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Camtasia needs to be developed for Tablets too. For example I write on iPad Apps but there is now way I can record and then publish a video on Youtube. iPad like Tablets have good enough resolution for making screen recording and should not be a porblem.

As of now I use my handycam to produce a video in dark room and then undergo cumbersome processing and then upload.

If you can make an app for iPad....I would love to grab it. Also as of now there is no app to record on iPad so you have a good chance looking at the work TechSmith have done till now.
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Thx Kelly!

No audio with the iPad 2?
Could you tell us briefly how the video capture card is installed?

Maggie
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Hi Maggie,

Great question! I forgot to test this initially. The computer I'm using (my home system) has one of the cheapest, worst sound adapters ever made. As such, there is no way to capture the sound (you need to use the loopback from the computer with Jing, the option would be labeled Stereo Mix, or something like that). I will say, with the HDMI cable hooked up, I played a track in iTunes, and was able to hear it through my computer speakers. I'd hate to say absolutely it will work, but if you found a sound card that supported it (probably about 50% of them do), then I'd give you about a 99% guarantee that you'd be able to record audio as well. :)

For the capture card...I was actually thinking of making a video for all of you soon, showing the entire process, and posting it on our blog (the Visual Lounge). Is that something you'd be interested in? In the meantime, the basic summary is:

1. Purchase the AverMedia HDMI capture card I posted earlier.

2. Find a computer with an open PCI-Express slot. The computer should probably be pretty decent; nothing super high-end, but if it has multiple cores and was made in the last year or two, there's probably a good chance it will be fast enough. Put the capture card in this slot.

3. Install the drivers and capture software, available from the AverMedia website.

4. Install Jing or Camtasia Studio.

5. Plug an HDMI cable into the capture card, and then connect the HDMI cable to your tablet (either directly with an Android tablet or with the HDMI adapter with the iPad 2, remember, no iPad 1 support without jailbreaking).

6. Run the AverMedia software. Go through the settings and options until you see the tablet screen show up (sorry, I'll document this step more if I do a video).

7. Start your capture with Jing or Camtasia Recorder. Draw the capture region around the tablet screen.

8. Use your tablet.

9. Stop Jing or Camtasia Recorder, and process your file (save it, upload it, whatever step you want to take).

You're done! If you want to capture audio, make sure you set up the correct audio inputs first (again, I'll try to find a computer that has a better sound card when I do the video).

Hope that's helpful, and again, if you have any questions, let me know (I'm going to be away for a few days after tomorrow, so now would be the time if you have anything pressing).

Kelly Rush
Video Production Specialist
TechSmith Corporation

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P.S. I thought it might be useful for you to see the interface of the software, so I made a quick recording. It might give you at least an idea of what to expect to see:

http://screencast.com/t/oLIRJDXPTw
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Maggie,

Just an update for you. While I'm still using my same terrible sound card here at home, I was able to simply loop the speaker-out to the microphone-in with a cable and try recording that way. Indeed, both the sound and the video from the iPad comes through the AverMedia player, and is in turn recorded in the final video.

Kelly Rush
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Yikes Kelly.... that was a mouthful, and I'm not sure I understand.. although I do have external speakers hooked up to my laptop (I have it docked on my desk) so I think that means I can do this with my laptop and iPad 2 with the AverMedia player?

I have to take the time to look this all UP! My daughter just gave birth to my grandson yesterday & I her 3-year old staying with us.... on top of trying to keep up with usual business my head feels like it wants to EXPLODE! LOL!

Thanks for everything you are posting Kelly... I have it ALL saved...and YES! I would love the tutorial you mentioned earlier!

Maggie
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Hey Maggie,

Yes, you should be able to do what I did; almost every sound card has microphone inputs (there are a few exceptions, but they aren't common). Just get a stereo cable (see link after paragraph) and run it from your speaker-out (the thing your speakers are plugged into now, you'll have to unplug your speakers) and plug the other end into your microphone port (it's usually pink, though not always):

Stereo cable - http://goo.gl/uNsFE

No problem for the help; this is honestly all stuff that I've been meaning to figure out for our monthly web show "The Forge" ( http://goo.gl/CdMSU ) for when we start our next season in a few weeks, so thanks for giving me a reason to get motivated to do it! :)

Congrats on your new grandson!

Kelly Rush
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Thx again Kelly!
You are awesome!
Maggie
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No problem Maggie!

Kelly Rush
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Just ordered a capture card through Amazon ($93)
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Awesome Rob! Hopefully it works out for you, and if you have any questions or get stuck anywhere, just let me know, and I'll do my best to give you some tips!

Kelly Rush
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Cool Rob, how about a URL link?
THX!
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http://www.amazon.com/Avertv-Definiti...

Newegg sells them as well for a couple of bucks more.
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Thanks Rob!
Maggie
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Wow - very happy to find this thread. I am preparing to do training videos for iPad2. Luckily I just bought the Avermedia card referenced in this thread. I actually just submitted a support request for how to get the HDMI input on the Aver card to show up in Camtasia. I only see the analog inputs from the card when i click "Record Camera". However this is the first time I have ever started Camtasia - I must have some settings wrong. I guess my shortcoming is with item #6 Kelly's list above. Still I am very happy to see this card and the iPad2 referenced here.
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Wait - nevermind. I see now that Kelly is using the Avermedia software to output the iPad2 video to the screen and then using Camtasia to capture the screen. I had just assumed that I should use the "Record Camera" feature. But I have always been a big fan of whatever works. I will have to wait to test as I had borrowed an HDCP compliant monitor earlier to test. With my current monitor the iPad2 video display would not output to the screen. However when I borrowed a newer HDCP comliant monitor it worked fine. So I will buy a new monitor next week and go from there.
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Hi Clay,

Anxious to see how you make out!
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We have created a course that will provide you with step by step instructions on how to install the required applications on both your Windows PC and iDevice in order to create iPhone Screen Recordings.

http://elearningshow.com/moodle/cours...

Please take a look and provide your feedback.

All the best,

Kevin Brake
eLearningShow.com
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Hey it will either get Jan interested or upset with me lol.
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Other options would be to use an external iPhone Dock that can do HDMI output. Then use a capture card that would accept HDMI input: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/mi... or this one http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC953 I would select this one http://www.padgadget.com/2010/08/31/j... and use an ATI Capture Card should provide good quality and not cost too much. Another cool choice http://www.padgadget.com/2011/07/26/j...
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Thanks Kevin... will check these out... However this string started as Camtasia for iPad because most of us are looking to capture the iPad screen... although in my case I would like to figure out how to do both... hoping that one solution will cover both.
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You can still use Camtasia to do the final edit or even the initial capture. The suggestions are for a way to push the screen display to a windows pc that can then be captured with Camtasia.
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Here is video using the Blackmagic video capture card on a small netbook, but you apparently need one that supports 3.0 USB ports, and I have no idea if it will support audio since they don't show anything with audio in the video.
For what its worth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8HyU...
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Well Kelly what say ye? How's your experimentation going?
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Very well, Maggie! We actually ordered the card I was using at home here in the office today, and I have our awesome IT department putting together a computer for me to put it in. Time allowing, and with a little luck, I should hopefully have a video up mid-to-late next week! Stay tuned! (it will be posted on our Visual Lounge blog when it is done)

Kelly Rush
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Exciting stuff Kelly!

Remember I operate off a Windows 7 laptop... if you might ask them how I could hook that up externally if at all possible? Seems silly for an individual to have to invest in an entire PC to capture screen video from another device... realize its above the scope of what you are doing, but with more and more users opting for laptops over pc's nowadays its something to consider.

Thanks for all your help!
It is certainly appreciated!
~Maggie
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Hi Maggie,

Unfortunately, I think this is going to require a desktop PC no matter how you slice it. A few posts back, I posted a link to an external HDMI capture card made by Blackmagic, but the two issues there are:

1. Lack of software (perhaps this has changed since I tried capturing using a Blackmagic product on Windows).

2. Requires USB 3.0 I believe, which most laptops do not have yet anyway.

So really, if you want to capture this way, buying a cheap PC and sticking the card in it is the way to go...I think you'll probably just end up with disappointment and heartache if you try to make this work on a laptop (and I'd love to help you avoid all of that!) :)

Kelly Rush
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You are right Kelly, my Gateway's USB slots are 2.0.
I just cannot see having to invest in a whole computer for this.
I will continue to locate a solution.

If they can easily do this on jailbroken iPads with nothing more than software of an HDMI out adapter than it should be doable without having to invest an arm and a leg and a new computer on one that isn't.

I will continue to check in and stay abreast of what you are doing but will continue in other directions at the same time. I'll let everyone know if I find that solution.

MaggieB
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MaggieB less than a minute ago
Here is video using the Blackmagic video capture card on a small netbook, but you apparently need one that supports 3.0 USB ports, and I have no idea if it will support audio since they don't show anything with audio in the video.
For what its worth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8HyU...
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Looks Awesome. Is that iPad Jailbroken?
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Apparently not, but as Kelly noted before you have to have a PC or laptop that has the brand new 3.0 USB ports, it will not work with the standard 2.0 ports most of us have. Apparently 3.0 ports support faster action and better video.
Ashish you might want to check out Kelly's posts up the way..
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@MaggieB: Yup, that's the Blackmagic Shuttle I was telling you about. It will likely work very well...assuming you have USB 3.0. I have to imagine HDMI would give you both the audio and the video (it's essentially identical to the Blackmagic Intensity Pro card).

@Ashish Mohta: The iPad in the video I featured was literally opened from it's package five minutes before hooking it up to HDMI. No jailbreak required!

Kelly Rush
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Okay, did anyone know that they are now making usb hubs that you plug into your laptop via a 2.0 port that will power up a number of 3.0 ports in the hub??? Are they any good? Do they work? Do they really supply enough power to run the peripheral?

So would that work to power up that Blackmagic video capture card on my laptop?
I can't afford to go out & buy a whole new PC just to capture video but a hub is around $30... and how much was that card???

I just wish I knew someone that had tried it!
Maggie
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I'm guessing that a USB 3 hub won't work. You would need an actual USB 3 port, either from a CardBus card in a laptop or a PCI-e or Thunderbolt breakout box.

If your computer doesn't have the capability, you are looking at a more expensive external converter to do the capture.

Or just wait for iOS 5 and Airplay this fall which should eliminate the entire need for capture hardware.
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You think that iOS 5 will enable Airplay to facilitate this? I haven't heard one developer that is in beta with iOS 5 mention this at all.
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Hey everyone,

This will be on our blog some time next week, but I'm done with the video, so I figured I'd just post it here first. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vho_GV...

Enjoy, and have a great weekend!

Kelly Rush
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WOW You've been BUSY! Great video Kelly!

However I don't hear any voiceover. When one uses Camtasia on a PC to capture the screen into a video one can narrate for the viewer... I am not hearing your voice in the video you made with the video capture card. It must only capture the video and audio of the iPad 2? Not your voice as you talk.
That would require one to dub in another voice track for narration.

I review iPad and iPhone apps, so the narration is essential.
It is possible. I have seen the results. However it requires that $800 part mentioned above...

Thanks for all your efforts Kelly.
They, and all your time, are greatly appreciated.
Maggie
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Hey Maggie,

Thanks for watching the video, hope it was useful.

Audio narration certainly could be possible; I didn't really think to try it that way in the video (since my audio was being recorded on an external camcorder), but I would think it could be possible, depending on your sound card (same deal as recording speaker audio, you need a decent card, the cheap ones sometimes leave that feature out). You just need a sound card that supported a function called "monitoring microphone audio", which essentially means that as you speak into the microphone, it plays it back out through the speakers. Since you're recording the speaker audio anyway (to capture the sound from the tablet), it'd just be tacked on along with that. Things to keep in mind with that approach:

1. When you monitor the mic audio, it is playing through the speaker, and thus it will be picked up by your microphone, so you have to be careful to not create a feedback loop (that big squeal you sometimes hear when people talk on microphones).

2. The microphone audio and tablet audio will be married into one track. That means that any level adjustments must be done before the fact (raising the recording levels of the device), because once they're in the file, you won't be able to independently raise/lower them, or even do things like fix noise.

Hope that was helpful Maggie, and if there's anything else you'd like me to try, if I can do it, I will.

Kelly Rush
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Thx Kelly... I figure since I can capture video & audio with Camtasia on my laptop AND talk over what I am recording at the same time through my mic that it should work mirroring the iPad 2 to the PC too?
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Yup, that'd be the way to do it! ;)

Kelly Rush
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Kelly:
Great job!

Thanks.
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Thanks Richard, and thanks for taking the time to watch! If there's anything else you'd like me to try out, just let me know.

Kelly Rush
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Just received the Avermedia capture card.. My plan is to capture HDMI from the iPad 2 directly into Camtasia, add narration and animation call outs. I'll keep everyone posted. Hope to have an example posted next week...
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Thanks Rob, looking forward to it! Will you be talking over the video capture as you record the screen like one normally does when capturing video with Camtasia directly from the PC?
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Cool Rob, keep us updated. If you have any questions along the way, don't hesitate to ask.

Kelly Rush
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And, as promised, here is our blog post with the video I created. Thanks to everyone for your interest, and if you have any questions, feel free to leave them (either here or on the blog post, blog post might be more helpful for people who are not using our system here).

http://visuallounge.techsmith.com/201...

Kelly Rush
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Whoohoo Kelly! GREAT job!
Thank you for all your work and solution.

While it's not what I personally was looking for it is a great alternative for those using PC's.

Thanks again,
Maggie
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Thanks Maggie, hopefully it will still be helpful for you in some way!

Kelly
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Kelly:

Great video. I watched it all the way through, but really couldn't tell if your system audio (Angry Birds) actually captured and played.
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Rob,

I don't think that it did, mostly because it was being interrupted by Camtasia Studio, which was also recording system audio. The recording was structured like:

1. Camtasia Recorder was recording the audio for the actual video that you watched (which didn't work for some reason, I was using a beta build of Camtasia Studio though, so maybe something was messed up at the moment).

2. Jing was recording the video that I was showing as a demonstration.

It's like that, because Camtasia Recorder was already using the audio device, it wouldn't allow Jing to use it (this is just how Windows works, only one application can access the hardware at a time). Rest assured that I did try recording AverMedia with both Jing and Camtasia Studio in tests, and it was able to record the audio that was streaming through the HDMI from the tablet!

Thanks a lot for watching the whole video (I know it was a bit long)!

Kelly
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However, while it recorded the audio that was streaming from the tablet did it capture your voiceover? There are a lot of us that want to do this just like we use Camtasia on our PC, which is to say narrating the video as it is being recorded. Have you verified that THAT is possible using your method?

Thanks again Kelly,
Maggie
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Hey Maggie,

As long as you're using Camtasia Studio 7 and Windows Vista or Windows 7, then it should certainly be possible (the Recorder application contains an option to record both microphone AND system audio). On Windows XP, it will probably more depend on your sound card (it's been a while since I've used XP, my apologies). I believe this option is available on Camtasia for Mac as well, but since the AverMedia software only works with Windows (that I'm aware of), you'd need to try it with the Blackmagic Intensity Pro (there's software out there somewhere; maybe contact Blackmagic to see if they can help you out on that end).

Kelly
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Thx Kelly,
I use the newest version of Camtasia & Windows 7 but in my instance I run them both on my laptop... so I'll have to find another solution since I cannot install a video capture card in a laptop & I am not going to buy a PC just to capture iPad video. I know there has to be alternatives since Kevin was doing it with purely software (albeit an older version we can no longer get) and owners of jail broken iPads have been doing it for months, even on the original one.

I guess I continue to pursue a proper solution for me, and my readers.

Thanks for all your help, it is very appreciated!
Maggie
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Hi folks:

Here's an advance preview of the screencast included in tomorrow's issue of my newsletter the Screencaster...

http://screencastervids.s3.amazonaws....
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Daniel, unfortunately that "Display Recorder" app only works on jailbroken devices which is not something we encourage. Jailbreaking voids the warranty and is not supported by Apple.

We'd love to see more ideas that work on an iOS device as it comes from Apple, in a supported way.
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Hi David. I'm aware that it breaks the warranty, and said as much in my video. That said, there's nothing illegal or immoral about it. I paid for my device, I own it, and if I want to jailbreak it, or smash it on the sidewalk, that's my right.

In truth, getting a proper screencast is the only reason I looked into jailbreaking in the first place.

Stealing software is illegal and immoral. Paying for and using software that happens not to be endorsed by Steve Jobs isn't even grey area in my opinion. I refuse to feel guilty for offering folks a viable software-based solution where none existed before, even without Apple Computer there to bless the code.

I'll leave it to my readers to decide independently whether this path is for them. If it's TechSmith's official position that no mention of jailbreaking should happen on a TSC forum, I guess I'll respect it, and you're more than welcome to wait around for a "supported" solution. But personally, I'd rather just keep making screencasts.

cheers, d.
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Our entire conversation, over all these months, has taken place precisely because none of us want to have to resort to jailbreaking our devices. We shouldn't have to, and we cannot afford to risk something happening to a device we use to make our living, or void the warranty from Apple.

That being said, if it can be done on a jailbroken device it should be able to be done on one that isn't. We have all seen it done; we just need to find the right solution for each of our instances.

Thanks,
Maggie
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Maggie, I may be mistaken, I believe the issue is a policy one, not a technical one.

As for jailbreaking-related risk, the technical risk is almost non-existent. The warranty issue is obviously a biggie for many - mine is an iPad 1, and the warranty's expired anyway. If no reasonable solution exists by the time your Applecare finally putters out, who knows, maybe you'll be ready to take the plunge...
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Daniel, just had to stop back to say your video was VERY well done! Wish it was something I could consider doing, but not with my brand new iPad 2...

I think it's ludicrous that Steve Jobs ties our hands like this and I know there are ways to do it. I only hope I find a way that works for me soon. I am so tired of using a camcorder!

Again, great job!
Maggie

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