Audio ducking (reduce vol of music during narration)

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Please, please, pretty please add audio ducking (reduce vol of music during narration) to future release of Camtasia :)
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Hello K.G. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish. Can you give some more details? If you are playing the music while recording your narration and what you here then you should be able to lower the volume of the music playing in Windows Media Player or whatever software you are using to play the music while recording your video. I hope this gives you some ideas and if you can give more specific information maybe I can share some more ideas with you on how to accomplish this task. Thanks for posting and have a great day!
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I use 3 audio tracks within Camtasia:
Audio 1 - for mouse clicks
Audio 2 - for narration
Audio 3 - for background music

I manually reduce volume on audio track 3 when there is narration on audio track 2. This can be rather time consuming task.

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I was exactly looking for this feature. I've notice this topic was opened over a year now.
Was this implemented yet?
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It has not been implemented, but I'd love to be able to do this too.

Its not that hard from a technical point of view. It could be added as a compressor in the musical business. A compressor basically compresses audio depending on different settings. If you have 2 audio signals, you can side-chain compress so one mutes the other.

I bet it is much easier to program a detection algoritm. I guess the tricky part is doing the GUI. So for that, I would create 2 additional audio track types. One: Background audio and one Foreground Audio. Background audio automatically gets muted when there is something played in the foreground audio channel.
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This is a really important audio feature to have in the tool. In the past I've mixed my audio tracks externally in audacity and then imported them into Camtasia, but that is a lot of extra work for me.
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Walter,
In Audacity did you use the 'Effects > Auto Duck' function and if so were there issues with it that could be a problem for others. I have just finished experimenting with it and found it quite ameniable, although I have a bit of experience with various audio applications for music recording. As part of the experiment I imported the results to Camtasia and grouped the audio tracks. Found them easy to edit as a group like that too.
Just a thought...
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Yepp, plus one for this suggestion. I'm currently always editing my background music track manually in Camtasia which is rather tedious:



Please, this should definitively get implemented into Camtasia to happen automatically (with tracks providing an option to designate any other track to serve as a Master track, having the Master track's audio clips' volume control the Slave track's audio clips' volume. Add lead-in decay time (1), pre/post padding time (2/4), ducking audio level (3) and release time (5) parameters to that setting.)



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Plus:

Ducking should not only control audio volume but also audio quality. Currently, even softened background music still hampers understanding the talkover voice.

So, in addition to volume leveling, audio Ducking should come along with a low-pass (or band-pass) filter, so the softened background music will also get dulled, thus resulting in the background music interfering less with the talkover voice.


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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
autoducking.


Hello,
I have just bought Camtasia because of the ease of screen capture and because I ended up doing a whole video with live takes with Camtasia.
It has everything I need, except for autoducking. I have seen this discussed, and it would be a very important feature for me. I do mostly technical videos, with a background music and occasional speeches.
I should add that I noticed a recommendation for DubIt. I have not yet checked this out. Maybe it has autoducking... :-)

thanks!
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Thank you for the suggestion! Please give this thread a "me too" so our developers can see the interest level in this idea.
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Me too Jessie. I think it would be a nice feature but I can somewhat accomplish this with the Windows System Audio for Recording and when I use my mixer board I can set the audio higher or lower to do this but the Auto Ducking feature would make it easier. Count me in for this possible feature and future upgrade.
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*gg* Sorry for being wise here: I guess, Jessie was suggesting to click the [me too!] button at the upper right corner of this thread. She was not suggesting to put it into words here :)
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Axel I know what she was suggesting. I have been in this game for awhile but wanted to share what was going on for me and how I accomplish this task. Thanks for your wise input though. Have a great day.

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Screenflow has it.  When will this be added to Camtasia?
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I honestly can't believe this isn't a feature yet... Please develop this! I will be using Camtasia for the initial edits of my video, exporting it, importing it to iMovie, and doing voice overs there with music because it is way too tedious to adjust the volume. If iMovie had better call out solutions, I wouldn't bother with Camtasia at all because of this issue.
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TechSmith can you shed any information on this request as if it might be a possibility that would come in handy and be a great addition to the software. Let us know please and thank you. Have a great day.night. Hope to hear back soon.
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Would love to see it too!  Once manually adjusting music volume, any changes to video / images, which alters the length of a single item throws off everything and the volume must be reset and re-done "ducked" (???) for the voice-overs.
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Thank you for adding your input for this idea! We will update this thread if there are any changes in status.
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When people are asking for recommendations whether to use Camtasia or Screenflow, I will now tell them to use Screenflow. This series does a good comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJApCCecHW0

It's been 4 years since this useful feature was asked for, and nothing has come of it. LAME!
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Hi brentlabasan,

I'm sorry the feature you would like has not yet been implemented.

However, I wanted to step in here to try and manage some expectations. While this is an open forum that allows people to make feature requests, there is no guarantee that a feature suggestion will make it onto the product backlog or features list. So, while it has been over 3 years since this post was created, there should never be an expectation that someone's idea will be implemented.

While TechSmith employee's do read these posts and make note of peoples' suggestions, the ideas here in Get Satisfaction are just one avenue of information out of many we use to develop features in our software.

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It would really be a nice feature.  i would use it with all of my videos.  I'm finding myself looking at screenflow again since they seem to be coming out with more development activity.  Not sure why Camtasia takes so long to implement things.  They really are suffering on the audio front.  No ducking and not enough resolution on the audio track to knock out things manually.  I'm hoping they start listening to the requests that have been asked for years...
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Yes, Screenflow looks much better than Camtasia for many reasons, this included.
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It's not available for Windows, though. :(
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Yes, Audio Ducking is sorely needed, without it, we have to take a manual approach. The concept is simple from a programming perspective. Two Audio sources 1) Music 2) Narration. Allow the narration input to compress the music signal configured by the user as a percentage (in db). When Narration goes up, music goes down.
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Hey there, i know I'm 5 years late to the question but there is a way to reduce the volume of music in the background whilst narrating. When you add the music to the track, click on properties then you should see this. Adjust the gain, which is basically adjusting the volume of the music. Hope this helps!
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Auto-Audio ducking is actually allowing another audio track’s audio volume to automatically lower the volume of another. Eg. a music track — when the mic audio is present the music track’s volume level drops... then comes back up after a slight delay when the mic volume goes down.
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Given the neck breaking speed of open source projects on GitHub, Camtasia Studio truely is a lame duck (https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/development-stalled-the-end-of-camtasia-studio).

I had a short analysis on the modules and it appears to be quite well designed, yet it's a simple WPF project. If TechSmith would choose to go Open Source on GitHub, perhaps we might have had all of the desired features and bug fixes years ago already.
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Sorry!!
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Asking for this feature as well. Essential for using background music while narrating.