Camtasia Suggestion - Remove Black Bars

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So today found me playing with Microsoft Photos and learning what it was all about.

It's rather simplistic and allows inexperienced users to create videos from different media. And in looking at the different features of it, I saw a feature that I feel could really be helpful for many Camtasia users and make support a bit easier.

The feature allows a user to click a button to "Remove Black Bars".



Basically what it does is to scale up the media so it completely fills the canvas.

I was thinking about how many times we have seen users pop into the GetSat forums here to ask about how to deal with Letterboxing or Pillarboxing.

What would seem awesome would be to right-click media on the canvas and see this listed as an option alongside the "Scale to fit" option.
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Ditto That!  I hate having to go back and get rid of those! Great idea!

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I like it and voted for it on the forum page.
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Scaling up media simply to make it fit?

Camtasia can already do this. Just grab the handles and resize the media till it fills the screen. Or use the properties panel and scale the media upward. And while your at it, reposition it so it looks better.

 Windows Photo has been around for a few years.Its a Windows 10 app. I'd hoped it would be a good free alternative to SnagIt's  video trimmer.Its not {:>(

Take this photo as an example.With black bars.


Then apply Remove Black Bars.


Her heads chopped off. If thats what your after, great.
Its worse or better dependent upon the media in question.

If you want to scale up media in this way. You should probably do it manually.
Then reposition to taste.

Auto chop my head off?
Auto chop off words/windows, backgrounds, etc.

I'm not shooting down the idea. I'm just pointing out what occurs.
If this works for you. Vote {:>)

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I'll like new ideas even when I realize there will be limitations. I don't think anyone would want the feature to be applied automatically or without the ability to reposition the movie. I think it would be nice to resize to the correct dimensions without worrying about grabbing handles to do it. Actually, I'll probably always want to reposition for best composition.
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Totally agree here. And I would operate the same way.

I've had to do this on many occasions using Camtasia. I'm not sure I've ever encountered a situation where I'm just totally unable to increase the overall size and still cut off a head or whatever.
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Fantastic idea, Rick. I think my only concern would be a reduced picture quality as we scale the video up past its original quality. Perhaps a pop-up warning could suffice?  

 
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Yep, a pop up warning about content with perhaps a tip about repositioning for the best effect.

Maybe I'm just too old and my eyes aren't the greatest, but it seems to me that when it comes to video, you really have to scale an awful lot to impair the video quality. :)

Then again, I'm also in that camp that notices zero difference in playing a compressed MP3 vs an uncompressed WAV for music. Both tracks sound the same to me. Maybe I just played my guitar too loudly when I was a teen! LOL
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perhaps I'm missing something here ...

but it's not possible to remove black bars unless the media is same dimensions [aspect, zoomed?] as canvas?

perhaps try right-clicking media, then use "s" shortcut key?  that should scale it to fit the canvas
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Indeed, we already have the scale to fit option. What this would do is scale the media beyond the "fit" option so it "fits" the remaining empty space. 

That could well mean that some of the media would be outside the canvas area.



It would then be up to the user to decide how best to deal with things if what they intended to show was outside the canvas.
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Why not just use the scale in the properties panel?  Or drag out a corner until the media fits that area you want? In your example, the media is centered in the canvas and scaling up the media to get rid of the black bars would do what you expect in your sample images above.  For this one example, the you can drag the corner of the media while holding the Cmd key and the media will scale around the center. 
If the media is not in the center of the canvas, what would you expect the Remove Black Bars option to do? In this case, if you don't want to move the position of the media, you may have to scale it up a lot to cover the canvas.  Is that the desired behavior? 
It is so easy to scale and position a media currently, that I am wondering what this option really buys you?
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It buys you a centrally positioned & re-scaled image/media.

If you wanted to move/re-compose the example above. To the left of right, you would have to re-scale once again.

If you wanted to see Jesus's image only. Without any text, you would have to re-scale larger once again.

It buys you very little.
Unless you want users to one click their way into a "What you see is what you get" scenario.

Aside from that? 
I played around with that feature in Windows Photos long ago.I didn't care for it.

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Sure, it's a simple thing. For you. And for me. And for many of us that use Camtasia on a regular basis.

But I note that there are often questions here in the GetSat forum where users seem to be oblivious to the fact this can be done. So my thought was that if Camtasia could automate this process, it might go a way toward helping these folks.

It would be interesting to see how many posts that have been made where folks are complaining that they created their video only to have black bars appear in that final video. So it seemed to me that this might be a helpful solution to offer.
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Or it may just spin off new issues.  Why is my media being cut off?  - or - why is my media blurry?  Will the user know they can reposition the scaled media?  Note that I'm not trying to shut down the idea, I just need to get my head wrapped around how useful it would be.  If the media is off center, would you expect the option to center the media and then scale up to fit?
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Exactly, its wrought with problems a amateur wouldn't understand or deal with well.
I didn't want come across negative either.But you nailed it. {:>)
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It seems to me that anything you do is going to be fraught with potential issues.

Additionally, it seems that the "Scale to fit" that currently exists would be subject to the same questions. Yet we have it in place. I see this as being a bit of an extension on that.