Camtasia 9 Won't let me add a cursor effect.

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The file allowed the effect just fine. I added a second video file, then I could not add the cursor effect. I created a new file and tried to add the effect with a new video and the problem persisted. I tried to repair the program, restarted, and I still can't add the effect. 
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if you captured using Recorder saving to trec file format, you should be able to add cursor effects

be sure the target clip is selected on timeline before adding the cursor effects

maybe do a short screencast showing what issue you're seeing; host on screencast.com
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I would like to add a feature request to allow one to add a cursor effect to a video (e.g. AVI) on the Timeline, not just to a .TREC. (I know you can take your .AVI, play it while recording the screen to create the .TREC, then place the .TREC on the timeline, but that is a lot more work).
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Hi Charles,

You can add cursor effects to AVI recordings using the recorder.
The difference is that the effects are applied during the recording process and burned into the video.So, the effects and permanent and cannot be changed.

The trec recordings save the cursor information in a separate file. It's the information contained within it that allows Camtasia to change those effects.

Regards,Joe

Image is Camtasia 8's toolbar but Cam 9 works the same way.
Those options  only become available after switching the recording capture preference to avi.

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I am having the same issue with this... I just changed my recording to .AVI and I see the options but can't seem to figure out how to save or apply the effects. What am I missing here? Clicking "OK" does not seem to add the effects - is there another step to this?

Nadia
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I ran some tests with Camtasia 8 and 9.
Camtasia 8 seems to be having difficulties on my Windows 10 Anniversary Edition computer.Sometimes clicks display properly and sometimes they display as a small dot. Despite the fact that I have the cursors click "Ring size" set to the largest setting.
  

Camtasia 9 works but I find the behavior to be erratic.I don't record cursor effects using AVI so I don't know how well they behave normally. My thought is that the click effects have performance issues.I would not be pleased with the way they behave in the least.
I would place the duration of the click ring effect in Cam 9 at 1/2 second.That's to fast in my opinion.
In Cam 8 it's even faster at times.




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Regards, Joe

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I'll do that, thanks Joe for the quick response.
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Anyone know why the heck you can't add cursor effects after the fact on .AVI like you can on .TREC? I keep forgetting this is the case and then don't get the effects at all.  Is it a bug or just annoying? 
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cursors are burned into an AVI as part of the video stream capture

in a trec, which is a container for multiple types of capture data, cursor info is a separate stream which can be affected using cursor effects in the Camtasia editor
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ugh ok. makes sense, just annoying when you forget before doing the recording :( thanks.
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just curious ... why record as AVI?
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well it was a trial honestly... I have been having audio issues and I wanted to try AVI instead of TREC because for some reason it allows more flexibility with the recorder audio settings. Although perhaps this is something else I have not understood correctly. Using TREC I notice that the audio settings are disabled/fixed whereas using AVI I have more flexibility. I wanted to try it out, so recorded 3 videos using AVI to compare and see if it really did anything. BUT...of course I forgot to enable the captions ahead of time, as I am more accustomed to the interface/functionality using the TREC file types. 
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OK; thanks for the explanation

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I am so frustrated with Camtasia.  I am trying to add a cursor effect and it won't let me.  It has something to do with my video file being a mp4, and it should be a trec, but I can't figure out how to get a trec.  It just seems incompetent that I can't use a cursor effect -- why doesn't it create a trec for me and add the cursor effect?
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Camtasia cannot create a  .trec from an existing mp4.

You have to record your screen using the  .trec format.

The Camtasia recorder records and saves to .trec by default.
The Cursors Location/Clicks/ Is the pointer currently a cursor,a hand, a flashing text cursor?
All of that information is saved separately.
Without it, theres nothing for the program to work with.

Regards,Joe
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to expand upon what Joe has offered ...

you can always add cursor effects, after-the-fact, if you apply Library assets that animate the desired effects

this brief example shows a video, where cursor effects were not captured, in a before-after sequence, where Library assets were used to superimpose the missing effects;  in this case, left/right mouse click rings

the Library assets were created from live captures of the effects, saved into Library with a transparent background via remove-a-color

Example - Mouse Clicks Added After The Fact 2020-04-25
https://www.screencast.com/t/cE6OqL5oFt9

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Thanks for your replies.  To clarify what I need to do in order to add cursor effects:
1. I create my project in Camtasia by importing videos and doing voice narration
2. I export it as a .mp4
3. I play it using windows player and simultaneously record it with Camtasia and save it as a .trec
4. I create a new project and import the saved .trec file
5. I add cursor effects
6. I export it as a new .mp4

This compares to what I want to do which is:
1. I create my project in Camtasia by importing videos and doing voice narration
2. Add cursor effects
3. I export it as a .mp4

Not only is the current method very tedious, when I replay my video for recording by Camtasia, the video player adds various play-button annotations which I do not want in my video, and to get rid of those adds an additional level of difficulty. 

Here is what Camtasia could do: create a tool that converts .mp4 and .avi videos into .trec format by playing them off-screen, recording them and saving them.  The tool could do this for a whole folder of videos.  Then my first step would be to import .trec files rather than .mp4 files into my project. 

The difficulty for me to do something that should be simple leaves a poor impression of Camtasia.  Actually, what is further annoying is that I created the initial mp4 videos with SnagIt, and it did not suggest to me to save in .trec format, and I don't know if it could have.


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first, if you intend to re-capture a playing MP4, do so in the Camtasia canvas that has been detached and full screen-ed

I assume you intend to interact with the playing MP4 using the mouse?

then capturing a trec and using that trec in a project should work
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Ah, that is a helpful note -- thanks.  So the work flow is now:
1. I create my project in Camtasia by importing videos and doing voice narration
2. Playback in a detached Camtasia canvas and simultaneously record it (a bit tricky)
3. Use the recorded trec to replace the video track of my project
4. I add cursor effects
5. I export it as a new .mp4

It's certainly nice not to go through an intermediate mp4.

Now I confirmed I can drag a cursor effect onto my new video track and see its properties.  However, when I start playing the video in the Camtasia editor and hover my cursor over it, there are no cursor effects; I just see a 4-way icon that moves my screen.  I am reasonably competent and editing things, but it boggles my mind how unintuitive the software is.  How can I start adding cursor effect?
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In my opinion.
You should abandon the old recordings. You won't be able to record a mp4 playing and match the cursor movements with your cursor.
You'll end up with a recording of 2 separate cursors behaving differently.

Start over from scratch is my advice.
Record yourself using the computer with the Camtasia recorder.
Edit and produce that.

Regards,Joe
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as I assumed from the OP's posts, that the original videos did not contain cursor images, and that he intended to interact with the playing MP4 to add in whatever mouse movements he desired ...

once you've re-captured as a trec, and you've used the mouse during that capture, then, with the new trec on timeline, and with it selected, add whatever cursor effects from the cursor effects tool [left side]; their properties will show on right panel; set as desired

the applied cursor effects will show in the canvas view, and should display as timeline is played
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Ah, I think I get it now -- while I am recording using Camtasia, I should use my mouse to click on things (even though I don't see the effects).  Then after-the-fact I can change the effect those cursor movements make with the method above. 

I guess that will work -- I will try it.  Figuring that out from the menus would be very hard.

Here is a much simpler solution: why not have cursor-like effects that can be added as additional tracks?  That is what I thought the cursor effects were.
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I see what your saying now. I read things over again.

It seems he may have recorded some videos with SnagIt and had "Capture Cursor" disabled.

I stand by opinion, odds are its less complicated to re-record the sessions with Camtasia's recorder from the get-go.
When you record a video playing in a media player.
Camtasia tends to drop a lot frames.

If you want the power of Camtasia, use its recorder.
Not SnagIt's.
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Hey, DM
Looks like I was responding in another browser about the same time as you.

If it isn't to difficult, I suggest you never use SnagIt recorder if you think your going to edit it in Camtasia.
If your going to invest the time to watch and re-record your original video. Then further edit that.
It seem like it would be easier to just start over. If its an option.
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Hi Joe and Kayakman,

Thanks for all your pointers.  So the solution is to record my video using Camtasia, as that records the cursor locations.  Then that means I need to be doing my cursor annotation when I'm initially recording the video, even though I can't see what the annotations look like, and I can't change the cursor after the fact.  I guess that is doable, but usually I like to do the annotation as a post-processing step, in which I might change when and where I highlight.  Guess that is not possible with Camtasia cursors.

DM
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capturing to trec using Camtasia Recorder will capture the cursor movements

when that trec is on the timeline in a project, you can then add cursor effects

you do not add cursor effects during the capture