Camtasia Studio 8. Copy and paste Pan & Zoom from one clip to another , how?

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How do I copy and paste a pan and zoom from one track to another in Camtasia Studio 8?

I have done this for a long time in v7 for split tracks to retain its current pan and zoom position when a clip continues into the next cut clip. For example I split the video, apply a faster clip speed with pan and zoom, then copy that pan and zoom to the nexp clip which is at normal speed, this way the pan and zoom keeps its position and zoom level?

Thankyou.
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Michelle Schoen

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Yes- I've also determined that I can use both Camtasia 7 and Camtasia 8 together. Last night I edited my video really quickly and efficiently in 7 then brought it into 8 and added some new callouts and animations from the Library to make a really sweet tutorial. So now I get the best of both worlds.
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That would be great! - how do you have both 7 and 8?

That sounds like a great way to work!

I've also found that I will need 7 back for some things - our online learning module tool only supports FLV format, which 8 does not support.
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Michelle Schoen

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Scott, unless you specifically removed Camtasia 7, you should have both 7 and 8 running simultaneously on your computer. Camtasia 8 does not overwrite Camtasia 7.
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Scott Leggo

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Thanks Michelle - I've got my IT department looking at it for me. Best of both worlds!
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Fred Grover, Champion

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One thing I would like to add to Michelle's comment is that the PowerPoint Add-In will be used by whichever version you installed last. For example if CS 8 was installed first and then you install CS 7 with the PowerPoint Add-In Option it would default to CS 7 and not CS 8 and vice versa. This is just from my experience and thought I would share it with everyone.
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Has anyone using 8 tested to see if a project is backwards compatible with 7?
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Mike Curtis, Employee

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Hi Scott,
No, you cannot open CS 8 projects in earlier versions of Camtasia Studio.
Mike Curtis
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A work-around is to produce an avi file from CS8 and bring it into CS7. See the following for more uses of avi files.
http://techsmith.custhelp.com/app/ans...

" Some things to take note of however before producing the AVI: The edits made so far will now be permanent. Callouts, titles, transitions – all of these edits will be part of the produced file and they cannot be changed after the fact. Markers, Hotspots and Quizes will have to be redone on the new Timeline because they will not carry over in the produced AVI."

So, I produce an avi, revert back to the earlier version, and complete with the markers...

This has worked for me to avoid some bugs in CS7 to revert to CS6.
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Alex Sherman

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Not having the ability to copy and paste a zoom and pan is really proving to be difficult. Would really like to see this feature come back.
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Oh..my god..!! in just 1 hour i just uninstalled it and go back to my ver 7. pls bring back

1. copy/paste zoom/pan keyframes.
2. copy/paste transitions
3. Ability to move all audio clips
How can you missed this very important workflow features that people used to it for a very long time.!!?? other than that i can see some excellent improvements. especially the new techsmith codec..wow it just reduces my files more than half.
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agree
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mat red

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WOW the group feature was EXCELLENT..i just saw your answer..the group feature make the copy paste unnecessary. and it save me a lot of time. thank you :)
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No, not really. It only makes copy/paste unnecessary if the clips you want to group are right next to each other. I frequently copy/paste keyframes between segments of video that are all around the timeline. Grouping them together is not a viable option, and this is such a basic feature that I can't believe Techsmith released Version 8 without it.
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I upgraded and now I will downgrade I thought they would deal with more important things such as having callouts move across the screen or transitions going from pure blackness to the video.
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agree
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Hi Tom,
I'm sorry you are disappointed with the new Camtasia Studio.

However, I just want you to know that you are able to do both of these tasks with the new version.

You can quickly add an animation to any media to have it move.
You can also add a transition to a clip that is preceded by nothing on the timeline which will give you the look you desire. You no longer have to have transitions only between two clips.

I hope this helps!
Kelly
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so can we get an answer (yes or no) if techsmith will be fixing the copy zoom issue? what about the ability to slide all of the files at once by hitting the shift button like in V7?
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I found the suggested fix inadequate. Not only did this not apply the zoom across each clip, when I ungrouped the clips, it caused the focus to go completely random - scattering the zoom and screen position of each and every clip. The copy and paste was a simple and effective method. Whatever this group/ungroup suggestion is I won't be using it in the future. Not my first problem with v8, hardly expect it to be my last. May recommend my company moves away from techsmith products if this the quality we can expect in the future. Work fast, 50-100 licenses here.
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I was sure I was doing something wrong when I couldn't figure out how to copy and paste the zoom in v8. This is such a basic efficiency/productivity feature that I didn't presume for an instant that this feature had been removed--I only thought that I didn't know how to do it.

How did something as simple as "copy and paste" of such a key feature ever get dropped from the list?
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I know that you will fix this and yes, I understand your explanation about building this from the ground up. We need this fixed as soon as possible. Some persons purchased Camtasia 8 for the first time (my work installed C8 after my recommendation) and do not have the luxury of going back to C7. But even then...how do I tell them .. Ok record in C7, pan and zoom in that program and then import into C8 to do the other stuff. This is not an enhancement or an idea; it has been part of your program that has made your product "top dog" and made our videos editing productive. Guys. this is a productivity issue affecting our jobs. It takes so much time to do the workarounds. Please, Please please make this work.
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If it was only copying and pasting that is messing up workflow that would be great, but, it's a dozen things that were deemed unnecessary in the new build. We can learn to do all of these things eventually, however, so many things that didn't need fixing got dropped.
Maybe it's a good thing that CS 8 conflicts with some other essential software on my machine, I've stopped using it.
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So far I am also ready to install V7 again. Copy/Paste of Zoom Keyframes is crucial for me. I also liked it better when there was an undo button...
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If you've upgraded to 8.02 CMS, you'll find that they brought back the undo button.
I agree with you, some of these things did not need changing
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I hope the current product manager gets fired - to sign off on these changes and remove features without consideration of the needs of the users is a very fast way to destroy customer loyalty.

Up until now, Techsmith had very loyal customers. This loyalty is now being very severely tested - how quickly and effectively you are able to rectify this will determine the fate of this otherwise brilliant product. Right now it is effectively useless and I regret upgrading to v8 - it has already cost me a huge amount of time and frustration and is impacting on my clients too.
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This is the worst upgrade in the history of upgrades. I have been producing a movie a day for the past two years and now am wondering how to do SIMPLE TASKS like dropping a clip into a movie without it OVERLAPPING the movie.. I don't need a movie ontop of a movie..
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I completely agree with Simon and Kit. I can't understand how any product manager, or a software test group manager, would release this software to manufacturing when a critical element of the user interface (UI), i.e., the timeline feature a) is evidently still in an "alpha development" state, and b) has a user-hostile UI like this. I agree with everyone else in this message thread who is complaining loudly that the timeline feature in version 8 is JUST AWFUL compared to version 7. It is awful.

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I've never worked for a software house that would consider this level of development "good enough" to release it to manufacturing. The top-level managers I've worked for would, without remorse, demote or even fire the division managers who were responsible for releasing an inadequately developed UI like this. That's a very harsh statement I know, but it's true. There is no other way to say it: this is simply unprofessional. Based upon my 30+ years of programming experience I'd say the negative feedback being levied against this release should serve as a sober wake-up call to the managers at TechSmith--and particularly for the manager who signed off on the timeline UI for this version.

Believe it or not, I'm not saying this to be a jerk; I'm saying it because I believe an earnest reality check is necessary at this point for the product managers at TechSmith. Whether they choose to acknowledge it or not, the company's reputation has been tarnished by this release. As a consumer, it is evident to me that TechSmith believes it is okay to release inadequately-developed software to the public. It is not.

If TechSmith continues to release inadequately developed products like this one, the company is doomed to failure. Period. I've seen it happen many times over the years. Consumers do not tolerate, nor do they develop brand loyalty for products they deem inadequate; they expect/demand a certain minimum level of quality and utility, and rightly so.

So I'm hoping TechSmith will do more than just a cursory review of this failure and then carry on "business as usual." That is a recipe for failure, IMHO. I'm hoping there is a serious evaluation of, and systemic improvements made to, the company's quality control mechanism so as to ensure this sort of quality failure cannot reoccur in the future.
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I agree with Simon, Kit and Jim. To your loyal customers, your actions are speaking louder than words. The minute you realize that some BASIC key functionality that your loyal customers were so accustom to having, did not make it in the version; you should not have released YET.

Is it true that you went for a broader market (to appeal to a larger audience) while dumping on those that have been loyally with you for years. It sure looks that way. This is not the same productive tool as Version 7.

How does your own team like the product? You cannot tell me that they love this product. Basic functionality is missing or it is so poorly designed with items such as: we no longer can use our keyboard but the mouse only, that we have to go to two screens to finish working with an "enhancement" item (before you had everything on one screen). All of this extra clicking, All of this extra work around . Even your enhancements screens were not well thought out. Where are your "usability studies" before this was released?

What happened here? How did this get the approval to be released? Who did your testing? Did they test a full project? The employee that did the tutorials, surely he/she had to notice the differences.. Did he/she use Version 7 to do their work? They had to have... There is no way you can tell me that they used Version 8 from start to finish.

To say that you will escalate this to "an ideal" (previous post) is really absurd (no easy way to say that). To say that you will "merge" (another previous post) this so it can be a larger topic to get notice. I am at lost for words.

This was a mistake from start to finish. why? 1) Persons who did your re-design did not include BASIC items and 2) those that did the testing, did not report correctly; and 3) those that made the decision to release such an inferior product; will cost you customers and their trust. I am still holding out hope that this will be fixed. I too have both versions for MAC and PC and I just cannot believe this product was released. You should have waited a few more months to release. It might have saved you this PR nightmare.

What we don't know is what is going on behind the scenes: Maybe you already have fired or demoted those persons responsible, maybe you are on top of this? Maybe you have to hire new guys to re-write the previous guys work? We are hoping this will be fixed. You took our money and we gladly gave it to you. How are you going to compensate us for hanging on? for still being loyal?

Someone's previous analogy works for me:
If I trade my car to get a newer one, you might expect the newer one to enhance on the previous car. Even if it does not enhance, the same BASIC items like a steering wheel, brakes, gas pedal, motor, wheels have to be working for me to use that car. If those basic items are missing... you cannot sell the car. Who cares if stereo is a great sound system or an individual DVD player sits behind both front seats. Who cares if car can hug the road with the best road suspension. If the car does not have a steering wheel; I cannot drive the car. You should not be able to sell that car.

We, your loyal customers, are the ones that jumped at purchasing your Version 8 We were thinking... Version 7 was a great improvement just imagine what version 8 would hold. Boy were we wrong. How could you use us as your TESTERS. Do you even consider us to be your loyal customers? Please bring back the BASIC things that either missed this release or was made less intuitive, less productive, and not user-friendly. You need to know that some of us have to face our bosses... you don't. This product should have never been released at this time.
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I will make a positive post here after my scathing review above.

1. There are some major bugs in this release. We know that. The easy functionality of dropping and Camtasia knowing what to do is gone with this version.

2. HOWEVER, my zoom looks really smooth. There are more effects and it's easier to move things around now.

3. AND the biggest advantage is that I can do HOUR videos and edit them and produce them whereas before I didn't have enough memory or the file was too large. Now, it's not. So they did fix that problem.

Just a few more to go and I'd say Number 8 will be great.
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Ben Kanspedos

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So, Camtasia - Is this zoom feature something you think you will include in this version someday soon?

Thanks
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Joseph Schrag

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Back to version 7. Please fix re-add these features quickly!
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Daniel Park

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I'm astounded by the vitriol on this page.

TSC ditched the awful DirectShow technology and built something very remarkable from the ground up in an industry they basically defined. I've been with the product since its inception, and I've now written five (going on six) editions of the premiere book on this application.

While I agree that perhaps a few things could have been kept to ease the transition for those who were used to v7, I'm sorry, but v8 is the best release of Camtasia Studio they've ever done. I'm amazed at the massive leap forward in technology. And despite what some above have said of its "beta" status, I actually find it pretty damned polished considering the underlying engine is almost a total redo, and certainly far more stable than its predecessors.

I too would like to see the ability to copy and paste of zoom points back in the product. In the grand scheme of things, I don't consider it an immediate dealbreaker, though different people obviously use the product in different ways. TSC actually IS one of the companies out there who listen to their customers, but the development of updates takes a bit of time. But I'm sure they're listening, and planning accordingly.

As for those breaking out the torches and the pitchforks, and actively wishing to destroy the livelihoods of talented developers and product managers who had the audacity to prioritize a different feature set than the exact one you had in mind, I have two words for you: Grow up. Have enough respect to engage in courteous discourse, and the patience to let this team of hardworking people assimilate your feedback and make adjustments.

If pastable zoom points are a dealbreaker for you and your own personal workflow, fine, go back to v7 for a while. Or even better: inquire about becoming a beta tester and contribute your (respectfully worded) feedback while the product is still in development. But for the love of god, quit stomping around in a huff as if pastable zooms were your birthright.

Daniel Park
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Daniel Park

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Appreciate the thoughtful response, although I'm not sure the comparison between the awesome though slightly unpolished v8 and the unmitigated disaster of the Edsel is an apt one.

I look at it thusly. If given a choice between a revolutionary and an evolutionary upgrade, I'll happily take the former, with faith that any kinks that arise will be worked out in time. This is precisely why I don't whip out my credit card the moment Microsoft or Apple release a brand spanking new OS. Because no matter how much effort and testing goes into a major new endeavor, there's invariably the occasional oopsie that pops up as soon as it's released into the wild and sees real-world use.

But it's not as if the previous version suddenly stopped working. So if you find a workflow-breaking kink in the new system, certainly report it and request a fix, and then (for a little while), go back to the system you were happy with all along. (A quick side-note... pastable zooms have only been around since v7 -- how quickly we become spoiled!). If enough people share your sentiment (which certainly seems to be the case here), have faith that you'll soon be back to the latest and greatest with your workflow intact.

cheers, d.
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Daniel, I was one of those that spouted off (not ever asking for anyone's job though) and after re-reading my response I was a bit harsh. I don't mean to be. I guess there is a backlash when anyone offers a piece of software/application to a "paying" customer and makes them their product "beta-testers".

I am sorry for my tirade. I have full confidence that this problem will be solved. I just wanted it sooner than later because my productivity was affected. I was frustrated that day. I had to blow past a deadline in my project since I was struggling with how to make something work in Camtasia 8. Yes, I ended up going back to Camtasia 7 (my personal copy) to get something done. (In other words, I ended up taking my project home, doing the work at home so I can produce something for my job.). I have purchased my own personal copies for years. Yes, I personally purchased Camtasia 8 too. Just know, those in my work place do not have that option of going back to Camtasia 7. They purchased Camtasia 8 on my recommendation.

I will patiently wait for the fix. I too have been with your products for years, both from MAC and PC. I still love your products.

There is a mild offense with you calling us spoiled when using your products. You made us spoiled. You made us love your products. You sold us a product that we expected would work like the previous, It does not. This is not said in a negative tone, it is just a fact of life. We had to accept that.

Yes it might be a better product, however, how would we, your customers ever know this or can we truly appreciate all of the hard work that went into this. Only "Techsmith employees" are "privy" to this. We, your customers, are not there behind-the-scenes. We are not there when the "decision to re-write the program" was the BETTER OPTION than trying to continue programming on the old one. There was no "education" to us, the consumers of your product. So please truly forgive us for really not understanding your position.

Daniel, do your previous statements make us feel any better? (you called us Spoiled, you also stated: " for the love of ...., quit huffing around like pasteable zooms were your birthright", or "Grow Up". Do these statements help the situation?

I personally do not want to make this a "tit" for "tat". I love your products and I never called for anyone's job. Please know that it did affect my job and my productivity.

Let me say KUDOs to those programmers that really worked hard on this product. Some of those "great" features are being overlooked. I am sorry that this one thing is overshadowing your great efforts on all other items. I am not sure why there was such a rush to release this product until further testing was done. Again, I don't know your reasons or decisions. Beta testers is a great idea. Just don't ask me to pay for the product if I do "beta test".

PS. I have never stopped recommending your products.

Waiting patiently
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Daniel Park

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Many thanks for the thoughtful response. As a small point of clarification, I am not currently a TechSmith employee, and indeed, haven't been one for nearly a decade. This allows me to express my feelings on the matter with a bit more candor than any actual employee would probably feel at liberty to do.

best regards, Daniel Park
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Mrs.Notetaker

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Thanks for the clarification. I too stand by my candor and apology.

Best regards,
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Daniel Park

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Oh, and as a second point of clarification, it appears I made a poor word choice with "spoiled." I wasn't referring to it as a negative, in the sense of a "spoiled child." I mean only that we get used to new advances very quickly, and come to rely upon them as if they'd always been there. When I said, "How quickly we become spoiled..." I was referring to the collective "we," which includes me. Apologies if it came across any other way.
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I agree that I definitely need the ability to copy the zoom setting from one clip to the next.
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Hi Charles.

I was wondering if you have tried using grouping. You can apply animations and zoom levels to a group instead of each clip individually.

Watch this short tutorial if you are interested:
http://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-cam...

Let me know if this helps.
-Josh
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Perhaps if we had the ability to copy zoom/pan attributes, if not an actual copy and paste of the zoom? Maybe this would fit with Camtasia 8's new engine? if I could copy the attributes from one zoom, then paste into another zoom I manually placed, I could have a very similar workflow.
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This missing functionality is slowing me down big time!

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