Camtasia 8 Callout dimensions gone

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Why were the callout dimension boxes removed in Camtasia 8? They made it easy to define the dimensions of an arrow or other object for consistency between projects.
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Posted 7 years ago

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JP

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I agree! I also don't understand the reason why this would ever be removed anyway :-\. It would also be helpful to define the X and Y axis locations.
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Wendy Hunter

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I really miss being able to configure the X and Y axis locations directly. Why was this removed? It is a lot harder to precisely position a callout now.
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Hi All,

While this is a different topic from the original post, I just wanted to chime in and let you know that can indeed adjust the X and Y coordinates of any media, including callouts.

To do this, click on the callout on the timeline to select it, and then change tabs to the Visual Properties tab. There you will find the settings you are looking for. As a side note, that tab also has a scale slider, which may help to maintain size consistency as well - but admittedly it does not display the actual pixel dimensions of the callout.

Thanks for posting, we appreciate the feedback.
-Josh
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Mal Reynolds

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The scale doesn't really maintain size consistency; you can have two shapes of exactly the same type but which have vastly different sizes, and both of them will happily show "100%". Even if you start with a collection of standard sized objects and use the scale function from there you still have the problem that it will scale both height and width; you can't set them separately.
The ability to explicitly set the size of the callout is definitely a needed one.
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Joe Morgan

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The size of callouts can be set by using the "Visual Properties"  Under the visual properties tab.
It sounds like you are looking at the zoom editors window under the Zoom & Pan tab.
See Image below, click to enlarge.

You can also right click a callout in the timeline and select, copy visual properties. Then select another callout and right click, Paste visual properties. You don't need to open any tab to do that and it will give you an exact match fast.
You can also select multiple callouts at the same time and do the same thing.

Regards, Joe

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Mal Reynolds

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I wasn't looking at zoom and pan at all. The dialog above is exactly what I was looking at, and it just doesn't do what's needed. You can have two filled rectangles, one of which covers half the screen and one of which covers 20 pixels across and they'll both cheerfully tell you that they are at 100%. Which they may well be, depending on how they were inserted.

I'll grant you that the Paste Visual Properties suggestion will sometimes work, at least if you have two call-outs of the same type which were both inserted from the Callouts tab rather than a Library (especially a library that was created by someone else). Except that the visual properties that are copied include the X and Y positions, meaning that even if you DID paste the visual properties over to try to match the size you then need to rearrange everything since you'll seldom want the callouts to be sitting on top of each other.

What we need, therefore, is not just position entry and rotation entry but also height and width entry. I wouldn't have thought that it was a horrendously complex thing to implement.

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Joe Morgan

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Wow, excuse the heck out of me. That's insanely screwed up, I'm actually a little shocked.
I use a lot of different video editing programs and I was sure dimensions were available.
It's not an excuse but Camtasia callouts have about as much sophistication as a 4th. grader with crayons. Aside from spotlight , I never really use them.

  Sorry I wasted your time. Joe
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Mal Reynolds

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No, you didn't waste my time, or anyone else's; it's useful for people to know about the pasting of the Visual Properties. It does work well enough with newly inserted callouts. However I try to avoid those because I'm trying to keep my videos consistent in "look and feel" so I've been using library ones which are preconfigured with standard colours, fonts and effects rather than recreating everything from scratch every time. The problem comes in when there's more than one person working on it and you combine library items, as above.

I definitely take your point about the limitations of the callouts; I'm not sure I'd be QUITE as harsh about them because when they do work they work very well, but you're right, they're certainly not the height of sophistication. There are quite a few threads that I've seen in the last few months with suggestions for enhancements to them. Techsmith seems to be one of the more receptive companies to consumer ideas so I'm hoping that some of them (including this one) make their way into future releases.
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at present, the library [via a libzip shared between various users] is the best solution

but retaining object size and position in library assets requires grouping where one [transparent] object is the same dimensions as the video editing dimensions, and is subject to project editing dimensions

this is how I do it ...

http://cookbookplus.com/Temp/TechSmith/HowTo/MakeAssetsWithPositionRetained/MakeAssetsWithPositionRe...

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