audio scrubbing

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Hi everyone,
I'm contemplating a purchase of Camtasia for Mac but weighing it against ScreenFlow, as many people likely do.  There's things about both that I like.  I especially like SF's interface that just seems to work super fast (maybe because it's a native Mac App) but I like the integrated features of Camtasia better, except for that SF can record iOS devices as a sepeate source. 

So with that said, I was going to choose SF because of the price point, although wishing I had some of the Camtasia library inclusions and behaviors, etc.  But Camtasia is on offer now bringing it down to the same price as SF, or even less if considering that the library inclusions are a paid add on with SF (Flow Mobility Pack (anyone think this is worth it?)).
So then I realized something while editing for the first time with Camtasia last night and with subsequent searching.  No audio scrubbing!  This is basically a no brainer deal breaker unless someone can help me understand a workaround for inserting precise trim points and the whatnot, or can convince me that it's not that big of a deal....or that Camtasia at that price is that much better than SF despite this 'limitation.'
Thanks!
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Hi.
Might put your vote in here:https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/camtasia-feedback-feature-request-round-up
to increase a little pressure maybe. Where ́s Camtasia "on offer" BTW? The update price tag is as high as for my 2.x license which is too steep for me unfortunately.
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So it's not even 'planned' but just 'under consideration'.  You can't edit video properly without that, so...
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My issue with Camtasia is recording a portion of a screen. I think it has a bug and it needed to be solved.
For example, when I use wondershare to record a portion of a scream it allows you to go to youtube, facebook, a website, etc and carve out the portion right on the website the website that you trying to record. I tried this with Camtasia and  you have to carve out your desired portion  there on the Camtasia
GUI. Once you go back to your desired screen that you want to record from the tool for carving out part of the scream does not popup. Now if you need to record an entire screen Camtasia is perfect for that. But most of the time I just need to record the video player  in which wondershare is perfect for that
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I believe it ́s there under "last used" - no?
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The best editing workflow is really dependent on your personal preferences,

 I use Premier Pro and several other video editing programs. All for different reasons.

They all offer timeline audio scrubbing and a whole host of features that Camtasia probably never will.

 

So you either like and want Camtasia as offered enough to purchase "As Is". Or you don’t.

 Regards, Joe

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Any video editing that requires the video to stay synced to the audio, such as for screencasting, requires the ability to hear the waveform at each frame.  This isn't a feature, in my opinion, but a requirement of a video editor.  But again, I'm open to examples of how to do editing without audio scrubbing.
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...and I like Camtasia otherwise, otherwise I wouldn't be here trying to figure it out.  :)
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true
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Where ́s Camtasia "on offer" BTW?
I got an email offer at $99 cause I'm mid trial.
:)
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That ́s the normal upgrade price as it likewise was for a new 2.x license. Camtasia went too pricey for me after 6 month for the upgrade to 3.0.
And +1 for Audio Scrubbing - even I won ́t reach it. ;-)
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it is way too expensive. I just bought it and realize the tool doesn't pop up when trying to carve out a specific area from a specific window. in other words, if I am trying to carve out the video player from youtube it would not let me. So you have to carve it out from Camtasia GUI and basically guess the size and location of the youtube player.
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I ́m not 100% sure - but if you want a YT video get a free app for download just this.
If you want to record the player plus video on YT choose def.area or how it ́s called in the English version.
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I am fully aware of that, but sometimes you only need a fraction of the YT video not in its entire duration. Like I said I do have wondershare for that
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And that is not possible with Camtasia/def.Area/last used? I ́m confused as this is what I ́m constantly doing with v2.10.8
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Is this what you are trying to do?
https://www.screencast.com/t/3RYzuqsw
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Camtasia is not about a single feature like scrubbing. I have Adobe Creative Cloud, which means Premiere and AfterEffects are there on the Dock for use anytime they are needed. Of my last 10 client videos, Premiere was required twice (once to create a moving mask to apply some skin color correction and once to assemble 660 PNG files into one 22-second video clip). In both cases I created the effect in Premiere and assembled the video in Camtasia.

Why? Ease of use. I do all my image editing in Photoshop, which has required years of practice to gain minimal competency (for example, this book covers a single Photoshop command). Premiere is at least as capable as Photoshop, and just as opaque. Contrast those complex Adobe products to Camtasia, which enables you to be competent within a day.

I'm sure Screenflow does scrubbing better than Camtasia. I know Premiere has 10x the capability of Camtasia. But if your time has value, Camtasia will win almost any competitive evaluation.
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Camtasia is not about a single feature like scrubbing.
I'm sure Screenflow does scrubbing better than Camtasia.
No, of course it isn't.  But it's a fairly basic feature that Screenflow and even iMovie have.  But I'm here on the forum to hear from users like yourself on how you get around this, or to hear that it isn't as important as I think it is. 
I know Premiere has 10x the capability of Camtasia.
I'm a long time Premiere and Final Cut Pro user, but that was in another life where I was on tour most of the time mixing bands.  I used video editors out of necessity from time to time back then.  Now I'm a teacher and need to purchase a video editor using my own money for completely different reasons.  I'm pretty sure I still need audio scrubbing.  But maybe that's just because I'm a sound guy, not a video guy, so I may be predispositioned to thinking in audio terms.  
But if your time has value, Camtasia will win almost any competitive evaluation.
This is what I'm most interested to hear about, if you have the time and inclination to write a bit more.  I'd love to hear why you draw that conclusion. By the way, do you use it on a Mac or Windows?  If you're a Windows user, I wonder if you'd think differently using it on a Mac. 
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Premiere is all about keyframes and effects layers and whatever. Watch this video to see how "easy" it is to pan and zoom on a still image in Premiere:



In camtasia, you drop the "custom" animation on the clip, drag and scale it, and you're done.

As much as we like to complain about Camtasia, the fact is that they have done a great job making professional video editing easy. 
Now I'm a teacher and need to purchase a video editor using my own money for completely different reasons.  I'm pretty sure I still need audio scrubbing.  But maybe that's just because I'm a sound guy, not a video guy, so I may be predispositioned to thinking in audio terms.
Neither Camtasia nor Screenflow will likely satisfy you. Check out Audacity, it's free and full-featured. If Audacity doesn't measure up, you need a full DAW.
By the way, do you use it on a Mac or Windows?
I started on Camtasia Studio for Windoze back in the buggy version 3 days (late 1990s), then transitioned to Camtasia Mac 5+ years ago.

 If you're a Windows user...
Life's too short.
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I use Audacity all the time for multi track waveform editing.  Anyway, it seems I can use SF and Camtasia at the same time.  I'm going to record my next screencast using both at the same time and edit with both.  Then I'll make a decision for purchase.  I'll either hate chopping it up without the audio support or I won't. I can't figure out how to scrub at all with Camtasia.  I'm going to google the keyboard shortcuts real quick.  Have a good one.
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The first time I used Premier I had to take a course to figure it out...lol...so yes, I agree with you on how nice and easy the tools are in Camtasia.
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I just wanted to say that your suggestion for audio scrubbing is a good one, and you aren't missing anything- it is not a feature Camtasia has right now.
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I just want to say that after playing around more, I decided to buy Camtasia. There's lots of great stuff in there.