Camtasia Studio 8. Copy and paste Pan & Zoom from one clip to another , how?

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How do I copy and paste a pan and zoom from one track to another in Camtasia Studio 8?

I have done this for a long time in v7 for split tracks to retain its current pan and zoom position when a clip continues into the next cut clip. For example I split the video, apply a faster clip speed with pan and zoom, then copy that pan and zoom to the nexp clip which is at normal speed, this way the pan and zoom keeps its position and zoom level?

Thankyou.
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Hi Daniel,

As you may have noticed, the timeline was completely rewritten, which meant we had to start from scratch on the existing features. Unfortunately, copy/paste on Zoom/Pan keyframes fell off the bottom of the list and didn't get re-implemented.

I'm very sorry about that.

As a workaround, if you just want to continue a zoom across splits, you could group the two clips and then apply the keyframe to the group. That will apply the zoom at a higher level that will be maintained across clip boundaries.

Randy
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This has not worked for me after several attempts. Techsmith - you need to restore the zoom copy ASAP! It's loss is adding immeasurably to the time it is taking me on this project before me.
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phil

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yes, unacceptable, you have had over a month. we're not asking for something special, just to bring back what used to work fine
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In addition to the Copy / Paste fix, you also need active Size and Position indicators that both display, and allow you to set the X, Y, Width & Height of the Pan / Zoom settings. These should have spin buttons that allow you to make fine and course adjustments.

One final thought. Currently the Size and Position rectangle can only be adjusted using the mouse. When the rectangle is selected, you should be able to use "Arrow" keys to move it, and "Shift Arrow" keys to size it.
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The question really is - WHY was the timeline completely re-written? The timeline in v7 worked very well - overall the product was easy to use and a very effective tool. To make such major changes in v8 which removes functionality and makes the timeline less intuitive and far less powerful, is a major step backwards. I am always glad to see well considered incremental improvements to a product, but a complete rewrite which takes the product backwards in usability and functionality is very frustrating.
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As a user of both the Mac and Windows versions of Camtasia, Version 8 looks like it was re-written to be more user-friendly for novices just like the Mac version has always been. The tradeoff, though, is that the Mac version is nowhere near as powerful as the Windows version. It seems like Techsmith, in trying to capture a larger audience with version 8, decided that really useful features for production houses just weren't worth including. Instead, we have fancier callouts and other surface-level improvements that look great on promotional literature but don't address the needs of production houses that rely on powerful editing features.
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Thanks for your quick reply. The workaround works well for this application im using it for, thankyou. Will the copy & paste for pan and zoom get put back in?
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Not sure on that one. I don't know if that got dropped altogether or just deferred until later...
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can you comment when you do find out please
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Timothy Clark

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In Camtasia Studio 8 how do you now copy just the zoom effect to another picture? I have lots of screen shoots that all need the same zoom setting.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Copy zoom effect?.
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Having lots of screen shots may be a issue if you dont have them all on the same group. It is a shame this feature is gone as it worked without any issues, and I used it alot, almost on every project.

Im glad at least there is a workaround as it would be a lteral nightmare to get each clip to match the same zoom effect by typing in the values manualy.
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Has anyone converted a v7 to a v8 and had any zoom-pan issues?

For example, the v7 project would not have grouped media so how does v8 manage zoom-pan that cut across media?
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Please ask them to put it back in version 8! :)
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Randy Schott

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I'm going to change this topic to an "Idea" so that people can upvote it and we can keep track of it better. If you miss this feature, make sure to +1 it at the top of the page.

Again, very sorry we snatched away an important workflow.
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To me, rewriting the timeline from the ground up without the ability to copy/paste keyframes is like redesigning an automobile from the ground up without including a steering wheel. This is such a basic feature, and is the primary reason I do not use Camtasia 8 and have continued to work in Camtasia 7.
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Iv been doing some video editing today, and iv ran into the same problem over and over again.

Example: Im zooming into a person about to perform a fishing cast, I repeat this clip in slow motion, then copy that clip again to extend certain frames for narration. When I extend the clip you can guess what happends, the zoom is lost so it pops back out. In camtasia 7 I simply copied the zoom from the last clip, paste it into the new one, then remove any fade in so as to place it at the beginning of the next clip.

Whats more, I cant even remove the zoom from the clip I would like to copy from as its not there, but some how embedded?
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Yes, this HAS to be put back in. There has to be an easy way to get the same zoom and pan setting from shot to shot. Big step backward here IMO
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One feature I really liked, which seems to be missing in version 8, is the ability to copy and paste the zoom marker on the time line.
I often split up frames, and when I zoom one, I want a seamless transition to the next frame. If the zoom in not exactly the same on both frames you can see a slight jolt in the video. So, in Camtasia 7, I would right click the little blue ball on the timeline and hit copy, then go to the beginning of the next frame and hit paste, and it would put the zoom at the exact position.
But with Camtasia 8, I right click on the blue zoom ball, but there is no option to copy. So I have to try to manually put it at the exact position, but I can never get it just right.
Please bring back this feature.
P.S. Camtasia 8 is awesome

Thanks!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Copy and Past zoom marker no longer available in 8?.
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Really bad, many mistakes in this version: you can't move the selection for zoom using the arrow keys like v7, you can't copy and paste the zoom marker, the properties for each zoom marker are gone, you must "jump" to another section called "visual properties", you can't edit manually the duration for the zoom thansition like v7, you need to zoom in a lot in your timeline to drag the marker and ajust the duration.

You can't use the key DEL to delete a selection in the timeline, you must press the "cut" button, is easier using a key than a button (move your mouse to the cut button every time you need to cut/delete a selection), however you can press control + x, I delete a timeline portion 30 or more times in a 10mins clip, what a waste of time.

The waveform is on bottom line of its track, is not centered. In v7 I drag and drop my intro video into the timeline in front of my main video (recorded), Camtasia moves the video and audio, in v8 is harder to do that, I can't drag and drop in the same track like v7, you must use other track an then move the main video and audio to fit it, again, waste of time.

The main problem here is I speak Spanish, I can't write English very well, I have a book in my mind to write in this section about bad things that I think Camtasia Studio v8 has.
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I use manually inserted zoom-n-pan markers alot, and in version 7, it was easy to copy and paste them between clips - with settings intact.

In version 8, it seems that this isn't possible anymore - forcing me to having to manually create each zoom-n-paan marker, inserting it to each clip. This is a big drawback from my point of view!

I also dislike that zoom-n-pan markers cannot be placed on a separate track as in previous versions. It just feels unnecessary having to open or close animation windows all the time. If left open, the track annoyingly overlaps the track above.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Is it not possible to copy / paste zoom-n-pan markers?.
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I won't be upgrading to Camtasia 8 until this feature is restored.
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In camtasia 7 I could select a zoom key, copy and then paste it to another part of the timeline to match the zoom level. This was especially useful after some kind of cut. However, if I select a keyframe in 8 and copy I copy the whole section of the timeline and not the keyframe.

I have manged to match zoom levels by manually inputting the information from one zoom to the next clip but that is really long winded.

Please would you give us back the ability to copy and paste zoom keys.

Thanks

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Very difficult to copy and paste zooms to match footage.
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I saw more mistakes with the zoom feature. Zooming outside the screen recorded borders? that's crazy, I have an original recorded video (1280 x 720), from that version I need to make two new versions, 480p and a 4:3 version (960 x 720)...when I make the 4:3 version from the 720p is "all OK", but when I tried to make the 480p from the 4:3 version using the existing zoom markers, is all weird.

Is really weird, the zoom screen moves outside the screen recorded, showing a black bars on its sides, yeah, Camtasia are zooming outside the recorded screen. In v7 I make those version with no problems, using the existing zoom markers. In v8 you need to move to a new position each zoom marker that is outside the screen recorded, this makes my job harder.

I don't like that Camtasia v8 shows the entire screen recorded on the live preview panel when you are working with a crop version from the original one, like I said above, If I record a 720 version and I need that original version for my project, there is no problem, but if I make a new version from it, supose 480p, I need to see only that video's portion in the preview panel, not the original 720p version with darker borders.

Like v7, the full screen is showing in the zoom panel, not in the preview panel, now there are two "zoom" panels, the "real" zoom panel, and the preview panel showing a darker image in the borders that the final video will not show.

In v7 is easy to move the screen in the zoom panel and you can see a live preview of the actual size of your project, with not distracting and useless borders in the preview panel when moving like v8, I can see a full preview of my project.

Sorry for my English.

Carlos Berman
www.CursosenHD.com
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I hate to say it, but I am getting ready to uninstall Camtasia 8 and return to version 7.

There are just too many "updates" that have made my usual workflow uh, unworkable.

In less than an hour, here's what I've found.

1. No ability to copy/paste zoom/pan keyframes. HUH?!
2. No ability to copy/paste transitions. Double-HUH?!
3. No ability to move all audio clips (you used to be able to SHIFT+drag to move all clips at once - now it's a one-by-one operation?! Ridiculous.
4. Having to select clips to apply transitions? Why can't you add a transition when the playhead is on a cut, which is of course the actual location for a transition.

Hopefully I'm just missing something and all of these features are there, just undiscoverable.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
How do I copy / paste zoom/pan keyframes and transitions?.
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Hi L P,
Thank you for your feedback. I will attempt to address each of these for you.

1. At this time you cannot copy / paste zoom/pan animations. However, we are hearing from people that this a feature people would like to have. Be assured the Product Manager and development team see your feedback and request to have this ability.

2. The way transitions work now are completely different from previous versions of Camtasia Studio. We did not implement copy/paste for transitions but this doesn't mean we aren't open to having that ability in a future release. Again, the team will see your request here.

3. You can quickly select any media on one or more timelines by clicking and dragging a box around the media to move. This automatically selects the media and you can drag it wherever you would like.

4. You don't have to select media to add a transition. Once you grab a transition in the Transition tab, you can drag it to the timeline and drop it on any media that can have transitions applied to them. Those areas will all appear in yellow as you moved the transition around the timeline.

I hope this helps,
Kelly
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Regarding your answer to 3, this isn't necessary a quick procedure. I often for example need to make changes early in a video, allready having placed lots of clips, effects after that. Then I zoom out the whole project, making reallly sure that I select every single clip, placed on multiple tracks, and then move it to the right. And after the change, select every clip again, and move it back. (or you could use the grouping function, but then that is also two additional steps, as you have to ungroup later on).

So I find this VERY annoying, and is one of the reason why I will rather stick with version 7.
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Agreed. Techsmith makes this sound like a very easy thing to do. It is easy to DESCRIBE, but when you have 50+ items to select on a long time line, it's not simple, its error prone and you need to do it a lot.
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Re: #3 Moving multiple clips at once is now time consuming. Say I'm on the 3rd clip, which I am, and I want to slide everything after it down... Now I have to zoom out, select everything, let the lag catch up, and then move the clips over.
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I agree. If you have a long legnth of videos on the same track and you zoom out to grab them all it is difficult to see if you have grabbed the correct 1st one because you are zoomed out so far, so then you have to zoom back in to be sure you got it and if you didn't you have to start over.
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That is ridiculous. i have the same problem.
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I posted this in another thread without realizing this is the original thread. In case it helps anybody, I'll repost:

To expand on Kelly's answers, here are a couple videos to show how to do #3 and #4:

Dragging multiple clips: http://www.screencast.com/t/vO338kEmD
Adding transitions: http://www.screencast.com/t/QlRkciE7

I hope that helps! :-)
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Steve,
If you have only 4-5 things on your timeline, yes, you can easily do this. But if you have 100+, its not that easy. Frequently, I will need to add new callouts, audio, or other content early in the production and that is quite hard now since I cant copy zoom, extend frames with select time, etc.
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+1 to Brett Hill. I am finding this new process of moving clips around to be cumbersome. And if I can't copy zooms, pans, etc., I need to finish my project in 7. Sadly, I should have waited to get Camtasia 8... I was too excited about the multiple video tracks... I'd rather suffer the 1 video track than fight this time when I can't even import projects.
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Dragging multiple clips. Any project longer that 30 min I have to resort to V7, as to have to zoom right out to see all clips to then manually select far to many individual tracks is not a effective solution. This takes away from the speed enhancements implemented into v8 which is a shame.
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+1 Again. Not bring able to extend a clip or image is a major issue. Everytime you have to add something you have to move the entire timeline? Yikes! I love the multiple tracks, but I don't understand why that caused a major editing to be removed.
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Despite some key things removed, I feel quite positive about the additions that has been made, the key point being they listened to our requests. V8 feels alot more stable and faster.

Im not sure what it would take to add back the copy and paste from Zoom and pan, but would like to see it back in a update like 8.1, not wait till v9.
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I too used this feature quite often, hope to see it return as well.
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Being able to have the exact same zoom and pan from one clip to another is CRUCIAL.

I routinely shoot the video long so I can make multiple cuts instead of extend frames...it gives me more room to adjust things quickly.

I need to be able to add and adjust my zoom and pan both before and after such cuts.

This alone is enough to tempt me to revert to Camtasia 7, despite liking a lot of other features...

It's simply crashing my productivity...causing a snafu with my work and my boss.
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I'm going back to Camtasia 7 too for all my editing and then publish with v8 to get the new features like the Smart Player and other v7 bug fixes in the custom production.
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I'll bet cr was excited to discover the bugs in being able to convert projects from 7 to 8
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I used to be able to copy/paste zooms from one video to the next but I can't see any way to do that now. Do I have to memorize coordinates?

Can't see how to drag an extended frame longer than the default in the case where there are several videos past it on the timeline. I can't find a way to move all the videos down the track together to keep everything in sync.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Camtasia 8 copying zoom and extending frames.
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Those two things are also my headache with the new version!
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Hello,
I have merged this topic into the larger topic about zoom animations.

You can quickly select any media on one or more tracks by clicking and dragging a box around the media to move. This automatically selects the media and you can drag it wherever you would like.

http://www.screencast.com/t/vO338kEmD

With multiple tracks, you can always select your content that is further down the line, group it, then move it up to a different track. Then, extend the frame to the desired duration then realign the group either on the new track or the original track.
Here is a short video to show you this process.
http://screencast.com/t/6VNMMrCLt93

I hope this helps!
Kelly
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Kelly those were informative videos but, I would have to agree with Michelle on copying and pasting zooms-n-pans. Is it possible if you have two or more videos on one or more tracks to copy and paste the zoom-n-pan to another video track or from another separate video that was produced? I hope this makes sense. It would be nice to have the ability to just copy and paste them like it was in version 7. Let us know if this is possible and thank you. Keep up the great work Kelly.
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I agree- I constantly copied and pasted zoom and pans between tracks, and used to to this cool little trick where If I had a fillable text box I'd do a fade transition between the empty text box and the one with text. I thought I was missing something when I tried it in 8. Please consider reinstating this function. I do love the new features though, particularly the grouping feature and enhanced media assets. Looking forward to 8.1 (with copy and paste of zoom keyframes!)
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Another zoom and pan feature I really miss in v8 is the LIST of the zoom/pans at the top of the zoom-pan window as see here in v7:
http://screencast.com/t/9fpGeMd7vN

I use this list to quickly move from zoom to zoom in the final editing. In fact, I'm going to go back to using v7 for all my editing and use v8 only for publishing.

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