Camtasia for iPad

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Camtasia needs to be developed for Tablets too. For example I write on iPad Apps but there is now way I can record and then publish a video on Youtube. iPad like Tablets have good enough resolution for making screen recording and should not be a porblem.

As of now I use my handycam to produce a video in dark room and then undergo cumbersome processing and then upload.

If you can make an app for iPad....I would love to grab it. Also as of now there is no app to record on iPad so you have a good chance looking at the work TechSmith have done till now.
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Arggghhh Ian I was afraid it was a jail-broken technique... those have been available for some time... what I want to know is WHY standard developers cannot duplicate this on non-jailbroken devices???

I do not want, nor should I have to jailbreak any of our iPads to do our job.
I simply cannot take the risk. If I lose one, I am out of business, which I cannot afford.

Thanks for your help Ian,
Maggie
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Good point. I've been asking Steve jobs that for a long time.

Welcome to apple! :-) you do things how we wants you to
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For those curious, I did NOT want to set up a camera and shoot the screen. Too many variables, such as glare. Rather, I used an Epiphan VGA2USB capture appliance (http://www.epiphan.com/). I used the lowest end product in their lineup. ($299) The more expensive capture appliances capture video with no lag. (Mine has some noticeable drag as I move apps, etc..) It comes with free capture software. (Video only. No audio.) So, I capture the video and then import it into iMovie 11 to add voice-over. (You have to script it out so that your timings are correct.) If I need to hide password input (which I did in one video I created), I use Gimp and iPhoto to create a static blur effect over the password field. (There's a cool way to do this in iMovie.)

However, I did attempt to bring the finished product back into Camtasia Studio for Mac (which is pretty lame, to be honest) to add call-outs and special effects, such as arrows and highlight boxes. That worked OK, but when I output the finished video, there was noticeable degradation in video quality from the original. (Very lossy.) Here's a [failed] example of that attempt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyW9kN...
I abandoned the attempt...

My suggestions for Camtasia? Develop software that works in conjunction with something like Epiphan and allows users to both capture video and audio, and add special effects without having to process the video through two products.There is simply too much video loss. Most people won't go through all this trouble, but I've got it down to a pretty simple and quick process. My only desire is adding special effects, such as a arrow to point out where I'm pressing or a superimposition of a "home" button when I press it.
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I simply do not have the time do all that processing, and I know it's possible on a un-jailbroken iPad, with both video and audio, but they are charging $800 for the adapter, which is ridiculous in my eyes... so I am keeping my eyes open.

Oh, and I am of the mindset that it should NOT be up to Steve Jobs to tell anyone what they can or cannot have on an iPad they purchased... I personally want to see Flash available if the owner wants it too!
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MaggieB, please share the details of the $800 adapter. I am desperate for a solution and tired of running down ideas that end up dead ends.

Appreciate your help and sharing.
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I don't have all the details Miles, but someone I know is using it (wish he would give up all the details but I don't know him that well) and what he is supposedly doing is mirroring his iPad 2 onto his laptop, in his case a Mac and I don't know if it will work on a Windows PC, and then capturing it on the computer...

He is using something called a VGA2USB LR

If you go do a Google search you will find: http://www.epiphan.com/products/frame... and if you scroll down you will see a diagram the shows you apparently hook up an iPad to this part with an iPad Dock Connector to VGA and then hook up the part to a USB on the other side to your PC that has wirecast software, which I guess captures the video???

I do not have all the particulars, hence why, along with the $800 pricetag, I haven't invested in it yet.

Hope this helps,
Maggie
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The website is the same as Rob mentioned above, but a far pricier model...
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They have 3 or 4 models. I ordered the lowest end model (VGA2USB) which runs $299. Still expensive, but adequate for iPad mirroring. The VGA2USB LR is one of their pricier versions and provides the highest quality mirroring.
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Thanks MaggieB. I am aware of the Epiphan product line, and have tried both low end and the $800 product you mention. My challenge is that the original iPad does NOT send a VGA signal out for all applications. As an example, it works for a presentation using MightyMeeting or 2Screens presentations but not for the majority of the apps.

I want to show the actual activity when scanning a QR Code, but nothing works so far.

I have seen the iPad2 push out all screens using the HDMI out cable and adapter to a TV, but that doesn't solve my screen capture challenge.

It makes me appreciate the valuable resource that Camtasia Studio has become for me over the last several years. I can only hope that Techsmith will be able to figure out a way to provide this to us on an iPad. Who ever figures this solution out first appears to have a pretty substantial pent up demand with educators, trainers, speakers and others.
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Rob, which iPad did you do it with? Were there specific apps or where you showing the home screen, settings, and any other screen that you selected?
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Miles, I actually just invested in the iPad 2 this week b/c I understand the screen capturing is not possible on the original iPad.

I have seen the videos that the guy I "know" in Australia is making by mirroring (his term) his iPad using that adapter, to his PC and, I assume capturing it from there.
the only thing you cannot see (like when screen capturing a PC with Camtasia) is the finger on the screen as it manipulates the apps.

It looks GREAT! Since I review iPad apps it would be wonderful!
Just making sure that I have all the info I need and don't overinvest if there is a simpler, less costly way.
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I did those tutorials with an iPad 2 using a standard VGA dongle. (The Epiphan I have only accepts VGA.)

I have some tutorials that are intended for iPad basics (home screen, managing apps, nesting applications into groups, etc.) I also have some others I've developed for specific applications. (More coming.) Another tutorial I developed is how to use the screen capture function (Home button + power.)
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Epiphan (http://www.epiphan.com )

VGA2USB ($299)
VGA2USB LR ($879)
VGA2USB HR (High-Rez) ($1,679)
VGA2USB Pro ($2,078)

You can see why I ordered the $299 version - and cringed a bit at that. But, until someone comes out with something else (someone certainly will) this works for me.
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I should add that the low-end product gives me 800 x 600 resolution. Not great, but good enough. The Pro (high-end) spits out a mind-bending 2048 x 2048 resolution.
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I have seen the VGA2USB LR for $800 but for me that is high, we are a fledgling company. I know I have to make the investment, I just want it to be the RIGHT investment.
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Hi guys, its great to see an interesting and informative discussion here!

For the time being it looks like hardware capture is the way to go. Numerous professional solutions are out there (with professional price tags!)

iOS 5 will have Airplay capabilities for the entire device so we may see wireless capture from an Airplay receiver program.
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Thanks for the guidance David. At least I know that there is not something from TechSmith in the near term anyway. Airplay...that would be an interesting way to accomplish this.
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Thanks for your input David!
I love my Camtasia on my PC, just wish that I had an alternative on my iPad that made it as easy from a name I can trust, like yours.
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Hi everyone,

Kelly Rush here (video production specialist at TechSmith). Maybe this will be helpful to some of you trying to capture video from your tablets. First, here is the result of my capture:

http://screencast.com/t/VvWaSd7xs

(at the 46 second mark, the video appears to freeze for ten seconds; this isn't the video, it's the browser on the tablet, which was having a bit of a time loading the Flash player video)

The tablet is an Asus Transformer running the latest version of Honeycomb. It has an HDMI-out port, which I connected to an HDMI cable. I then installed an HDMI capture card on my computer, made by a company called AverMedia, and the device is called an Avertv HD DVR Capture Card (which you can find available to purchase here - http://goo.gl/5M1UC ). I ran the HDMI cable into this card, and used their capture software to display the video on the screen. For some reason, their software is reading the stream as protected, and as such, their software will not let you record the video. No matter, that's where our friend Jing comes in! (or you could use Camtasia Studio of course as well, if you have it handy).

What I did was unlock the screen, and this displays the stream on your screen. Then, using Jing, I dragged out the region I wanted to capture (which was the full region of the tablet screen), pressed record, and away I went!

I don't know if this will work with an iPad or not, as I do not have one handy. If I can find someone around the office that has one, I will see if I can borrow it, as well as an HDMI-out adapter, for a few days, and report back as to whether or not that functions similarly.

Hope this was helpful to you all!

Kelly Rush
Video Production Specialist
TechSmith Corporation
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I purchased this AverMedia card, but the software does not recognize it.

Running Windows 7

Any ideas?
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Hey,

What steps have you gone through? In general, it should be:

1. Install the card.
2. Install the software/drivers.
3. Hook your tablet up via HDMI (make sure the cable is going into the right slot on the card).
4. Run the software.
5. Switch the input to HDMI.
6. Tablet screen should show up.

Kelly Rush
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It's tricky. It depends a lot on your monitors. AverMedia likes certain resolutions. (Lower the better.) For example, I was attempting to use mine today with another monitor, but continued to get error messages. It has to do with the DVI input. (There are 16 possible combinations of DVI adapters.) Once I hooked it up to the correct monitor, it worked fine. One other thing I discovered today: Some apps take control of the capture screen and only show certain things. For example, I was attempting to show Mathboard, but only one area of the screen would capture no matter what I did. I think this is by design so that it can be used in the classroom as a drill and practice application.
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TechSmith should develop a capture card for this sort of thing. Frankly, the Avermedia is pretty crappy, but it's the best thing out there. I have to use it in conjunction with Camtasia in order to capture mobile screencasts.
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Kelly, you rock! What I am doing requires iPad so I am excited to hear what you are able to find out.

Thanks for the extra effort!
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Definitely, I'm excited too! Hopefully I can let you know the results either way soon!

Kelly Rush
Video Production Specialist
TechSmith Corporation
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I pursued that angle, but the local PC shop only had HDMI 'out' cards, not HDMI capture cards. I assumed they didn't exist.
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Yeah, the local PC shop likely wouldn't have them, they're still a very niche item. As far as I am aware, only two companies make them (Blackmagic and AverMedia), and only the AverMedia card comes with capture software; Blackmagic used to, and it worked really well, but for some reason they just stopped providing it, and I don't think you can even download it from them anymore (their card mostly works with other capture/editing software like Adobe Premiere, etc).

I see somebody dropped an iPad HDMI-out adapter on my desk this morning...now if only i could find an iPad to attach it to! :P
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HI Kelly,

My application requires the use of an iPad too, as I review iPad apps... I am very excited to find out your results with an iPad.

Is it possible to install a capture card to a laptop? I abandoned my PC years ago!

Thanks,
MaggieB
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Hi Maggie, me too! I did find an iPad 1, so I will at least be able to try that out tonight.

Regarding capture on a laptop, the ONLY external capture device for HDMI that I know of is made by Blackmagic, who again do not appear to have any software available that will work well for capturing from a tablet. For what it's worth, this is the device:

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/prod...

Note that it is USB 3.0-compliant only as well, and there are not a lot of laptops that support USB 3.0 yet, so that might not be of much use to you. I'd simply go the desktop route, less problematic. If you're looking for something portable (which I'm betting is the case, if you're asking about a laptop), try checking out an ultra small form factor desktop computer. It's not quite a laptop, but might be portable enough to take with you on trips. Something like the Dell OptiPlex 990 (ultra small form factor version) might be an idea, but you'd want to make sure that a) it has enough power to capture both the video stream AND record at the same time, and b) has a PCI-Express expansion slot. (I do not own this system, not have I ever used one, so you'd have to do your homework there). If you are into (or know someone who is) building your own computers, then maybe check out the Shuttle-brand series of computer cases, that could be a pretty good starting point for a portable-ish computer.

Ok, back on the hunt for an iPad 2... :)

Kelly Rush
Video Production Specialist
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Maggie, I'm hoping that there will be Thunderbolt capture peripherals that connect to the new Thunderbolt ports to allow capture on Apple's newest computers. Currently there are Firewire media encoders but they are rather pricey- this is the main barrier to iPad recording, the expense.

If you review iPad software for a publication, maybe they would purchase the hardware for you?
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And check out the announcement for Screenchomp for the Ipad!

http://labs.techsmith.com/
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Your friendly neighborhood video producer, reporting back!

Ok, I was able to get both an iPad 1 and 2 for testing purposes. The results were...mixed.

Here is the link to the iPad 1 video.

Oh wait, no link. It didn't work. :( Sorry, no iPad 1 video. However, here is the link (an actual link!) to the iPad 2 video:

http://screencast.com/t/blSGyaYZz

From the reading that I have done so far, it appears that you can only push video out via the HDMI adapter on an iPad 1 if you jailbreak your device. I'll keep digging tonight to see if I find anything that says otherwise. With the iPad 2, on the other hand, I simply had to plug the HDMI adapter into the iPad, connect an HDMI cable, and then plug that into the HDMI capture card. The screen showed up right away, and we were off the races!

So it appears that this process will work well with the iPad 2, and possibly Android tablets with an HDMI-out function (only verified on the Transformer, if anyone is interested I can probably find a few other devices to try as well...). iPad 1...not so much, but hey...maybe that's a good excuse for an upgrade? ;)

If anyone wants me to test any specific applications on either the Transformer or the iPad 2, let me know, I'd be happy to do that as well (time permitting).

Hope that helps!

Kelly Rush
Video Production Specialist
TechSmith Corporation

EDIT:

P.S. Not looking so good for the iPad 1. It seems like only video can be displayed through the HDMI-out, unless you jailbreak it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthrea...

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