Can I change Camtasia 8 Waveform to the way it looked in Camtasia 7?

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I personally do not like the way the audio waveform looks in Camtasia 8. Is there I can change it to look like it did in Camtasia 7...and every other audio/video editor?
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Hey David,

I am sorry say that no, you currently cannot switch back the waveform to how it looked in Camtasia 7. The reasoning behind was that in 7 we weren't actually showing you additional information by having that double sided waveform, we were just measuring the amplitude and reflecting it. So whereas as in other editors, the two sides could be different, we did not since a lot of our users did not find benefit from that information.

And since we weren't really giving any extra information with a double sided waveform, we felt it was just taking up valuable space on the media for not much benefit. Also, we hoped that the volume controls on media that show up when you switch to the Audio tab would feel more intuitive with the waveform growing in the same direction as the direction you move the controls (as seen here http://www.screencast.com/t/zYUskJX3 )

But with all that said, we don't claim that's its perfect. And we take user suggestions very seriously. So thank you for your feedback!

Is there a reason other than consistency with other audio/video editors that you want the waveform to be double sided? For example, do you feel like you get more information from a double sided waveform? Or are you looking for a way to access more advanced information from the waveform that we don't currently provide?

Thanks again for you question!
Cheers
-Brandon
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OK - this is by design - I thought there must be something wrong with my graphics card.
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I just upgraded to v8 and found out that audio wave form shows only upper half only, and I got a reply from TechSmith tech support that they decided to show only half of wave form..

I would like to view the full waveform for it is much easier with full form, in editing (say in location cut points etc...) the audio.

I would like to have the option for the old way of full wave form. Is there any way to get that except falling l back to older version v7.1 from which I upgraded?

And in my experience v8 is NOT AT ALL l faster than v7.1 on my windows 7 64bit system...

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Want to know how I could get the full audio wave form same as v7.1 in stead of only half in v8??.
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I find it very difficult to work in the timeline tracks when the UI only shows the top half of the audio waveform. I work with audio all the time and have never seen it represented this way. I "get" why the attempt to save space is made, but it makes it hard for me to work. I'd love to see this an a display option on a per-waveform basis, so I can collapse the ones I am not working on, but I can see the full waveform for the one I am editing.
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I've got to say that I don't like that half waveform at all, personally it seems a bizarre decision.

I've worked in radio for 20 years of my life and never have I encountered a half waveform ... it's like only getting half the picture ... or making us edit our videos in black and white.

It's really hard to get real sharp edits on a half waveform, this really doesn't work for me at all ... I'd be really grateful if you considered an 'on/off' option on this and very surprised it wasn't tested before launch as I can't imagine it will be popular.
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That's really a bad mistake, OK, one side of the waveform maybe "better" but why is on bottom line of its track?, there are sounds like the final "sss" (hiss) in some words, the waveform represents it similar to a flat line, a little bit bigger than the silence waveform, I need an eagle eye to see the difference between the bottom line of the track and the waveform's "line" that represents that kind of sounds. I prefer the old waveform, and if you added only the half waveform, then I need to view it centered in its track, not on the bottom, it is a better view, I can view that small difference...sorry for my English.
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I am glad to see I am not the only one who believes that TechSmith made a GROSS mistake by deciding to show only half of audio wave form, and that also at the bottom without any space below.

I believe this new feature will DETER any who learn about this change from upgrading to V8 unless TechSmith revises the program to give an option to have old full size wave form for an easy audio editing.

With only half of the picture, you can not do a clear cut sharp editing without FULL picture in editing.

Your English is all right, Carlos Berman. You nailed the problem down tight!

http://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmi...#
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On something as important as the audio, I would have suggested the option to go full view and half view in v.8 and then after sampling user opinion, making the switch only in v.9 if there was sufficient support for the half view.

I will continue to use v.7 until the full view option is available - everything else in v.8 is great by the way!
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The more I look at the half view, the more I dislike it. It oges against every other audio prog I use - Cubase / wavelab / Audition / Melodyne etc
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In my opinion, TechSmith should fire the guy who came up with this stupid half wave form idea, unless he comes up with good reasons why we should live with only half of the audio wave form.
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Yeah...bad idea. I'm wondering if you guys tried doing any precise audio editing when you made this change. This alone will cause me to go back to Version 7. I need to make precise audio edits to take out umms, and breathy sounds for the VO. Almost impossible to do with this new form.
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I am glad I am not the only one that feels this way. I don't agree that the person should be fired, I think it just needs to be addressed and fixed. Every single audio editor I have ever used (Protools, Audacity, Soundbooth, Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, Cool Edit Pro, Audition) shows the whole wave form. It makes it easier to take out minor audio issues (umms, breaths, etc.).

The issue I am running into is that I record a "rough draft" of my developers explaining new advances in our software. Then we go back and add the professional sounding voice-over. I am glad they made Camtasia 8 allow multiple audio tracks, but when I try to sync the rough audio with the professional audio, the tracks overlay, and you can't see the wave form on the new track (see image the image below!).

Had it been the full wavefom...I could live with this problem. Camtasia 8 just makes my job harder.
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I have to agree with everyone here. Often we edit sound with our eyes, not just our ears, and having a half waveform makes the job much harder. This may be the only real feature that I don't like about CS8. Please bring back the full waveform (even if it is just mirrored). It was much easier to work with.
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V7 also allows for "unlimited" volume increase where V8 is limited to 500%. There are time when we record live session and we need to crank up the audio to just before the point of distortion for questions from the crowd to be able to be heard.

Asking the presenter to repeat questions is a standard, but they do not always remember.

Please bring this back.
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This was one of the first things I contacted support about, a lot of the audio editing I was used to in version 7 has been changed. While I like some of the smoother workflow in 7, there is a lot that just doesn't work the same. Not being able to see the full waveform really slows down my audio editing process as well. I fully agree, I'd like to have the option to use the full wave display.
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Hi,

I can't see the waves at all... is there a setting I am missing?

Thanks

A
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I upgraded to version 8. One thing I find very annoying is the way the audio track displays. On my computer I see the top half of the audio wave only. The other half is a blank blue area.

Is there any way to see the entire audio wave, which makes it easier for us old timeline editors.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Camtasia V8 audio waveform.
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By removing the full waveform you have made version 8 useless for me. The magic of Camtasia to my presenter group was our ability highly edit the audio (down to a syllable level). This made even marginal speakers sound great. Instead of reducing the audio functionality in 8 you should have improved on it. One suggestion was a function for selecting an audio segment, being able to search for that segment in the audio track and then having the option to delete similar segments. This would make removing the hundreds of umm's and ahh's from poor speakers much easier and faster. Camtasia was quickly becoming the standard in our business for rapid video production. I will need to stay with 7.1 if you do not change 8.
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Mark Moscrip

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Right on! 7 rules! 8 has great embellishments - but without the basic sound edit ability it is a downgrade. 7 is a tool, 8 is plaything. Give me tools, not bells and whistles!
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Well, this thread addresses my annoyance with CS8. I can't see any of the waveform in the editor, which caused me to come here. Whoever heard of only showing half the waveform on a video/audio editor. (shaking head) That's like serving an ice cream cone with half a cone, and offering a delightful pair of plastic gloves to keep your hands from getting sticky. I'd rather have a full cone, thanks.
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I wish that the audio time wave format was the same as Camtasia 7. Sometimes harder to select specific section of audio

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Audio time Line.
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Guys Great job on 8.0 One major suggestion give us the full view of the audio track like it used to in version 7. When you edit it is extremely difficult to edit only seeing what we do

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Enhancement changes seeing the whole audio track.
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I'm with everyone on here because I can no longer do VERY TEDIOUS edits as only Camtasia was capable of. I have the old version on another machine and have to go back and forth.

I was just trying to take out an Um and couldn't isolate it as I'm accustomed to. Ended up leaving it in.
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I was struggling with this just today. Glad to know it wasn't just me having a hard time with it. Not to say I'm glad you had a hard time with it.

I've never had such a hard time editing audio as I am having with v8. I had to do what you are doing....I have to use version 7 to edit the audio...which incudes using the noise reduction feature. They really botched up the noise reduction in version 8.
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The audio wave form on 8 is unhelpful. My work consists of editing based on the voice track. In the 7 version all sounds show up CLEARLY on the graphic waveform. Unfortunately - on 8 some clear voice sounds produce a graphic indistinguishable from the background noise. I frequently have to re-edit the same spot to get it right. The waveform should retain detail, show spikes, and delineate both soft and slurred sounds. In 8 the wave form does not do those things. It shows no spikes, it is muddy - ie
no detail to help decide where a sound ends and another begins, but the worst is the inability [in some cases] to visually decide where the voice stops. I don't care about single sided or double sided, but I can not live with soft sounds and the ends of words simply disappearing into the background. I HAVE to SEE it.

SOLUTION:
I hope you will add a choice to use the old v7 waveforms instead of the v8 waves. As it is the sound editing issue is just to big to ignore.

CURRENTLY, I edit sound first in 7, then reopen in 8 to do the visuals and transitions. A little cumbersome but preferable. Sorry for you guys that don't have 7!
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I am using Audacity to solve this problem. I just record everyone edit and then upload the audio and it works great for me.

But agree, with everyone that the old audio wave was much better.
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Is this how it is with version 8 now? If so, that was a terrible decision.

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Why in the world is the wave form cut in half?.
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I'll cast my vote with other users here.
It's MUCH harder to discretely edit audio with only half of the peak to peak.

I'm now having to use Sony Sound Forge.

What were you guys thinking?
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Beth Jones

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I used the new version this week and found editing painstakingly more difficult with the chopped waveform. I will probably use audacity next time then dump the edited audio in or use a different program altogether.