Camtasia Studio 8. Copy and paste Pan & Zoom from one clip to another , how?

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How do I copy and paste a pan and zoom from one track to another in Camtasia Studio 8?

I have done this for a long time in v7 for split tracks to retain its current pan and zoom position when a clip continues into the next cut clip. For example I split the video, apply a faster clip speed with pan and zoom, then copy that pan and zoom to the nexp clip which is at normal speed, this way the pan and zoom keeps its position and zoom level?

Thankyou.
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Daniel

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Charles Welford

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Yes, grouping the clips and then applying the zoom works!
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Another voice added to the "WTH" how can you take away such basic functionality.

A number of the changes I'm noticing using Camtasia8 look pretty, and I bet they demonstrate really well in the sales environment, but when you're actually using the product and trying to tweak things in detail they are frustrating and slower than before.
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This feature would save me some time. Please add my vote.
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Brian Spears

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Adding my vote to fixing the copy/paste with zoom. It's excruciating to edit videos without it.

Please prioritize this fix above everything else. Seriously.
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Add me to this list! It's been a little while since I upgraded from 7 to 8 and just now trying a new project in 8 and couldn't figure out why I can't copy and paste a zoom-n-pan...sucks!

FIX ASAP!

Oh- on the firing of the manager...I second that! How can you remove copy and paste functionalities these days??
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I have recommended Camtasia Studio to all my clients that have a need for screen capture. I get them to buy a licence to install the software on one of their own pc's so when I come to create demo or training videos for them it's all legal and above board. Over the past ten years I must have been instrumental in twenty or more such purchases but I have never had a need to buy it myself, though - until now.

I was just about to purchase my own copy of Camtasia Studio 8 when I came across this topic. No copy/paste of zoom keyframes? You're kidding?!

Not only is my order on hold until this feature is returned but I will also email all my clients with CS7 to not upgrade. It's probably the most use feature for me!

Please, please put it back!
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Eric White

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Add me to this list too! This was a regular part of my workflow also. There are other aspects of 8 that I like. It is a more regular interface. I can understand inadvertently leaving out this feature - development is a complex process. But now that you have heard how important this is to so many customers, please fix!

update 12/17/2012 - Grouping does work well. I have now added grouping to my regular workflow and don't have as much of an issue with this any more. Key point is that once you group them, you don't ungroup. This isn't a detriment, though. Grouping can give a cleaner timeline. Chalk this one up to 'retraining' cost of transitioning to version 8.

-Eric
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Matching scale from one clip to the next is a must. Please add back in.
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I'm new to Camtasia, and I already miss this feature. Had to make multiple cuts and would very much like the ability to copy and paste zoom keyframes. In the meantime I'll try grouping and see how it works for me as others here seem to havehad hit-or-miss success.
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Eric, Jeff, Erin and others:

If you are looking for efficient ways to use grouping, check out this short video tutorial: http://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-cam...

The key is to not scale/zoom until your cuts are done.

Thank you for your feedback!
-Josh
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Thanks Josh. I had seen the video and it is helpful. Your right. The key thing to remember is not to zoom before the grouping. Unfortunately the auto zooming has usually don't that.
I copy and past zoom data from one clip to another would be a a nice update.
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Yep, that's great, but it still doesn't help me copy and paste keyframes from one point on the timeline to another (regardless of whether they are on a single clip or across a group). For example, I create a zoom 'a' at a particular point on the timeline. It lasts ten seconds. I then restore the frame to its original size. Now I create zoom 'b' which lasts for a few more seconds before I again revert to the full frame. Now I want to create another zoom identical to zoom 'a'. How do I do that?
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Ian, I think the way you have to do it is to cut the single clip into part 'a', part 'b', and then the remaining part after 'b' (let's call it 'c'), then designate 'a' and 'c' as a group, then apply the zoom to that group. I agree it is not as easy or intuitive as in CS7 but I believe it is at least possible to accomplish it.
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Thanks for the video on grouping. That clarifies some points for me. @Josh, it didn't really matter to me whether I zoom before or after my cuts are done. If I zoom before cutting, then Cam8 automatically applies the zoom level to the newly created cut. If, however, I need to zoom after cutting, then it is necessary to group and then zoom.

@Ion and @Charles, if you absolutely must apply the same zoom to two disconnected cuts, the way I found to do this is to double click on the first zoom, note the values for the zoom (see the screen-clipping), create a new zoom on the second cut, and then set the values from the zoom in the first cut. It is awkward, but it works. This shows that it certainly is technically possible to copy/paste a zoom, so certainly hope that TechSmith adds the feature back in. However, at this point, it no longer slows me down.

I really like Cam8. In many ways it is more intuitive than Cam7. This is the weirdest thing that I found. (Cam8 does crash more than Cam7, and in some cases, it completely destroys the project file, so it has proved useful to me to save often. Josh, other TechSmith employees, if it would help, I can send a corrupted Cam8 project so you can hopefully fix this.)

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Just wondering if you have updated to 8.0.4 yet? It released yesterday and addressed some corrupt file save issues. This post has the full details:
http://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmi...

Updating may actually allow you to open the corrupted file, although I assume that won't help you because you probably have moved on. And any time customers want to submit tickets to the support team, we appreciate looking at corrupted files, crash dumps, and all of that good stuff.
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I did. After installing, I was working on project that hung 4x. In this case, I was delighted to find that after restarting Cam, it prompted me there was unsaved file and loaded it perfectly. I lost nothing. Graceful recovery achieved! yeah.

I will say that I've been avoiding using 8 for a while but in the last project, did so and with recent updates, am going to keep using it. It is much better in many dimensions and has the feel of a more mature produce. But please do bring back the cut and paste that is the topic of this thread.
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I just updated to 8.0.4. Still crashes. I'll submit a support ticket.
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Carolyn

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Eric - thank you so much! After searching forever, your screen shot and info above was just what I needed to know. You've saved me hours of work. Really appreciate it.
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Well, I wouldn call that a copy paste at all. Just the ability to create the same zoom/pan.
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Right click, copy. Right click, paste. Somehow I prefer the old way ;-) Thanks for the suggestions though.
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I too will be migrating back to Camtasia 7 (or Premiere). Having to constantly manually enter numbers into the Visual Properties screen is making me crazy. With each Camtasia update (1,2,3,now 4) I keep hoping to see this fixed.

Feels like this is the buggiest Camtasia yet :-(
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I'm not sure that you can call copy/paste a feature it's pretty basic.

I think I'd honestly be happier if you said "we forgot" than "we chose not to include this".

I always worry when I suddenly realise that the people making the software, appear not to have used their own software in any meaningful way...
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I've been trialling camtasia 8 as 7 will not work on windows 8. I've got to say that I find it a lot less intuitive. I know it takes a while to get used to new interfaces but I remember finding 7 extremely intuitive, unfortunately I cannot say the same about 8. The fact that it is no longer easy to insert or extend timelines without all the call outs automatically repositioning is outrageous. The fact that I can no longer copy and paste a zoom has added a vast amount of extra time to my videos. I cannot believe these features have been removed. It seems to me that you needed to get 8 out quickly because of windows 8 and you really haven't put enough development time into it. I'm very disappointed with what you have developed, I cannot go back to 7 because it will no longer work on my computer but I don't feel I can buy 8 until you fix these short comings. I will find a windows seven computer instead and put camtasia 7 on it. I am that disappointed.
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One more reason not to upgrade to Win 8. But seriously, why does Camtasia keep on selling such a crappy product. I've returned my V8 months ago.
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It's really not. I said upon its release that CS8 is the best release of the product they've ever done, and I stand by that assessment. For the record, they took nearly two years to release CS8, significantly more time than any whole number release that came before it. But revolutionary upgrades such as this are obviously at much stronger risk of being panned by those who "just liked the way it worked before." CS8 is incredibly powerful and flexible for those who learn to leverage it.

Mark: Just group your callouts with the video track before you move or extend it, and you'll be golden...

I do agree that copy and paste of animation (zoom) points should be back in the product, and while understanding in the beginning, I'm actually a tad disconcerted after having seen four maintenance releases come and go without its inclusion. I know it's no small deal to implement, but c'mon y'all...

regards, Daniel
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I concur with Daniel that this is not a crappy product. I really do like your products.

I agree that a few items need to be put back into the product (and sooner than later). I also concur with Daniel's statement about being understandable in the beginning and being a tad disconcerted about how long it is taking to get these items back into the product. Does the timeline have to be completely rewritten to put back some of these item's functionality? The not knowing is "killing" us. Just tell us you are working on it and we can be patient.

Sue
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Official Response
Just a quick update on this feature: The current plan is to include this in a future release. Keep an eye on this thread for an announcement when it is released.

Thank you all for your feedback! Keep it coming.
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Daniel,

We are planning to release this as a minor version, so it would be a free upgrade to version 8 customers. Great question!
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And a great answer :-)
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Thankyou Jessie, that is good news.
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Thank you Jessie. Appreciate the news. I look forward to it.
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Any updates on when we can copy a zoom across multiple clips?
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Great news!
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I downloaded 8 again three days ago after buying initially 8 months. Back then I immediately switched back to V7 due to the many crashes.

V8 is now more stable - but within 3 days it destroyed one of the 5 projects I created, no longer recognizing it. Fortunately it was only a small one.

Not being able to copy zooms and other effects is a major pain, but I could probably live with it, if the grouping suggestion listed above was working reasonably well.

But A it doesn't and B there are too many other issues which make working with V8 much less efficient and more risky - at least for me.

To clarify: I am using Camtasia only BECAUSE of its effects, especially zoom and pan and call-outs. Otherwise it would be just a video editor and screen recorder and there are better video editors available.

Making it hard or impossible to work with the functions which make Camtasia what it is, is a huge let-down for me.

I can not first finish all editing and then add effects as described above. That's just not a realistic workflow for me.

I must be able to make changes after everything is ready, based on reviewing the finished video, to synchronize effects with audio or based on feedback by others or based on not liking something when looking at it again.

1: I find the fact that all the effects are now hidden and I have to open them up to see them when editing frustrating. Lots of extra clicking and less overview. I don't

2: I have to select a clip to split it instead of just positioning the head and then cutting. While this has some potential advantage, the reality is I have to move my mouse around much more than ever before.

3: When adding a call-out I can not see it - making it very difficult to position it. I have to move the head before I can see the call-out - only then can I correctly position it. A lot of extra work again.

4: When reopening a zoom effect I can not re-position it easily in 8 - the zoom preview window is gone. To get it you have to realize that Camtasia now jumps to a different tab rather than to the Zoom Tab when you double click on the zoom effect. Again more clicks. (click to view the hidden zoom, double-click on the zoom, then click on Zoom Tab to view zoom preview window re-position it)

5: If you zoom a clip and then split it and remove the zoom from the first part of the clip there is no easy way to remove it from the 2nd part of the clip. Although this does not seem to happen all the time.

6: If you groups some clips and then zoom and then want to add another cut or adjust some speed of parts of that group you are in trouble.

7: You can not copy zoom and pan effects

8: I just grouped three clips, then added zoom, then removed the zoom, and suddenly the first two clips no longer fitted into the screen - they were way smaller than the preview window.

If I could even group items, apply the zoom and then ungroup them and all clips would remember their settings, it would be great. But a workaround which causes this many problems is not a workaround at all.

V8 might look somewhat cooler - but I prefer working functionality.

I don't mind changing my workflow to accommodate improvements - but the only useful improvement I have found for my needs is that I can move multiple clips together.

That function alone made me want to upgrade to 8. Not the fancy looking interface.

I was looking for ways to improve my workflow and to speed up tasks - not to have extra work.

Unfortunately in 8 there is no way to have all the content move from the right to fill the empty space after a deletion: a simple and extremely useful feature in many video editors.

If you are happy with 7, only upgrade after seriously evaluating 8: For me the few nicer functions do not make up for the extra problems, the much more complex and time intensive workflows and the potential of ruining my projects (Frequent saving is not enough - you will have to back up the changes as otherwise the project is useless when you try to open it, and all the work is gone, regardless how often you saved it).

If you have never used 7, this will not affect you as much - you will simply be missing something that's not there - not something you had before.

But I won't hold my breath waiting for a fix. After 8 months of requests by customers there is not even a potential time line other than "a future release" (how long is a piece of string?) provided for restoring these functions.

Looks like they have much bigger problems to solve before they can start restoring functions which were lost when upgrading to 8. I'll give 8 another try maybe in 6 months or so - there are too many issues to be resolved even in the very latest version to hope for anything earlier than that.

I won't give up on Camtasia - it's too good a tool for what it does. But it looks as if V8 seriously went off the rails, if I am still encountering this many problems this far down the track.

:(
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8 months ago this was posted and there is still not a fix.

You would think a basic function like this would have been worked out much sooner or are we going to have to pay for the next version to get it???
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SIrs, Please refer to Jessie Lathaie's comment. View the entire thread. She already stated this will be fixed in a future release and no we will not have to pay for it. No need to give up on Camtasia. It will be fixed. We just have to wait patiently.
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Do you know if it is fixed yet?
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Hi Mrs Notetaker -

I already wrote I won't give up on Camtasia - but I have given up on 8 for the 2nd time and will wait until it works properly.

I was spending way to much time in 8 performing simple tasks which take up much less time in 7. I will try 8 again in 6 - 12 months.

I am sure they are working feverishly on improving 8.

But a statement: "Will be included in a future release" by any software company means simply that the task has not even been scheduled yet.

So they have no timeline when they can release it and can not give you even a general idea of when the feature might become available.

So don't hold your breath - it will take at least 6 months - if not much more.

Of course I'd love to be proven wrong. If all the 7 features work properly again and the new functionality of 8 are added, it would be a great product

But please Techsmith, do not hide the effects and animations in little drop down tabs.

They are the most important functions of Camtasia and make Camtasia what it is and what differentiates it from other video editors. I have to see all effects when editing - and can't guess where they are or click little tabs all the time.

At the very least add a function to ALWAYS show them for ALL clips and turn that function on by default, so users can hide it if they want to.
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I have taken to editing in 7 and importing into 8 if I wish to add features not available on 7. Someone missed the boat here, going from a simple, useful interface to this one, which lacks usability and makes people on a deadline (me) regret the $150 upgrade fee.
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PLEASE add back the COPY ZOOM feature from Camtasia Studio 7 to Camtasia Studio 8.0.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
COPY ZOOM!.

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