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I have done this for a long time in v7 for split tracks to retain its current pan and zoom position when a clip continues into the next cut clip. For example I split the video, apply a faster clip speed with pan and zoom, then copy that pan and zoom to the nexp clip which is at normal speed, this way the pan and zoom keeps its position and zoom level?
A number of the changes I'm noticing using Camtasia8 look pretty, and I bet they demonstrate really well in the sales environment, but when you're actually using the product and trying to tweak things in detail they are frustrating and slower than before.
Please prioritize this fix above everything else. Seriously.
Oh- on the firing of the manager...I second that! How can you remove copy and paste functionalities these days??
I was just about to purchase my own copy of Camtasia Studio 8 when I came across this topic. No copy/paste of zoom keyframes? You're kidding?!
Not only is my order on hold until this feature is returned but I will also email all my clients with CS7 to not upgrade. It's probably the most use feature for me!
Please, please put it back!
update 12/17/2012 - Grouping does work well. I have now added grouping to my regular workflow and don't have as much of an issue with this any more. Key point is that once you group them, you don't ungroup. This isn't a detriment, though. Grouping can give a cleaner timeline. Chalk this one up to 'retraining' cost of transitioning to version 8.
@Ion and @Charles, if you absolutely must apply the same zoom to two disconnected cuts, the way I found to do this is to double click on the first zoom, note the values for the zoom (see the screen-clipping), create a new zoom on the second cut, and then set the values from the zoom in the first cut. It is awkward, but it works. This shows that it certainly is technically possible to copy/paste a zoom, so certainly hope that TechSmith adds the feature back in. However, at this point, it no longer slows me down.
I really like Cam8. In many ways it is more intuitive than Cam7. This is the weirdest thing that I found. (Cam8 does crash more than Cam7, and in some cases, it completely destroys the project file, so it has proved useful to me to save often. Josh, other TechSmith employees, if it would help, I can send a corrupted Cam8 project so you can hopefully fix this.)
Feels like this is the buggiest Camtasia yet :-(
I think I'd honestly be happier if you said "we forgot" than "we chose not to include this".
I always worry when I suddenly realise that the people making the software, appear not to have used their own software in any meaningful way...
Thank you all for your feedback! Keep it coming.
V8 is now more stable - but within 3 days it destroyed one of the 5 projects I created, no longer recognizing it. Fortunately it was only a small one.
Not being able to copy zooms and other effects is a major pain, but I could probably live with it, if the grouping suggestion listed above was working reasonably well.
But A it doesn't and B there are too many other issues which make working with V8 much less efficient and more risky - at least for me.
To clarify: I am using Camtasia only BECAUSE of its effects, especially zoom and pan and call-outs. Otherwise it would be just a video editor and screen recorder and there are better video editors available.
Making it hard or impossible to work with the functions which make Camtasia what it is, is a huge let-down for me.
I can not first finish all editing and then add effects as described above. That's just not a realistic workflow for me.
I must be able to make changes after everything is ready, based on reviewing the finished video, to synchronize effects with audio or based on feedback by others or based on not liking something when looking at it again.
1: I find the fact that all the effects are now hidden and I have to open them up to see them when editing frustrating. Lots of extra clicking and less overview. I don't
2: I have to select a clip to split it instead of just positioning the head and then cutting. While this has some potential advantage, the reality is I have to move my mouse around much more than ever before.
3: When adding a call-out I can not see it - making it very difficult to position it. I have to move the head before I can see the call-out - only then can I correctly position it. A lot of extra work again.
4: When reopening a zoom effect I can not re-position it easily in 8 - the zoom preview window is gone. To get it you have to realize that Camtasia now jumps to a different tab rather than to the Zoom Tab when you double click on the zoom effect. Again more clicks. (click to view the hidden zoom, double-click on the zoom, then click on Zoom Tab to view zoom preview window re-position it)
5: If you zoom a clip and then split it and remove the zoom from the first part of the clip there is no easy way to remove it from the 2nd part of the clip. Although this does not seem to happen all the time.
6: If you groups some clips and then zoom and then want to add another cut or adjust some speed of parts of that group you are in trouble.
7: You can not copy zoom and pan effects
8: I just grouped three clips, then added zoom, then removed the zoom, and suddenly the first two clips no longer fitted into the screen - they were way smaller than the preview window.
If I could even group items, apply the zoom and then ungroup them and all clips would remember their settings, it would be great. But a workaround which causes this many problems is not a workaround at all.
V8 might look somewhat cooler - but I prefer working functionality.
I don't mind changing my workflow to accommodate improvements - but the only useful improvement I have found for my needs is that I can move multiple clips together.
That function alone made me want to upgrade to 8. Not the fancy looking interface.
I was looking for ways to improve my workflow and to speed up tasks - not to have extra work.
Unfortunately in 8 there is no way to have all the content move from the right to fill the empty space after a deletion: a simple and extremely useful feature in many video editors.
If you are happy with 7, only upgrade after seriously evaluating 8: For me the few nicer functions do not make up for the extra problems, the much more complex and time intensive workflows and the potential of ruining my projects (Frequent saving is not enough - you will have to back up the changes as otherwise the project is useless when you try to open it, and all the work is gone, regardless how often you saved it).
If you have never used 7, this will not affect you as much - you will simply be missing something that's not there - not something you had before.
But I won't hold my breath waiting for a fix. After 8 months of requests by customers there is not even a potential time line other than "a future release" (how long is a piece of string?) provided for restoring these functions.
Looks like they have much bigger problems to solve before they can start restoring functions which were lost when upgrading to 8. I'll give 8 another try maybe in 6 months or so - there are too many issues to be resolved even in the very latest version to hope for anything earlier than that.
I won't give up on Camtasia - it's too good a tool for what it does. But it looks as if V8 seriously went off the rails, if I am still encountering this many problems this far down the track.
You would think a basic function like this would have been worked out much sooner or are we going to have to pay for the next version to get it???
I already wrote I won't give up on Camtasia - but I have given up on 8 for the 2nd time and will wait until it works properly.
I was spending way to much time in 8 performing simple tasks which take up much less time in 7. I will try 8 again in 6 - 12 months.
I am sure they are working feverishly on improving 8.
But a statement: "Will be included in a future release" by any software company means simply that the task has not even been scheduled yet.
So they have no timeline when they can release it and can not give you even a general idea of when the feature might become available.
So don't hold your breath - it will take at least 6 months - if not much more.
Of course I'd love to be proven wrong. If all the 7 features work properly again and the new functionality of 8 are added, it would be a great product
But please Techsmith, do not hide the effects and animations in little drop down tabs.
They are the most important functions of Camtasia and make Camtasia what it is and what differentiates it from other video editors. I have to see all effects when editing - and can't guess where they are or click little tabs all the time.
At the very least add a function to ALWAYS show them for ALL clips and turn that function on by default, so users can hide it if they want to.
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