn't have to select the group past the desired insertion spot, move the group forward in time, drop the clip, reselect the group, and move it back. I have an hour of clips for one video. Some are very short, To select everything past the middle means zooming out enough to see from the middle to the end. But once one zooms out that much, short clips are so close together that it is very hard to precisely set the selection to just the first one you want to move. Why not just allow users to drag & drop the clip to the zoomed in timeline to the spot the user wants like in CS7 and let CS8 do the moving of the clips past it for you?
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Absolutely agree with Charles. With CS7 inserting clips was straightforward, with CS8 no no no more.
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Inserting, placing, and moving was straightforward in v7, but I always had difficulty extending clips. At least that's WAY better in v8.
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In v7, when you chose to extend a clip, you are given a box in which you can enter the number of seconds he would like to extend the clip. In v8, It extends it 1 second, and you have no choice in the matter. You have to then take your mouse and drag the extended clip to the duration that you wish to use. Although this may seem more "intuitive", if you know you want to extend it 5 seconds, it is much easier in V7 to simply type the number 5, than in V8 to drag the clip with your mouse until you get it to exactly 5 seconds. I really don't know why they decided to do away with this number of seconds box.
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I am trialing this product. I agree with Charles. I am quite incredulous that this feature of 7 no longer exists. In fact it is not just a "feature of 7" - the ability to have clips shift right upon insertion is a BASIC feature of any non linear editing program. Ok, its not SO bad (still bad) if you have everything on one track but if you use multiple tracks, forget it - I for one would not buy the program if this was not going to be rectified. This is a step backwards not forwards. IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT I CAN SEE WHY THIS FEATURE WOULD BE REMOVED. I can't quite figure it out as it otherwise appears to be a great NLE. Its like removing a steering wheel from an otherwise great car. Unfortunately folks accustomed to this feature in other NLEs are going to assume its in Camtasia when they buy it and are going to me mighty pinged that its not there!
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I see that others agree with me.

I also agree with Bryan that it would be desirable if CS8 would automatically move not just the clips on track 1 but also all of the items on the other tracks (if they are unlocked) past that moment on the playhead if one adds or deletes something from track 1 (i.e. a clip, image, extends a frame, etc). If one has carefully synchronized the Audio, Callouts, etc. in the other tracks to what is in Track 1, one does not want all of these items to suddenly be out of sync with the video when one changes something about the video. I can see that in CS8 it is possible to grab all of the items past the playhead and designate them as a Group, move all of them forward in time as a Group with one's mouse, insert or remove something from Track 1, and then move the Group back manually in time to the end of what you just changed, but this can get tedious if one needs to make a number of changes. I suspect the main argument against having the program do this automatically is that it can take a number of seconds for the program to do all the required adjustments, during which the user looks at an hourglass. One might therefore consider making this behavior an "Option" so that users may decide whether they prefer looking at an hourglass for a few seconds and letting the program do the work, or doing the work themselves manually by designating a Group and moving it around. My suspicion is that most users would vote for the hourglass.
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<> Yes, this seems utterly rediculous.
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I hope some are still following this thread, my issue has, so far, not been with moving a clip in between others on the video timeline, although, I can see that it will be an issue in my future.
Currently, my issue is much simpler, I think. When I add the first video clip to the timeline in 7 it defaults to the far left of the timeline, right up against the start. In 8 when I drag the first clip to the timeline, it drops wherever I release it and leaves an empty space between the beginning of the track and the start of the clip. I can then move it if I want, so it is easily resolved with an extra step.

Is this now the normal and expected behaviour?

It has become an issue for me because ver. 8 crashes when the playhead moves from the initial blank space to the clip. I have a support ticket in on that issue. I've mentioned the behaviour to the tech handling that ticket too.
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instead of dragging/dropping, right click the clip in clip bin, and add to timeline at playhead [in new project, the default position of playhead is t=0]

the easy way to get rid of empty space on timeline is to select it and use ctl-X

like from t=0 to where you dragged/dropped a clip
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Thank you kayakman. That will very simply get it placed at the beginning.
I was one of the ones who wanted additional video tracks, but, they changed so many things that were not broken.
Many of the changes make no sense. My version 8 apparently conflicts with other software on my machine, 7 works great.
Thanks for your suggestion
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I tried right clicking and adding to timeline at playhead and it puts it on a new track, not the one I want. Any way around this?
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if there are no other clips at playhead position, the added clip should end up on the lowest available track
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After it ends up on the track you don't want, drag it and drop it to the track you do want.
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I am in total agreement with Charles Welford on this one. I frequently do training videos where I jump back and forth between PPT clips and live demo clips. I do the latter as AVI files, for a number of reasons. I am pretty frustrated that I cannot simply drop a clip in at the playhead and have everything else move to the right to accommodate it. Seems like that should at least be an option...

This is yet another thing that is slowing me down in CS8. I expected a period of transition and learning, but my new workflow is jeopardizing my deadlines.
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Yes it is killing the product. Interestingly I followed this up with Tech Smith and while their reply was prompt I could not tell whether they were taking the matter seriously or not. They just seemed a bit unconcerned. This was just the impression I got - they could be taking it very seriously (which they need to).

One thing is for sure - you can't do serious work quickly and efficiently with Camtasia the way it is. For that reason I did not buy it (was simply trialling it) and could not recommend the product to others at this stage.

But it does have promise - they just need to get some more basic building building blocks in place first - especially for the price. BUT IF THEY DID, WOW IT WOULD BE A GREAT PRODUCT. And if my understanding is correct it would only be a matter of re-introducing features that existed in the superseded version?
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Try the July 16 8.0.2 build; I think they fixed it.

I looked for a way to insert a title clip. Nothing in help. After reading this thread, just for the hell of it, I tried Ctrl-A to select everything and dragged right. It worked!!!
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problem is that markers do not move together with the rest, they must be manually moved individually
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If working in CS8, convert markers from timeline markers to media markers; then they will move along with the shifted content.

see http://www.screencast.com/t/AQGs3SjnzMw
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Hi kayakman

Excellent, just wish it would default to media markers.
But this tip together with the latest 8.0.2 saves me hours of work

Have a great day/evening
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Great tip thanks so much
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Hold the shift key down while clicking the playhead. Drag the playhead to the right by the amount of time you need. All media will shift to the right. Drag the new clip into the blank space created by first step and cut to fit.
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Charles,

MTS (AVHCD) support has been added in Camtasia Studio 8.4.

Here's a support topic which explains the process:
https://techsmith.zendesk.com/entries/59413418

-Glenn
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