Camtasia Studio 8: Features removed and/or lacking

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A new version brings many changes, yes. But when new features get in the way of old features, there can be problems (and complaints). For us, CS8 brings as much joy as it brings pain, making us ambiguous about using it.

I could spend hours listing the upsides and how they make our life better. Flash/HTML5 export, added video tracks, transitions, grouping, marker view, preview window object placement/movement, visual properties, overall speed, etc. I could go on. CS8 is amazing.

But when we're done testing new features and get to work, we hit a brick wall.

1. Mousewheel scrolling
The first thing is timeline scrolling. I've seen it addressed in other posts, but all I've seen in response is a list of unrelated keyboard shortcuts. This is a major issue. In CS7, mouse wheel scrolling allowed for a smooth scroll of the entire timeline. Now, you need to use the bottom elevator. In a day's work, that's something that every employee will have to do 300+ times. This could be fixed with a new shortcut (SHIFT+Mousewheel?) or if you switch the scroll from tracks back to the timeline and let people scroll tracks instead.

2. Cluttered markers
When a presentation is live and a captured PPT has excess slide switches, you get a clutter of markers in marker view which requires a zoom in to be able see the label, as the text is large and you often can only see the first letter or two. A solution would be to have the label also popup when hovering the marker on the track OR have an option to switch the marker view to something less cluttered.

3. No play speed control
I've always found this to be terribly lacking. 8 hours a day of manually moving the cursor to compensate not having a play speed + and - button. This was not in CS7 or any CS that I know of, but is worth a mention.

4. Control bar with auto-hide off
Producing a project with auto-hide off makes the control bar slap itself over the video. When a customer base isn't young, having controls disappear means getting complaints about controls being gone. Therefore, every project has to have an extra area prepared. Solution: checkbox option for auto-hide mode that adds the space automatically.

5. Undo/redo buttons
I want to be able to see/click them *and* see them greyed out if I can't undo/redo anymore. Solution: make them optional in the same way "new", "open" and "save" are.

6. Chroma key.
This would be an amazing addition.

7. Selection duration
Selecting a portion of the timeline used to make the duration of the selection pop up. It doesn't anymore.

8. Split "all tracks"
Unless I missed it, there is no way to make a Split to all tracks without selecting all the tracks. The S key just splits what you have selected. Having to select everything is a waste of time when you have many tracks and many splits to do. Solution: keyboard shortcut to "Split all"

Camtasia Studio is an amazing software and grows greater and greater. CS8 is a major step forward and is as impressive as it is useful. Its "flaws" may not be flaws to everyone and we understand that.

Thank you for reading and I hope to hear some feedback.
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Just a heads up, 8.0.3 is out and should make a few people happy. It really made my day, thank you Techsmith for your good work.

http://www.techsmith.com/camtasia-ver...
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I still can't use my version 8 upgrade until they add back tweens on Zooms and Pans. Linear tweens look very unprofessional. I can't believe it would be that hard to add this feature back. If not the default, there should be an option for changing the easing.

I wish I hadn't wasted my money on upgrading.
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Official Response
Hi Everyone,

Camtasia Studio 8.0.3 released today! While not everything is addressed in this release that customers have requested, we did address many highly requested features, including support for displaying the full audio waveform, under video captioning, and setting a duration for extend frame. Here is a list of what's new:

- Made lower volume levels more distinguishable on the timeline audio waveform
- Arrow keys now scroll the playhead instead of the timeline
- Tooltips now show for locked media
- Improved ability to scroll the timeline while playing
- Added ability to specify duration when extending a frame
- Adding ripple moving and trimming of media on the timeline
- Inserting space on the timeline by holding shift and dragging the playhead
- Added option to include under video captions in a variety of outputs
- Improved audio editing for timeline selections
- Keyframes now automatically fit in available space when added to media
- Improved messaging when uploading media to private or password protected folder on Screencast.com
- Fixed an issue that caused extended frames to show incorrect cursor effects
- Added ability to set the default animation duration to instant
- Fixed an issue causing table of contents to not be initially visible
- Improved memory usage and performance on the timeline
- Fixed issues causing CS7 project upgrades to fail
- Additional bug fixing

Here is a video to explore what's new in 8.0.3: http://www.screencast.com/t/QsrLLpZRIk9

Thanks,
Shane Lovellette
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- Inserting space on the timeline by holding shift and dragging the playhead

Man this took me a long time to find. I'm already 20 days into my trial. This was a source of major frustration.
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I've been playing around with Camtasia Studio 8 trial version (8.0.4 Build 1060) for a couple of hours now and quite frankly, I'm a disappointed. Some of the features I use a lot in CS7 seem to have gone lost.

1) Where have the title clips gone?

I know, I read the forum and I know I can still achieve the same result, but far less convenient in my opinion. I have to perform much more manual operations to get the same result.

2) Where have the edit boxes for callout dimensions gone?

I want to be able to set the dimensions of a callout manually, to be sure about its exact dimension. Scale is not the same as dimension.

Imagine I place a round rect callout with some text in it, in order to make the text fit, I need to resize the callout.
Then I place another callout with different text in it and I want that to be equally large and at the same position.
I used to be able to enter the dimensions manually, now I cannot anymore, I now have to resize them on sight, dragging the handles: far less convenient.

When starting to work with CS7, I submitted a request for more ways to "manually tinker" with items on the time line, like e.g. entering a starting time for a callout (http://gsfn.us/t/2ka0e). Instead adding more of this functionality, it gets removed... :(

3) Animated callouts, why is that implemented only partly?

I was so looking forward to using these. But my very first attempt with it was rather disappointing. I created a rounded rectangle with some text in it, which I wanted to grow from a dot in the center of the screen to its final size. The rectangle animates perfectly, but where's my text gone? I can move them around with text, fade them with text, but why not scale them, with text?

OK, not all is disappointing, there are some useful new things added too, like:
- multiple video tracks
- callouts spanning more than one video clip
- grouping

But, I'm not sure yet whether CS8 is an improvement over CS7 or not...

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Why removing functionality in a new release? (CS7 -> CS8).
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Lack of linear tweens (keyframe easing) and copy and paste of keyframes has been brought up repeatedly with no response. These are very important features we all expected when we purchased the upgrade. Will you please address these concerns?
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I have been using Camtasia seven since its release two years ago. I work in a university and edit distance learning lectures. I often have to edit high volumes of material in a very short amount of time, and so have put off switching over to version eight for fear that my workflow will be seriously affected.

Aside from the interruption that will be caused by with the transition, I have put off upgrading because of the loss of certain features and some issues of backwards compatibility that have been raised on the techsmith forum. The removal of these features may mean that I put off the upgrade indefinitely and switch to rival software.

My main gripes after having used the trial were:

1. Removal of the delete function. It will literally be impossible to do my job without this. The amount that I have to edit, and the amount of things that I need to remove from recordings (like 'umms', 'ahhs' and coughs and splutters) mean that I often end up removing over ten or fifteen minutes worth of footage from a one hour lecture. Having to press an extra button to do this will make the software unwieldy and my job all the more difficult. What will make it impossible however is that, as I've read above, this is not a 'delete' function, but a 'cut' function, meaning that the footage will be placed on a clipboard. Once the clipboard begins to fill with all the cuts that I am required to carry out in lieu of a delete function, then I can see it making the program crash, and I will lose work.

This is very annoying, and whilst Techsmith may appeal that this is functionality that the software is not designed to carry out, Camtasia seven allowed me to do this, and now I have to drastically change the way that I work because of the myopia of software developers. That is fine, but I will be looking elsewhere for a product that can fulfill the requirements that the software I am used to could fulfill.

2. The issue of backwards and forwards compatibility has been raised elsewhere. I believe it is now possible to open .camproj and .camrec files made with previous versions of Camtasia in Studio Eight, however I do not believe it is possible to open projects recorded in eight with seven?

This is sort of forcing me to switch from seven to eight. I am worried however that once the software has been switched, Techsoft, after previously showing that they are capable of abandoning the needs of older users, will render all that work that I have carried out over the last few years (with older version of Camtasia) will be worthless, causing major problems .

In light of these two concerns, and the rather clunky timeline that seems to be an issue for a lot of people carrying out reviews of the software, I am more than hesitant to upgrade the software. I can do without all the extra features if it means that I won't be able to carry out the work that I am able to now with the same speed and efficiency with which Camtasia seven allows me to.
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I purchased Camtasia 8 when it came out and abandoned it because it was a) clumsy to use, b) complicated, and c) removed features that I used every single time I created a video.

Now I have a Windows 8 machine and outside of finding workarounds to make Camtasia 7 work, I have to use it.

I hate it. Hate... It.

I want my recordings to butt up against the previous ones and not be on different tracks, making me play a game of Tetris to get them where I want them to go.

I want to be able to select parts of the video and delete them without having to move the remaining pieces around.

I don't like the way the transitions work, and it's difficult to get them exactly in between two video segments that I had to jimmy to get together in the first place. I use a minimum of 50 transitions each time I create my newsletter, and I don't want to have to aim each one in between the photos of my photo montages..

I use Camtasia every week to record my company's video newsletter, and now it takes for freakin' ever to do it.

If you aren't going to add options to allow adding videos to the same tracks, or allow segment deleting, or using the old transition setup, then make Camtasia 7 free, add a couple of fixes to allow it to work with Windows 8, and make what I believe are thousands of unhappy people able to work again.

Cindy Morrison
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Cindy I have not tried putting video on the same track but I will do this and see what kind of problems I have. It should work as the other tracks are for keeping things in my opinion more organized. I guess it is what each user has in mind and how they want the software to be for the UI. I will let you know and thanks for your input as it gives me some more things to test and try.
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Official Response
In response to #6:

Today we are pleased to announce the release of Camtasia Studio 8.1 which adds this feature you might find helpful.

Remove a Color (Green Screen or Chroma Key)

The Remove a Color feature, also called "Green Screen effect", or "Chroma Key effect" allows a color to be removed from a video or image. Typically this technique is used to remove a one-color background behind a video or image to allow another image or video to show through.

You will find the Remove a Color option in the Visual Properties Tab
Choose the color to remove from the dropdown menu or select the color from the media on the canvas.
Use the Remove a Color options to adjust the tolerance of the color removal, the softness of the effect, the hue of the color palette, and more.

For more information, watch this video tutorial:
http://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-cam...

If you have Camtasia Studio 8 installed (trial or licensed version), you can update to the new version by clicking Help > Check for Updates or by downloading and installing here.
http://www.techsmith.com/download/cam...
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Thank you for the great work :) That's a great addition.
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I would like to mention that I'm very happy with how Techsmith handles threads like this one, and how they obviously do care about making their customers happy.

Looking at the original post, 6 of these 8 issues have been resolved: mousewheel scrolling, cluttered markers (through the label popup), undo/redo buttons, chroma key, selection duration, split all tracks.

That's in addition to the many, many other improvements from 8.0 to 8.1...
So thank you, and keep up the good work!
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Any word on adding keyframe easing back. That's still keeping me on version 7.
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Hi,

We did add the ability to ease animations in and out in version 8.1.

By default, easing for animations is turned off. However, you can turn easing on and make it the default setting for all animations:

1. From within Editor, choose Tools > Options.
2. The tabbed Options dialog box appears. Change the Default animation easing
setting to Exponential In/Out.
3. Click OK.

You can also check out this video to learn more:
http://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-cam...

If you have any other questions, feel free to let us know!

Kelly
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Awesome! I hadn't noticed that it was added back.

What about cut, copying and pasting keyframes? Is that possible again?

EDIT: I just checked. It is.
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Confused. I started with Camtasia 6 and with the small video recording we do, it was perfect. Record a PowerPoint presentation with presenter and that was it. Camtasia had a PIP with TOC and PPP in the main view. We are not a video recording studio so this met our needs. We just upgraded to 8 and where did the ease of creating a simple video go? A lot of great features but I still can't figure out where the TOC is with 25 or more slides. I like the new features but doing video is not my primary responsibility and 8, for what we use it for, is very time consuming. I'm going back to 6 to produce the PIP,TOC with PPP which was quick and simple. When I need a really nice video with the bells and whisle, I'll come back to 8 and learn it.
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perhaps this might help

this tutorial demonstrates a way to make side-by-side videos in CS8 ...

http://www.screencast.com/t/MjsUuln3Fzk

in CS8, if you use a web cam[?] the camera video [WMV] will have the audio narration and the main video will be silent; they are initially grouped with the camera clip over top [on a higher track] the main video; you can right click and ungroup them, then you have 2 separate clips to work with
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I am delighted with 8.1. Until now, I was unable to use the app in tandem with Avid Media Composer. I'd have to close one or the other. 8.1 is robust, has tweening back and is simply a pleasure to work with.
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Thanks Les! It means a lot to the team to hear comments like this. We're glad you're happy with it. Thanks for using Camtasia Studio.
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In addition to all the request, some features that I miss are the possibility to change the brightness or contrast of a video section, and change the colors balance etc...
sometimes the raw video material is too dark and I need to fill light. Now i am using other tools or youtube editing features but I wold like to be able to do these edits in Camtasia.
Thanks
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Thanks for the request. We will consider this request for a future release.
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I was really disappointed to see publishing features reduced in that the ability to have left-hand table of Contents (ExpressShowTOC) displayed permanently was removed.
While the following reference link (https://techsmith.zendesk.com/entries... ) to a tutorial does provide a workaround, it's not very convenient, and while the old version update of the current topic automatically as the timeline progressed during end-user playback, version 8 doesn't seem to allow this (so no reference to where you are in TOC). Also, when changing resolution sizes within the browser, the menu does not adjust accordingly with this workaround.
Any possibility of bringing this functionality that did work well in version 7 back into the next version?

Thanks, Paul

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if you produce using multi files from markers, the currently playing TOC item will automatically index [highlight] in the TOC as the video plays

the workaround described can be made very convenient if you set it up initially as a template project and then add the template project to Library as a reusable asset, or just export the template project as a zip and load it each time you need to start a new project

if you take the Library approach, add a caption at beginning of project with editing dimensions specs because you will need to reset that after loading the Library asset
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Hi, thanks for the quick response...
Will give it a try...
Regards, Paul

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