Camtasia 8 - Need more resolution in the maximum zoom for audio editing.

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Camtasia 8.0.1 - Need more resolution in the maximum zoom for audio editing. We have been using version 7 for a while and I just downloaded ver 8 to tryout on a project. It took me a bit to get used to the new mouse and automation, bar but I degress. The one real problem that I had was not having enough resoultion in the time line when fully zoomed to allow easy audio editing. Just at the point I wanted to place my in-point or out-point it jumps to the next time slice.

Please give us more resoution.



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Dave O'Rourke, Senior Software Engineer

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Hi Don,

First off, thanks for the screenshots. All editing on the timeline is done at 30fps. So at the maximum zoom, each time slice is 1/30th of a second. In your top screenshot, it looks like you have 2 time slices selected. I think what may be happening is that the timeline snapping feature is kicking in. A vertical yellow line shows up when snapping is active.

If you hold the Ctrl key during the drag, it will temporarily toggle the snapping feature, which will let you select down to 1/30th of a second. If you prefer to turn timeline snapping off, you can do this with the View > Timeline Snapping menu. Note that you can turn snapping off, and then toggle it back on selectively by holding the Ctrl key during the drag.

Hope this helps.
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Hi Dro
Thanks for the quick reply. I did a little more work on this and I may have found the problem. The playhead is too wide to remove a single 1/30th of a second time slice. I have atttached a short video to show my point (well I wanted to attach a video but can't). I needed to do this several times in my orginal video but just could not.



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Dro

Spent more time on this than I would like but after several attempts I found that holding the Ctrl key down DID allow me to grab the Out-point marker and move it one time segment to the right. It takes some practice as the "mouse grab" is not immediate.

My initial request and suggestion stands. Having higher resolution for the audio edits would be really nice.

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Hi Don,

I just wanted to add another suggestion if the mouse workflow isn't working as easily as you'd like. You can place the playhead at the frame (1/30th of a second) you want to Cut and then use [ Ctrl + Shift + Right Arrow ] to move the red selector to the right to make a one frame selection with the playhead. You can also make a selection with the green selector using [ Ctrl + Shift + Left Arrow ]. If you hit the arrow keys more times you'll make a larger selection, but each press should be 1/30th of a second.

You might find you can be quicker this way as you get used to the keyboard shortcuts combined with the shortcuts for Cut and Play/Stop.

This doesn't solve the original problem of wanting higher resolution, but hopefully it helps you in making more precise selections.

-Steven
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Don Herbert

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Thanks for all the good suggestions. Will try them all.
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ron

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I would REALLY LOVE to get higher resolution too!  It's frustrating to not have it.
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Yunchin Kim

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I'm trying to sync two audio tracks so that I loop the song to be as long as my video.
1/30 of a frame isn't precise enough to match the waves of the audio tracks, so the song ends up sounding like it skips.
I ended up just using overlapping audio fade in/out transitions, but a more graceful solution would be the ability to adjust the track at finer increments than 30 fps.
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Yunchin Kim,

To the best of my knowledge. There isn't a video editing program available that allows for changing the duration of an audio track in increments that are dissimilar to the video frame rate.

If you could trim an audio tracks duration by 1/2 of a frame. That would create a dead spot in the audio. These areas of complete silence can have an adverse effect on audio quality as well. I believe that's why video editors have those restrictions built into them. But that's just my opinion.

 Audio editing software can trim audio by 1/1000's of a second and splice audio tracks together seamlessly.

My suggestion is this.
 Use the free program Audacity or a more robust audio editor like Adobe Audition.

 Create your music loops and import them into you project. 

Regards, Joe
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Hi Joe,

It's funny that you mentioned Audacity. I started using that on my next video, and it does the job :) Thank you for your suggestion.

Also your opinion makes a lot of sense - about creating dead spots in the audio. Thanks for that knowledge as well.
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Most of my videos are screen capture types so having a break in the video wouldn't really matter.  But getting rid of audio issues would be really nice.  It would be nice to have a finer resolution in the audio track.