Camtasia 8 file rendered to a wmv file. The wmv file is gigantic..........

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I created 4 videos in Camtasia 8 and rendered them to a wmv file. The smallest size in Camtasia is rendering to a significantly larger wmv size than the other three. Please advise..............
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Compare that to rendering the same file to mp4.
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I need to have it in wmv


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Why? mp4 will play in the Windows Media Player.
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Unfortunately, due to the set up for our company, we must use wmv


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Well with the WMV you are using a lossless codec which will make a bigger file size unfortunately. I would have to agree with Richard that an mp4 would be smaller but, if you cannot use that then you might want to try and HandBrake which is a free software application for compressing video files. The link is below:

http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php

However, you will want to keep in mind that it will compress your video size to a smaller size but sometimes quality and audio can suffer. I have used this method before and had no problems at all. This is just a suggestion for you to give a try and see if it might work for what you want to do. Let us know and thanks for posting.

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I will try your suggestion, but I'm still confused in general in how my smallest Camtasia 8 file is turning into my largest (twice the other files) wmv file.......


Thanks again for the suggestion, I'll let you know how it works.

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Are you using the settings Highlighted in Blue in the Image below?

I ran a test out of my own curiosity.
I took a 1080p video and trimmed it down to 1 min.
I rendered it using the Camtasia Studio Best Quality. Final Render size----- 60.9 MB.
I rendered it using the CS Camera and video --------------------------------------203.0 MB
I rendered  a MP4 at 50% quality and ended up with ----------------------------- 32.0 MB
Uncompressed AVI--------------------------------------------------------------------------10.4 GB
TechSmith codec 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------765.0 MB

I even ran the same video through Adobe Premiere Pro CS6. -------WMV------59.6 MB

MAGIX Movie Pro-----------------------------------------------------------------------------63.5 MB
                                                                      
Cyber link Power Director------------------------------------------------------------------73.0 MB

Corel Video Studio-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 100.0 MB

Conclusion,  
   Load a 1080p 29.97 fps video into Camtasia as a test. Trim it's length to exactly 1 minuet. Produce it with the settings in the image below and see if you come in around 60MB. If you do, you don't have a problem.

Adobe Premiere Pro is about as good as it gets for rendered video size.
Camtasia is Right There as well.

MAGIX Movie Pro did better than I expected.

Cyber Link did worse than I expected.

Corel has always been a Hard Drive Hog. No surprise there.

What really surprised me was Window Movie Maker for WIn8 has no option I could find to allow saving in wmv. When I saved it for HD playback it rendered it in MP4 and it's file size was 160MB. That gave me a laugh.


I look into things like this as a Hobby. I enjoy doing the research and  passing along my findings. I hope this gives you some insight into where you stand.
An MP4 at 50% Quality is not that great. That's why it's only 32 MB.
A First Class H 264 quality MP4 rendered with Adobe P. Pro came in at 226MB.

Regards, Joe



 
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Thank you for the reply.  I'm still trying to figure this out and need to make it work for my business.  Here is the situation again, hopefully this triggers some additional response(s). 

I imported 4 different videos into 4 separate Camtasia 8 projects (one video per project).  I added some simulations and saved each of the projects as such:

  1. Project 1     Time duration = 3:32     Size = 440KB
  2. Project 2     Time duration = 4:48     Size = 638KB
  3. Project 3     Time duration = 2:52     Size = 506KB
  4. Project 4     Time duration = 3:42     Size = 639KB

When I render it to a wmv file, the sizes change to

  1. Project 1     Time duration = 3:32     Size = 120,363KB
  2. Project 2     Time duration = 4:48     Size = 41,639KB
  3. Project 3     Time duration = 2:52     Size = 15,720KB
  4. Project 4     Time duration = 3:42     Size = 14,964KB

Why would Project 1 be so large compared to the others?



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If you are rendering in the codec shown in the Image I attached then I would contact Tech Support.

This is a free service!

Just fill out a SUPPORT TICKET at.

 https://support.techsmith.com/anonymous_requests/new

 Or you could Give the Tech Support Team a call at 888.750.0686 (or +1.517.381.2300 ext. 771 internationally)--they are available from 8 am - 7 pm EST.

 

 Regards, Joe...    {:> )


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Thank you, Joe, I will contact them before the end of the day, if anyone else has any input, please share........Thank you.........Dave


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One other thing to consider is if you added any transitions, callouts, etc., this will increase the size of the video.  

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The video content will also make a very large difference.  If Project 1 contains a video with lots of motion in it, compared with the videos in the other projects, then you are going to get a much larger video when you produce.

The size of the projects does not include the size of videos in the projects.  How large is the video you are using in Project 1 compared to the videos used in the other projects?
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Here are the mp4 videos which are in each of the projects

Project 1 Video Size     120,021KB

Project 2 Video Size     164,660KB

Project 3 Video Size     97,560KB

Project 4 Video Size     94,470KB

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I just went into the Project 1 Camtasia 8 Project and removed 6 callouts and the wmv rendered to even a greater size from 120,363KB to 126,286KB.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

 

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I took out all of the animations, call outs etc and rendered it to a wmv and the size went up to 206,888KB.........how and why is this possible, it's totally going backwards from what I would expect......this is still for Project 1

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