Make Camtasia Studio 64-bit

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When will Camtasia go 64bit, its a must for big projects being edited in Camtasia?
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Dave O'Rourke, Senior Software Engineer

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Daniel,

I can't comment on future releases. But we do appreciate your feedback and suggestions. Thanks.
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Can you comment yet on this? Since this was 3 years ago,  you must be getting close.
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This is a really weak response. 
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Any movement on this? I bought a new system to improve camtasias performance but realized there still isn't a 64 bit version and editing 10 minute videos is still slow.
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Yes. We're working on it. I can't comment on dates, but we are working toward a 64-bit version.

About the performance issues, make sure all of your source files are on the local hard drive, and not network drives, thumb drives, etc. Slow disk I/O (from network drives, or thumb drives) is the most common cause of performance problems.

Hope this helps.
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Dave,
Are you saying that source files should be on the C drive, which is where the operating system and program files are normally found? This is counter to what is recommended for other editors. It is normal practice that media files should not be on the system drive.
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Tom,

If you have multiple local drives, then yes, use the drive that does not hold the operating system. The key is low-latency disk I/O.

During production, the operating system will be reading from the system drive (usually the C drive), reading the source files from wherever you store them, and writing to the temp folder configured in the Tools > Options dialog in the editor.

If you have 2 drives, you could configure them like this:
C: Operating system and Program Files. Camtasia Studio is installed here, and by default, the temp folder will point here too.
D: A 2nd local drive, for storing your source files. You can put your output files here too because during production the temp folder is used until the production is complete, at which point the final result is moved to the output location you specified in the production wizard. So almost all of the disk writes go to the temp folder, and only at the very end is there one big write to move the final file(s) to the desired output folder.

If you have 3 drives, you could configure them like this:
C: Operating system and Program Files. Camtasia Studio is installed here
D: A 2nd local drive, for storing your source files, and perhaps your output files as well.
E: A 3rd local drive, used as a scratch disk. This is where you point your temp folder.

With multiple drives, the key to increasing performance is to separate the reads from the writes. By reading from one disk and writing to another, you can achieve a higher throughput.

Hope this helps.
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Isn't it somewhat pathetic that other programs can release a 64 bit version in less than half the time you guys can. If the 32 bit version was able to handle even a medium size project then that'd be fine but I find that camtasia cant do half the things other programs can and yet it costs more. I'm pretty sure the easy to learn and appealing interface is the only plus of this software. Add some presets like Sony Vegas and AE and your still only 1/10th of the way there.
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He is not saying saying that editing is slow in general. He made an obvious reference to video content that is approaching or over 10min. The amount of edits begin to slow the app down dramatically, because this BS 32bit limitation causes Windows to start writing to a swap disk, when most users have plenty of RAM.

This 4GB limit (32bit app) is so 10yrs ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just sick of it, at this point. I've put up with this limitation long enough, and am moving back to editing in Premiere Pro. It isn't designed to edit for training videos and such, like CS, but it also doesn't have this old-tech 32bit limitation, either. Your customers have been asking EMPHATICALLY for 64bit support for several years, and at some point, we say "Enough is Enough!" and move on to another product. That's where I'm at. I'm so done fighting with this app over this ridiculous limitation, that I do not have with any other software product I use.

You seriously need to put all (coding) hands on deck and roll out a 64bit version or you will lose a lot more of your userbase, like me. Premier Pro can now do voice overs and just about everything CS can do, but with a lot more speed.
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Thanks, Dave. I have everything running from a SSD running on SATA 6. Doesn't get much faster :)
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Problem is when I have projects that are longer than 6 minutes. Editing (splitting, moving, etc) becomes very slow and labored. I need to be able to edit projects up to 15 minutes. I have gobs of ram, camtasia should use it.
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to keep editing blindingly fast ...

my workaround is to slice up complex, long, projects into short segments using markers, put the separate marker segments in Library, then edit each separately as there own snippet project

fully edited sections are returned to Library as a version of the original

when all sections are edited, I return all from Library together on timeline as a composite project, and produce
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I'll have to use this method. Thanks.
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if not familiar with using the Library, these tutorials may be helpful ...

http://www.screencast.com/t/2bkaWe3hc7z
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Kayakman, that might sound like a workable solution, but it is nothing more than an inconvenient, time-consuming, workflow-killing WORK-AROUND. What is it we are actually working around? This cursed 32bit limitation (we have been hamstrung with for 5yrs too long, now)!
I have known that I could render out segments and post them back in, but it involves having to STOP WORK > waste several minutes rendering (if it doesn't crash), then waste a few more, taking counter measures to replace the cut up original with the rendered and having to save out to a different file.

I don't have to wast my time with all of that BS in Premiere Pro, and that's why I'm going back to using it for my training videos, rather than being hamstrung with this absolutely absurd 32 bit limitation...when practically every other app in the universe has long since converted to 64bit
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rendering is so low and it does not use all resources i got
AMD 6 cores and 8gb ram and it use 20% of CPU.
how good is to have a powerful computer if the software is not well design?
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Camtasia Studio 8 is a 32 bit application; I believe on Win 7, it can use up to 3 GB RAM
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I completely agree. I am anxious for a 64-bit version of Camtasia that takes full advantage of the CPU cores and memory. A quad-core hyper-threaded CPU with 8 GB RAM or more is very affordable these days. I believe that 64-bit is the single most important improvement for Camtasia that TechSmith can offer, as it will resolve many performance and reliability issues.  I noticed a huge improvement when I installed a SSD as my primary and only hard drive, 64-bit would take it the rest of the way.
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Come on, Techsmith, this is getting ridiculous trying to edit videos! At least do something to the 32bit version that helps work with larger files or something, anything! 8.4 is a tiny bit better, but it still takes upwards of 10 seconds to cut a small clip, or apply an undo command. But, it takes 8.4 about 2 minutes to lead my file before I can start editing. 
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I have a core i7 4790 + 16gb of ram and my Camtasia remains slow in the same way when I had an i3 + 4gb ram core, it is necessary that the camtasia pass to the 64bit version to use the full potential of the processor, please answer it to our requests, I have the original version and I want to enjoy these things.
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It was taking 15 minutes to open my cam file with 8.4. I had 40 minutes of screen recording and two audio tracks. I had a lot of edits on the audio tracks. I ended up publishing the project to an mp3, deleting all my audio tracks and then importing the mp3. This helped speed up the file greatly. So, it seems that camtasia has issues handling audio tracks with lots of edits.
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the CS editor's performance is a function of many variables, among them, then number of timeline objects [clips, callouts, captions, etc.], and the number of edit actions [cuts, splits, stitches, etc.]  the more there are, the more demanding editor is of system resources

to consistently keep editor performance as crisp as possible, periodically produce the audio/video tracks as an AVI [loss-less]; then substitute that single AVI for the original audio & video content in the project

if you need to keep file sizes smaller, produce to MP4 instead

if you want to just simplify the audio, try exporting to WAV [lossless]

if you think you may need to revisit the project's objects and edit properties, periodically export as zip before burning things in

once you've finalized things like callouts [not hotspots], burn them into the AVI so they too can be removed from the project

if your project uses hotspots, quizzes, etc., add them to the [final] project last, then produce

you can also break the project in to sections, using the library, to help editing sections of complex projects
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Thanks.  The advice is valid, but I hope to see CS as a real 64 bit system soon.  Anything beyond the 10 minute mark for me and the system seems to slow to a crawl.  CS is a much better interface than others I have tried.  
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Está sempre realmente vai mudar o tempo do CS para a versão de 64 bits, eu tenho um core i7 4790 + 16gb  + GeForce GTX 760 ea respiração continu camtasia igual ao tempo de quando eu era uma configuração mais baixa, isso é ridículo, ainda mais levando em conta o elevado valor deste programa.
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This is such an impractical suggestion. It is a suggested WORK-AROUND to what you KNOW is a major limitation. I'm sick of TechSmith trying to pass the blame/fault off to users as if they don't know how to work optimally or are using slow Hard Drives. You need to try and work on 10-20min videos every day, with about 50+ edits. You'll be just as pissed off as we are.

Your suggestions require a work stoppage > render for several minutes JUST TO GET AROUND YOUR OLDSCHOOL 32Bit limitation. 32bit is 1990's technology, for Pete's sake!
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I bet my left mouse button that they simply can't do it with CS, either because it would take too much time to rewrite all their 32-bit libraries to 64-bit, or they have no one that is capable of actually doing it. So either way it's not economically justified for them to do it, otherwise they would have done it twice already. Quite a shame, CS is a nice and handy piece of software but Techsmith will lose their customers eventually. And those who bought it not knowing it's practically unusable for longer videos will curse their ignorance and move on to competition. Like I did.
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Kayakman's response is absolutely correct. You can argue whether you should have to do this and you can assume using 64-bit code would solve some of the problems, but the advice he/she gave is exactly what's kept me out of trouble with crashes for the last two months. Just one up-vote for the advice.
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It's a work-around, and time-consuming ones at that. These are work-arounds I don't have to deal with, when using Premiere Pro, so that's where I am going starting now. I'm just sick and tired of the 32bit limitation...which has been a problem FOR YEARS! It has either gone ignored or treated with a severe lack of urgency. In either case, they've delayed it one day too long. I don't have any other 32 bit CG app on my system. If you think I'm pissed...believe me, after fighting with the app for almost a full day, to recover constantly crashing files...I have some choice words I'd like to use, but won't.
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So, any updates on the x64 version? It's been two years since you confirmed you're working on it... 
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Camtasia absolutely needs to be released as a 64-bit, multi-core, multit-hreaded application. I'm outputting a very simple 7 minute HD screen recording with one video track and 3 callouts and a couple zooms on a 12-core system. The CPU is never above 4.7% and that's unacceptable. 
Two years we've been waiting and no word? For the love of everything holy, please release a *modern* application!
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Techsmith, when will the 64 bit version of Camtasia be released?
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Techsmith, I am in Day 10 of my 30 day free trial. Despite crashing, I like Camtasia. If there is a date-certain 64 bit release, I will purchase the 32 bit version and upgrade to the 64 bit version when it is available. Is there a release date for the 64 bit version?
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Techsmith, the playback/processing limitations of my existing 32-bit Camtasia Studio 8 program have me evaluating other solutions. I'd rather stay than switch ... I'd really appreciate knowing when to expect the next solution.
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To begin i want to say thank you for Camtasia! I am working on what has turned out to be a long project and I have enjoyed all the editing capabilities of the program and the ability to record video and audio right into Camtasia, and that actually added to the project growing way beyond what i expected. Instead of a 20 to 30 minutes comment on some of the benefits of my FutureVisioning Hypnotherapy work, it turned into the story of how i developed my process and how it can help people heal their past and create their future. My journey has been over the last 40 years so it is a lot longer than I thought it would be. I am very happy your software offered the tools to capture this story, and it is now over 2 hours.

Considering the fact that Camtasia was not originally designed for this i am pleased i have been able to do as much as i have, but as the project grows the problems increase. i have been lucky compared to some of the people who have had problems with much smaller projects and that is probably because i have an i7 processor and lots of storage... but loading my project and trying to move large blocks of audio and video became very sluggish and i started looking at Adobe Premiere. It is more expensive and more complex and I can't move all the pieces into premiere and still be able to edit them so i wanted to stay with Camtasia to finish this project so i just upgraded to a Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB solid state drive in my computer. That has been great because instead of 25 to 30 minutes to load Camtasia and my project, i can now load Camtasia in about 20 seconds and my project loads in under three minutes. This is a huge improvement. When Camtasia crashes which seems to happen when i select a segment with the red and green markers and then try to play something outside of the area selected, and sometimes when i try to move a large block, (30 minutes or more) of the program to insert a segment. Grouping helps a lot but that takes a minute or two and then i have to ungroup to do any editing there. Also the movements of large blocks are very slow and jerky and imprecise.

I haven't tried a big project with many edits in Premiere (which is a 64 bit program) but it seems much smoother with scrolling and moving parts and it doesn't have any slowness in these areas and it uses more of my CPU and more of my 32 GB of memory. I really like Camtasia but feel frustrated that it is not using my computers resources and is slowing me down.

Also i requested that you make the video preview screen bigger so i can set the parameters of my camera shots more accurately without having to do many short takes to get the lighting right... and with my big project the camera initializing process freezes when i try to do several of these short takes. Hopefully a 64 bit version would solve that as well.  And, as long as i am rubbing this magic lantern, i wish you had some color correction because with the small preview i didn't get the lighting and color right in several segments so i am having to take those segments into Premiere to color correct them and then bring them back into Camtasia.

I don't know what is involved in producing a 64 bit version but this thread and the technology has been around for years.I spent the time and money on my computer so its your turn. In my FutureVisioning Process I help people envision their future... so I would love you to see a future where you put out what i need ((a 64 bit Camtasia) soon! :-)

Thanks for all you have done and all that Camtasia does do. My lifes work is being captured and will hopefully be spread to millions of people and to a world that needs a brighter future because of you and your program.

Ti

P.S. About 35 years ago was involved in a film production company, and I both trained on and did numerous projects on the first video editing machine that Sony created. All the raw film and video had to be converted to 3/4 or 1 inch tape and the reel to reel video machines and the editing console took up two large rooms and it probably cost several million dollars, and your software here in my computer accomplishes more and does it faster and easier than that multi million dollar machine could do!  So I really do appreciate you. Thanks...  :-)
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Looking forward to a 64 bit version.  

This is meant mainly for a server side application running for a dedicated purpose.  But for those who have a camtasia only system... this may allow larger files without crashing as often.  I did not test.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb613473%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
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I also want to see a 64-bit version in the future-Camtasia Studio is my main video editor, and I am currently working on a 1080p 2-hour long project, which can be very slow and often crashes the program, so I have to continuously save to make sure that I don't lose anything. Please release a 64-bit version!
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There must be a reason that Techsmith will not provide any information about a possible 64 bit version of Camtasia. Is it because they are abandoning the product? Are they experiencing financial difficulties? Do they lack the resources? Hopefully, it is none of the preceding.

Although I have moved on due to its frequent crashes, I love the Camtasia interface and capabilities. If there were a 64 bit version (that solved the crashing problem), I'd be back in a flash.
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Is there any updates on this? Cause this would help alot for editing!
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I have not heard anything about a 64-Bit Version as of yet and if I would have I could have not said anything as TechSmith will not say anything about a new release or the features until it is released. I too hope the new version when released has the 64-Bit feature along with ASIO for the audio features. Thanks for posting everyone and all we can do is hope they are listening on these issues. Time will tell us when the newest release is out in the public and I have no idea when that might be either. Have a great day/night.
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4 years and still not 64 bit. Are you guys all on vacation?
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Extremely frustrated with this product after the last round of multiple crashes per working session.   (and Techsmiht community people, with all due respect, please don't contact me asking for my project and logs - because you all know what the problem is - just look at your forums) - Being sarcastic here - it seems the best way to get great performance from Camtasia, is to take all your footage - scale it down to 640 * 480 and then re-render it using Camtasia's - .mp4 output only AND then use those re-rendered files in your project. Also make sure you use only about 5 tracks, anything after that it starts to choke. I'm sorry guys, I have been a loyal consumer of Camtasia for a long time, and I have a love-hate relationship with it. Its constant crashing, memory errors, failures, stuttering, preview problems, the fact that I cannot use stock footage from pond5 or videoblocks 1920 * 1080 directly (preview stutters) - I need to import each file, scale down and re-encode in order to get smooth previews. THEY know these problems exist, the forum is littered with them, BUT yet they refuse to provide any real solutions. If there was an alternative product out there (Adobe Premiere is great but not as easy to use as Camtasia) - I would be using it over this garbage any day.  We can only hope that this 64-bit is coming and the improvements in the tool will follow. Sorry for venting, but they need to know this stuff.
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All projects are 1280 * 720. For the most part I use 720p .mp4 files and  the Camtasia  default screen capture formatted files. I also split .mp4 files to separate the audio, if there is some footage I need to use from another previously recorded assets that I don't have the source files from. I use many cuts and transitions. Multiple tracks 10 to 15. Footage with crops to extract existing images / animations to be used in other areas of the timeline. .mov files exported from Adobe After Effects.  Most .mov files from pond5.com come as 1920 * 1080, I must import them into camtasia first, scale down to 720 in order to get them to even preview in my existing project.  I try to group and use the library as well.

All files stored locally on SSD drive.

Note:  a work-around to achieve a desire effect is one thing, a work-around to stop the product from crashing is another.

Thanks - again sorry for the frustration, but every time I need to restart Camtasia, deal with a stuttering preview, or need to edit a text call out with more than 2 lines of text, it is a constant reminder of how much I love to hate this product.
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Hello, Michael;

The frustration is completely understandable.

As for the MP4 files you reference; are they generally just produced projects or are they also from sources like the MOV files (i.e. stock footage)? We should be handling the MP4 files that are produced out of Camtasia Studio with relative ease; out of curiosity, if you add a number of the MP4 files from Camtasia to a new project do you experience the same issue? Another thing to note is that you will want ensure all of your source files are no more than 30 FPS; anything higher requires Camtasia Studio to go through and on-the-fly cut out any frames above that framerate.

Something to keep in mind regarding Stock Footage (pond5.com) and After Effects is that they tend to create high-bitrate files. Due to Camtasia's current 32-bit architecture those high bitrates can be a massive source of frustration for Camtasia users. What we recommend is to use HandBrake to transcode higher bitrate files as it will decrease the bitrate while maintaining the quality. HandBrake is a free application that is fast and very easy to use. You can download it at www.handbrake.fr.

Once downloaded you would add your media file(s) and set the "Web Optimized" option and then the output file name and location (note that you will want to open the Preferences/Options for HandBrake and set the output to .MP4 if you plan to transcode multiple files via batch production). I am a bit of a stickler for constant framerates to I personally click on the Video tab set the Framerate to 30 then click on the Constant bullet point (note that this may slightly increase the transcoding time).

There is also the recommendation to use the 16-bit, 44.1 kHz WAV file
format for any external audio that you bring in (this is exclusive to
audio-only files) as they are far easier to decode on the timeline (not
to mention MP3 audio is compressed and to me they do not sound as clear
as WAV files).

I know it is not ideal, but this relatively quick process can significantly improve Camtasia's performance while working in more in-depth projects.

Feel free to let me know if you have questions (or would like me to put together a quick vid on using HandBrake for multi-file transcoding); I'm happy to help and thanks for all the great feedback!
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thanks so much, I will try and ensure these parameters right now, I have just finished a project and will employ these new practices in my next one - I will update you on my experience.
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Hi, I just upgraded to Camtasia 2.10.4 for Apple and now experiencing color mapping/distortion problems with our output. When you first capture, there is a noticeable, yet acceptable degradation in the image. Upon output to MP4, there is considerably more distortion. In particular, this problem occurs with green. In my case, our forest green comes out a neon lime green. Does anyone know what can be done? Thank you.
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Hi, I just upgraded to Camtasia 2.10.4 for Mac and now experience color mapping/distortion problems during capture and publishing output to MP4. When you  capture, there is a noticeable, yet acceptable degradation in the image. The color appears washed out with greater saturation. Upon output to MP4, there is considerably more distortion, like you amped up the brightness. Particularly, this problem occurs with green. In my case, our forest green comes out a neon lime green. I'm running OS X with LCD Resolution 2560 x 1440 and 32-Bit Color Pixel Depth. Does anyone know what to? Thank you.