Better video compression for SnagIt video recording, I beg you!

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Please please please work on the video sizes for SnagIt video captures. I use this feature so much, and for something that is specifically designed for providing support, the video sizes are really large. Every time I capture my screen with SnagIt I have to send the video through a compressor first before I send it on to my client.

For example, I just recorded a *30 second* clip of my screen (1920x1080) and the file size was ~12mb. Sure, this isn't the end of the world, but if I have to send a 2 minute instructional clip I can no longer attach it to an e-mail directly because it's too large. But, I can send it through Miro or any other MP4 compressor and that exact same file is 1.5mb. So much more suited for e-mail or chat attachments, with no perceived loss of quality.

I would absolutely love it if SnagIt's recorded video size was already decent and didn't require this extra step every time.
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Jack Fruh, Champion

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Mike, what preset are you using in Miro, I'd love to try it out.
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Hiya Jack - just the standard "MP4" format/preset in Miro (on Mac, but similar results on Windows).
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Hi Mike, I was able to get the same size from Camtasia as I am getting from Miro, by changing a few settings.

I want to share how I came about this so you can apply judgement if needed to future exports....

There is a great tool on the app store called "MediaInfo" I think it's a dollar and they update it frequently.
I have this tool, it's indispensable if you're doing any kind of video/audio work.

Media info will tell you a lot about a media file, so what I did was compare.

1) I recorded about 1 minute of me viewing a website and some video in camtasia
1a) my recording settings are set to record at 15 Frames per second 
2) I exported using the share menu from camtasia, used the "Export to MP4" and set the export frame rate to 15 and left the data rate set to "automatic"  Since my screen has a  higher resolution than 1920x1080, I asked Camtasia to resize during export. I exported without audio.
3) I dragged this file into Miro and did a convert to mp4
4) checked the results:
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RESULTS:
Camtasia export was 33.5 MB
Miro was 5.2

NEXT STEP:
I opened both in Media info so I could inspect things like codec used, resolution, frames per second and bit rate. 
I was looking for things that would cause a massive difference in size.

WHAT I OBSERVED:
The orignal camtasia file had been encoded at 4719 kbps
The miro file had been encoded at 739kbps

EXPERIMENT:
With camtasia still opened from before, I re-exported the same clip, 
this time, In the export dialog, I set the bit rate to custom and set it to 739 kbps

RESULTS:
Camtasia produced a file that was nearly identical as that produce via Miro:
The left file is the original export, the middle file is Miro's re-compression of the file on the left.
The right file is a straight export from Camtasia with the settings used above.


SUMMARY:
If desired, Camtasia has the capabilities of producing highly compressed files directly.
It should not be necessary to re-compress the files with Miro if settings such as the above are used.
Using Mediainfo is a great way to confirm results and ensure the resolution and framerate are coming out as expected, regardless of what tool you use to compress.

OTHER TIPS FOR SMALL VIDEO:
In Camtasia preferences, under the recording tab, you can set the Frames per second for recording.
10-15 is more than enough for most "explainer videos".
When you export be sure to match the frame rate (I've had bad luck with the auto setting, be sure to select the frame rate from the drop down. 

I hope this helps save you some time on your next export!
- Jack
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Hi Jack,

I appreciate the time you put into comparing the files and looking into this, but this post is specifically for SnagIt, as noted in the title and issue itself. Unfortanately, unless I'm missing it completely, we don't have the same video options (at least not on Mac) that Camtasia has.

It would be nice if we were given the option or toggle to save the videos at that lower bitrate though, since there's no real perceivable loss in quality and it's much more practical for sending the video off to clients (what SnagIt was made for). I love the program and I'll continue using it, but there's an extra step right now for every single video (Miro) that seems like it shouldn't be needed and eats up a lot of time. :-)
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I second Mike's original request for more compression without too much loss in quality when saving SnagIt screen videos. Interested in your solution with miro- will check into that! Thanks
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Yep, highly recommend Miro (http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/). Free, super simple to use, and the output with a lower bitrate has no perceivable loss in quality (1080p capture of a desktop with text). Just wish the option to capture at the lower bitrate was an option in SnagIt so the extra step wasn't necessary!