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Camtasia needs to be developed for Tablets too. For example I write on iPad Apps but there is now way I can record and then publish a video on Youtube. iPad like Tablets have good enough resolution for making screen recording and should not be a porblem.

As of now I use my handycam to produce a video in dark room and then undergo cumbersome processing and then upload.

If you can make an app for iPad....I would love to grab it. Also as of now there is no app to record on iPad so you have a good chance looking at the work TechSmith have done till now.
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Hi All,
Is there a way to load PDF files on the screen and record the voice with Camtasia with iPad? Please let me know the procedure, if yes.
regards
Varadh
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Varadh:
I realize this is a long thread - but the short answer is - no - the current options for your goal are well-covered in the earlier posts to this thread.
Richard
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Hi Varadharajan, we do not have a Camtasia for iPad program. You can use our Screenchomp iPad app to load a background image and record video and/or voice.
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It would be great if Camtasia could develop a Video Screen Capturing software for iPad 2. Video Marketers/Trainers like myself can show things off the iPad create a video and post it on YouTube.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Video Screen Capture for iPad 2.
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I purchased one of the Avermedia HDMI cards. Works, but a little wonky. The software that comes with it reminds me of an old Windows 98 application - very clunky. Plus, you have to play with it for a while before you can get the correct capture settings. (It captures through an option called "Live TV". Figure that one out.) Also, we never could get it to work in a relatively new computer with XP. Switched to one with Win 7 (Same computer otherwise) and it fired up. Nobody to call for support. Everything done through Email. The upshot is that it works (and works with Camtasia overlaying voice and callouts), but I sure wish there were other capture options available.
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Glad you got it working Rob! Yeah, I think Windows XP won't work, due to how Windows XP would draw video on the screen, and how Camtasia Studio is able to capture (we'd have to get a developer in here for a deeper explanation). It definitely isn't as slick as just loading up an application on your tablet, but until that is possible (without jailbreaking), I personally think this is the best solution for many people.

Kelly Rush
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TechSmith Corporation
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I need a solution ( OS X) that will allow me to use Camtasia for Mac to record screen captures off my Ipad 2. I kow there is a way using Camtasia for windows but what about a solution for mac?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Capturing screen movements in an IPad 2.
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There's no way to do it even on Windows unless you use a capture card. Many (myself included) are using AverMedia HDMI capture card, but I don't know how well it supports Mac. Take a look at Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro. Should work just fine on mac.

At some point in the future, it *might* be possible to do it in software using an AirPlay client, but so far I didn't have any luck getting this to work.
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Yup, the Blackmagic Intensity Pro should work just fine, assuming you can get their software package to work. It's been a while, but I think they used to have a good application for showing what was coming through HDMI, but when I checked (again, if I'm remembering correctly), they discontinued it. We use a Blackmagic Intensity Pro on our web show "The Forge" (we actually use three of them) to capture camera and tablet video, and they work just fine...but you need the software to display it on the screen first, so that Camtasia for Mac can see it and capture it.

Unfortunately, AverMedia does not make a driver or any capture software for the Mac, so you'd be out of luck there!
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Maybe there are 3rd party viewers for Mac? I used to use Intensity Pro on Windows with a freeware DirectShow viewer (AmaRecTV) to capture the live view. Maybe the mac has a similar generic driver / viewer option?
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DemoFox, it appears that Apple is using encryption of the Airplay stream in iOS 5 so that a desktop Airplay client cannot read the video. At this time, the only solution is a hardware capture device.

You can certainly leave feedback on Apple's website asking for a recording solution in either iOS or in a desktop program; http://www.apple.com/feedback/
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I figured as much. I can certainly understand why they're doing this (preventing video piracy, etc) but it does hurt all of us who are actually creating iPad products and trying to market them. Oh well.
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Would it be possible to capture from Ipad output to an AppleTV?
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Yep. You will need to upgrade your iPad to iOS5 which supports full screen mirroring over AirPlay. But to record the screen you will still need a capture device.
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I use Camtasia for Mac to record my iPad footage directly using the iOS simulator.

You can't see shake, or necessarily multi-touch gestures, but you can use simulated tools and the addition of graphics/fingers to the app to show what to do.

See the quality Camtasia produces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vua_c...
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Jason, that works for some things but for example, we cannot capture audio from the Simulator and obviously it doesn't have the same functionality as a real device.
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Richard, an AppleTV 2 only has HDMI and optical audio out, so you would be better off just getting the HDMI adaptor and using a capture device. Right now there simply is not a way around this.
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Hi David,

Actually I am using Camtasia for Mac and capturing sound from the iOS Simulator. Technically it's the System Audio. So any system notification like email sounds will interfere, but you can simply close down all apps other than XCODE and IOS Simulator.

I agree that multitouch and tilt gestures are hard to simulate, however as a developer you can overcome that by using :-

http://itunes.apple.com/app/isimulate...

I downloaded the Camtasia trial specifically for making iOS videos as a HD Camcorder wasn't good enough.

I was so impressed with the quality of the capture of Camtasia that I purchased the full version from the AppStore.

Kind Regards
Jason
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Jason could you please explain furthere how you have set this up? You are capturing iPad video on a PC with Camtasia? What is this iOS Simulator and how does it work into the scenario? Any help is much appreciated.
I really need to video my iPad screen as apps are in play and really tired of the results I get with a camcorder and can't justify shelling out $800 for a part.

Thanks!
Maggie
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Thanks, Maggie. The Epiphan device only captures video, not audio. If you wanted to capture pristine audio directly from iPad you'd need something else, probably connected to the headphone jack of iPad and from there to your laptop. Of course, you could have your own microphone placed very close to the iPad's speaker and capture audio this way... but... you'd also capture a lot of ambient noise.

As for a software-based AirPlay solution, we'll have to wait for someone to hack whatever encryption Apple added in iOS 5 (which of course... *cough*... nobody should be doing... *cough*.) The software AirPlay clients that did work with iOS 4.x are no longer working.

Keep in mind that if you do have the option of using a desktop computer, it opens up a whole world of PCI-Express based HDMI capture cards, which can be purchased for less than $200. Something to think about...
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Okay, it would have been nice if the person that did the pay-per-view video using the Epiphan $800 part said it only captures video! They didn't mention that.

They showed a diagram showing their iPad 2 or iPhone 4 - connect to VGA Adapter - connect to Ephipan VGA to USB device and then connect to laptop or PC with a USB cord.
They also show the same iPad 2 or iPhone 4 connected to a 2-channel audio box and then that is connected into the same laptop.

Does that make sense? So that's the only way to get good sound in this setup? I guess that audio box & the suggested mic run another $200 so people were a bit upset to learn that the "easy" solution cost a GRAND!

There actually was someone on this thread a while ago that did it all with simple, free software but an upgrade blasted that idea out of the water as it no longer works. And it wasn't on jailbroken devices!

This is crazy, there should be a simpler way of doing this. I have a site that reviews iPad apps. You would think that Apple would want us to be able to do this!

Grrrr!
Maggie
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Yes... you would think that... but it's Apple we're talking about here. A company that could do no wrong even when it does :-) I talked to someone at my local Apple store about all the hoops I had to jump through to capture iPad video (and audio) just so that I can demo software that was specifically designed for their devices. The guy was very sympathetic to my cause but didn't really have any other ideas.

All that being said, audio capture should be pretty cheap. It can probably be done with a $5 cable that connects to your iPad's headphone jack and your computer "mic in". Haven't tested this so I don't know what the quality would be like. Go to Radio Shack and ask them what they think.

If you capture through HDMI you get both video and audio at the same time. But, again, this option is very tricky if all you have is a laptop. If you feel like having a bit of an adventure here, go to eBay and order one of the HDMI Capture Express Cards. Costs under $180 and ships from China. If this works as advertised, you might have just found a very affordable solution for both audio and video at very high quality. You do need a laptop with an Express Card slot but most modern ones have it... unless of course you have a Mac... in which case you can thank Apple (again) for removing Express Card from all Macbook models except the most expensive one.
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If you're looking at going that $800 Epiphan route, you're honestly probably better off looking at the HDMI capture card solution. I obviously can't make any guarantees about performance, but nowadays any entry-level computer (which will set you back around $350-450) will probably be up to the task of recording the screen while the video is playing. Add in the capture card, and you're looking at around $200-300 less than that Epiphan solution. The added bonus of the HDMI solution is that you can also capture the audio coming out of the iPad directly through the HDMI cable (assuming your sound card supports it...which many of them do).

Kelly Rush
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I should buy a PC JUST to capture iPad video??? I won't use it for anything else! I think not.
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The iOS Simulator is not for general use, it is intended for people developing iOS apps and won't behave like a normal iPad. You can't install apps on it or use it as a regular device.
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I assumed as much David. I think its so developers can simulate their own app as they are developing it? So won't work for all apps, only ones you own I think.

Thanks!
Maggie
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Hi Maggie,

Yes that's correct, you need a Mac/MacBook/Mac Mini. Xcode is free which includes the iOS simulator. You don't need to be a registered developer unless you want to write code and install onto a physical device.

It is possible to run owned apps on the iOS Simulator, but you need some technical know how. There are limitations with this.

The way apps are sandboxed, means that a direct recording app on the iPad to record your videos isn't possible, unless apple chose to do this themselves. As they don't permit apps on the store using undocumented API's. They are quite strict.

Alternatively, a hd camcorder on a tripod pointing down to the device on a table is probably the next best and cheaper option.

Kind Regards
Jason
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The problem with a camera-based solution is that it's incredibly difficult to get the lighting right and prevent reflections. The vast majority of tutorials that are done this way look pretty bad. If quality is a top concern, then I'd argue that you'll end up spending more on video, lighting and studio equipment rather than just buying a decent capture device... even if it means shelling out $800 for the Epiphan.
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Thanks for your input Jason.
I have been recording (128 videos so far) the iPad with a camcorder for over a year now... it is tiresome and it does not fill the screen... am really looking for a better alternative without having to jailbreak my iPad.

Thanks again,
Maggie
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All new Macs come with the Thunderbolt port, and the new Black Magic capture device plugs into Thunderbolt. Hopefully it will ship soon. Otherwise on the Mac side you would need a Mac Pro or a PCI breakout chassis that plugs in via Thunderbolt or ExpressCard.

Matrox has an HDMI capture device as well that uses Firewire 800 but its expensive as well.
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I'm at a crossroads of starting to use my camcorder or my HD webcams to capture Screen Recordings, but as someone mentioned Epiphan VGA Recorder, I also found BlackMagic HyperDeck Shuttle which appears to be a lower cost solution ($345 vs $799) for an external Video Capture.

It seems to me that TechSmith or other developers should be able to initiate a Screen / Display Recording by using the External VGA or HDMI Adaptors is some way.

The ScreenChomp App seems to demonstrate that it is possible to record within an App so what more will it take to do this as a background application like a screen sharing app.
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That's what we are all asking, and waiting for. It seems that people that are willing to jailbreak their iPad, even the original, can do exactly what we want to do, which in my case is to help review apps to be able to promote and ultimately sell them... which I would think Apple wants even though they make my job more difficult by not giving us an easy way to simply screen capture iPad video with sound.

People, other, not you since you realize that its not what we are looking for, keep bringing up ScreenChomp. There are lots of other apps that do the same thing, I just don't understand either why they cannot take it that one step farther to a Camtasia app that streams the video to a desktop for capture.

On another note, be careful of how the cards you look at connect to your PC. A lot of add-on devices (not actually installed inside a computer) require a 3.0 USB and not a lot of computers have those yet, only the newest ones. Most have 2.0 USB ports, and they will not support a 3.0 device.
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If Apple allowed technical feasibility of an "Camtasia for the Ipad"
I am sure that Techsmith would be on top of it.Perhaps the planning at Apple for an Apple tv set and itunes delivery of media makes them protective of video streams from their devices.
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Oh we know that Techsmith would be all over it, as they should be and I would buy their solution to use just like I use their Camtasia product.

Withholding good technology doesn't stop people from getting the videos, we just record them with our camcorders, it is just not showing the iPad to its best advantage, and that is, in the end, not good business for Apple.

Reviewing apps submitted to me by their developers is my business, to show them in their very best light is only good business for both them, myself and Apple.
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The simple fact is that Apple for good reasons do not open up their deveice to permit such a recording, other than within your own app.

You say it's not good business for Apple. The fact is that Apple's App turn over was over $2Bn in 2009 and growing. Like it or not, their business model grows each year.

Developers can create video footage of their apps using the simulator. For everyone else who wishes to create tutorials for how we use apps/games etc in the real world are unfortunately limited.

Apple don't condone piracy and such an App as already mentioned would mean ripping of the film/media.

I agree you can rip Blu-Rays/DVD's and downloadable films elsewhere, but that is not the Apple Business model nor what their EULA is with the media firms such as Sony BMG, etc.

There have been some very good responses from the group in alternate workarounds, which unfortunately will cost more than a few sheckles from the app store.

Give Techsmith their due though, I don't think there is anything more they can do, unless sufficient users want the functionality that may make it commercially viable for techsmith to partner or broker a deal with many of the hardware manufactures/solutions posted in this forum to give their users a discount on that solution?

What do you think TechSmith?
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Let's just be clear, I, and I haven't heard anyone else on this forum, speak of piracy. I am working with the developers personally. We are only looking for ways to give them a better representation of their work. That has nothing to do with the Apple business model. We all know that Apple is making a bundle, we just don't think they would turn down more.
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When can we expect to see a Screen/Display Recorder like Camtasia Studio for the iPad? There are several applications available that can perform in-app screen capture, included TechSmith's own Screen Chomp, but those far no Screen / Display Recorder / Screencast that works for the entire iPad. I'm not a fan of jailbreaking just to use Display Recorder. I would even consider using a TechSmith Screen/Display Recorder if it required me to have my VGA or HDMI adaptor plugged in. Come on Tech Smith!!! I'm a big fan but I'm doing most of my work on the iPad and want Camtasia Studio there with me.

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Camtasia Studio for iPad, ScreenChomp is a nice start for the kids, but looking for a lot more..
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TechSmith can only do whatever Apple and the APIs allow them to do. Currently, there are no global display capture APIs that can be accessed from an app's sandbox (without "rooting" or jailbreaking).

As for a "TechSmith Display Recorder", are you suggesting they develop a hardware capture device for Camtasia? It's an interesting suggestion but software companies tend to stay in the software business :-). And if you're willing to go the hardware route, why not buy an HDMI capture card now?

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