Callout Text Box Needs to be Bigger or Adjustable

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This is serious. It's hard to work in this small box. I do video tutorials and regularly need to insert text. Working in this tiny box is difficult. I've had situations where I thought I highlighted some text and changed it, but actually missed a couple of letters that had broken onto a separate line.

Trying to work on multiple sentences is a nightmare.

Look at all the wasted space when the playback window is undocked.


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Thanks for the suggestion!  Just to make sure I understand, you are suggesting that the actual box where you edit the text be of an adjustable size, not the actual callout itself? 
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Correct. The area where the text is put in and edited.
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Thank you!  Based on the example you shared, I can see why that would be helpful. 
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I would have to agree and think that is a great suggestion. I +1 this idea. Thanks for posting Oz.
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my workaround for this limitation is to first type my callout text into Notepad, then copy/paste into the callout UI text box
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Rick Stone

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Hi Jennifer

I'm not sure how others feel, but what would be VERY nice would be to simply allow the user to double-click the callout directly inside the editor and adjust the text. Perhaps by allowing a right-click to adjust the font size larger or smaller. Or maybe rolling the mouse wheel.

For me, it's cumbersome to adjust the font size in the present area, then note how it looks over in the preview.

Although in playing with this I note that if I press and hold the Ctrl key as I roll the mouse wheel, it does adjust the zoom setting in the dialog. This allows for seeing more text in the small editor without changing the actual size in the callout.

Cheers... Rick :)
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oooo that is a handy tip! Thanks!
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Oz du Soleil

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Double-clicking the callout and making edits inside it does sound like a great idea.
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Agreed. The callout text box is way too small when you're dealing with large fonts. Sorry about that :/ We can do better, but it's more difficult than it would appear on the surface.

Many years ago, we tried to do in-place editing of callouts on the canvas. There were some implementation challenges that made this approach buggy, such as artifacts from editing the text that stuck to your video, and "air space" issues where the current frame would sometimes paint over the top of the text as you were trying to edit it. We spent a fair amount of time on this approach, but never got it working well enough to release it this way, so we backed out of it.

The edit box on the left side in CS 8.x (and in many earlier versions too) is actually a Rich Edit text box, which is essentially the same as what is used in WordPad, a utility that ships with Windows. This control is actually quite advanced, with support for multiple languages, fonts, colors, bold, italics, keyboard and mouse selection, copy/paste support, etc. The challenge was getting the text to draw correctly inside of an image or vector shape. We were able to solve those problems, which enabled all of this text to be edited in one spot, and then separately rendered inside of a callout shape. We iterated on this, fixed bugs, added new styles, shapes, drop shadows, etc. and that's what you see today in version 8.6.0.

We will continue to improve callouts, and your feedback is appreciated, and duly noted. In the meantime, here are some tips for working with large fonts in the Callouts tab in CS 8.x (and earlier):
1. Run WordPad. Format your text there. Copy/Paste from WordPad into the rich text box in the Callouts tab. The font size, color, bold, italics, etc. should be retained when you do the paste. It doesn't work for all symbols. If it doesn't, try #2.
2. Run NotePad. Type your text there. Copy/Paste from Notepad into the rich text box in the Callouts tab. Since Notepad has no font information, when you paste the text in, it will not change the font you have selected.
3. To clear all the callout text, click inside the rich text box in the Callouts tab, use Ctrl + A to select all the text, and press Back Space or Delete key to clear the text.
4. To format all the callout text, click inside the rich text box in the Callouts tab, use Ctrl + A to select all the text, then change the font, font size, or any other property.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the explanation and workarounds Dave.
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+1 to this! I just had to put together a quick tutorial video, but I was in a noisy location where I couldn't record audio, so I used the callout feature to explain the steps instead. Only after I'd typed all the input text did I realize that Camtasia doesn't auto-fit text into the callout shapes, so almost all of my callout text was incomplete in the previews. Luckily I noticed this, and was able to edit each text box to make the font smaller before uploading the tutorial, but it would have been better if the text had resized in the callout shapes automatically (a la Adobe Acrobat fields or PowerPoint text boxes). Or, as this contributor suggests, have the text window itself be resizable and/or plainly show you how much is actually fitting into the shape as you are typing.
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This interface is getting unworkable, and I know this isn't going to be fixed by the weekend. But look:

With 4 tracks and a large font, I'm spending a lot of time sliding that middle section up and down in order to see and have room to work.

I've got 2 monitors. If I could undock more Camtasia pieces that would help make a more efficient workspace.


 
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Personally, I long for an ability to easily minimize the height of each track. Hopefully you realize you are able to click between the tracks to make them shorter.



Cheers... Rick :)
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Yes, that's just one more adjustment to make. The interface is too cramped for all the moving pieces. I'm learning my way around and using more features, and constantly readjusting the size of things.
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Hi Everyone!

We want to thank you for your patience while we worked to improve your Callout editing experience. We are pleased to announce that we have just released our newest, most powerful version of Camtasia yet. You can now do your Callout editing right in the Callout itself.

You can buy Camtasia here or download the trial here.

Please feel free to post your feedback and feature requests here in our Community forums and remember, all technical support-related inquiries should be directed to our dedicated Technical Support team at https://support.techsmith.com/

 

Thanks again!

Scott Schmerer

Senior Software Engineer, Camtasia Windows

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HALLELUJAH! I'm looking forward to this!