Can tracks be hidden/muted? (Studio 8)

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On each track, there should be a button next to the lock button to make that track hidden. If items on that track are visual, they should disapear. If items on the track are auditory, they should be muted.

This would be extremely helpful in many cases. An example would be having set the music track, set volume levels, cut and spliced, etc. then needing to work on the audio for the spoken track. It would be helpful to be able to mute the music track without deleting it. Same idea for visuals. Sometimes I need to hide callouts and/or captions, and really don't want to delete the track and rebuild it all later.

Anyone who has used Adobe products will know the benefit of hiding layers.
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Posted 7 years ago

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Hi Daniel,

I appreciate the feedback! Yes this is a feature that many users would appreciate: I'll share it with the team!

Thanks for using Camtasia Studio!

Regards,

Aaron
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Aaron,

Thanks. I'm loving getting to know Camtasia Studio. I think it's a really great program and has quickly become an essential piece of my software arsenal.

Daniel Mitchell
Rush Enterprises
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Aaron,

It's been 11 months since this original post. I've also searched this site and found multiple posts from years back, each with many follow-up "me-to" comments.

Let me be clear, this is still a very real and everyday problem for me in my job. I use CS8 constantly, and I know lots of "work-arounds". None of them are simple, and none of them gaurantee that my painstakingly precise timing and volume levels will be the same when I add the clips back in.

I think those who are saying that there are simple workarounds must just set one volume level per clip...useful in some cases, but not sufficient for videos with music, computer sound effects and vocal tracks with fades and critically planned silences.

Am I posting this in the wrong place? Do I need to submit some kind of feature request? I love hearing people say "that's a great idea" and "duh, why hasn't this happened yet", but I'd much rather hear an update from the TechSmith team saying "we're working on this, and as soon as we work out a few bugs, we'll start testing it for release". Another possible response could be "no, we've decided that it's too expensive." Either way, I could stop anxiously checking my TechSmith page each time I'm told that someone commented on my request.

If your company policy doesn't allow you to be that specific, could you at least tell me that this is still in front of the team?

Thanks,

Daniel
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I'll put another vote on this one - really liking what I see in the eval but quickly found myself looking for a hide/suppress feature for individual tracks - something like the eyeball on a layer in Photoshop.  For audio, video or effects tracks.
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Please do this!
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Me too - it should be like layers in photoshop where you can have content there and display the bits you need while editing, and want in the final mix.
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Hi everyone. Two things regarding this, firstly to add my "me too" re the need to be able to hide both audio and visual tracks.  I can't claim to be an expert but as someone said on this same topic in another thread, this is basic stuff ("Editing 101" as they put it. . .) and I'm already feeling limited and frustrated by the absence of this feature.

Secondly, while I think we can all appreciate the Snagit and Camtasia programs, I'm concerned to see a range of (obvious seeming) concerns / requests / suggestions dating back YEARS in some cases, and not only to still have no change effected, but also to receive no explanation as to why, for example, the particular requested feature is harder to implement than is perhaps realized, is troubling.

Just to be specific, another two examples of this happening are 1) dropping the "immediate feedback" option which was a part of Camtasia v7's Quizzing capability (and which is seen as pedagogically vital by pretty much any experienced educator) and 2) the continued inability within Screencast.com Pro to be able to apply a custom template to a Folder or Playlist. Finding that it's not actually possible to do this is so utterly "non-intuitive", that the descriptions of it in the "Pro" promotion come perilously close to being false advertising.

To re-cap, there is so much to like about this company and their products, but their seeming inability to address the concerns and to listen to the repeated requests of their customers over a considerable period of time is very strange indeed. . . .

So please, communicate the reasons for these delays in the first instance and, more to the point, implement ASAP in order to satisfy your customers and grow your company.

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This days we produce videos and dubb them in the same project for two different languages. We strong miss a  mute function for a trace or for a clip when checking out e.g. the English dubbed version above the same camrec-clip where the German version already exists. That's necessary to use the one camrec for both languages. The workaround now is, to move one of the spoken comment outside the trace to check the other version  synchronously. This is very fiddly and fault-prone. To temporarily lay silence on a clip is not recommended because camtasia has no possibility to save the hight of the sound level to restore it from silence to the previous state. 
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you can easily do this now, just do not use the silence method

just change the clip's audio level to 0 using the timeline control ...

http://www.screencast.com/t/NCwqidHxGZd 
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Kayakman, this would only work if my audio were all set to one level. In one video, I often have 20 to 30 different audio levels for music or spoken clips that need to be customized. I have fade ins and outs. Changing the audio level to 0 would erase days of work.... Hence the need in the first place.
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Yes, a good idea! But don't forget which level you had before the silence :o) Thank you.
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Daniel, then in your case, to do this now, I would send the [separate] audio collections to Library and swap then in/out as needed

you could also save each audio collection as a new audio clip [file menu option], then use those in the project instead of all the separate clips

that would greatly simplify the project also
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Kayakman, that could work, and I appreciate your input. I may end up using your technique at times.

However, I am almost always working on large projects and this issue was originally mentioned because I kept running into situatios where I needed everything on an entire vocal track (or several different tracks) muted for 2-3 minutes while I edited audio on another track.

Each time I need this is only for a few minutes at a time. Depending on the size of my current project, I need a track muted about 10-50 times a week. SO...this would mean saving each track as a new clip in the library over and over again. It would mean using filename schemes to be certain that I am always working with the most current compilation, and it would mean taking the huge risk of throwing off the minutia of timing involved in each training video.

Also, on the visual side... Obviously I could create groups and save an entire track to the library, but with juggling between 100-200 individual visual elements, multiple groups and sometimes 10-12 tracks.... the potential for disaster is way too real to be swapping them in and out.

So like I said, I appreciate the suggestions, but I'm blown away that TechSmith hasn't taken this request very seriously. They've gone through quite a few updates since this request was mentioned. I have also seen other users' similar requests that have also been around since the early days of Studio 8. (See: https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/the_ability_to_mute_tracks_both_audio_and_video)

Who knows, maybe Adobe has an ironclad patent on the programming needed to make
this happen.
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Kayakman, I gave this little workaround to my trainee and he at once found the Achilles' heel. Good idea to note the level in % which the bubble shows. BUT! It only makes sense if there is an audio point visible. As soon as you trimm or cut the begin of an audio track, the audio point where the bubble appears is no more visilbly and also the bubble with the percent of the altitude when clicking the curve. So is the behavior of my Camtasia 8.1.3 (Build 1344).
In this case with your workaround one has to consider this fact before he becomes frustrated.
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having trimmed the start audio point is a limitation [you can always drag it to a empty track, drag out the beginning, and see the audio point again]; if I have to do this a lot in a project, I'll add a temporary empty track immediately above to facilitate this

another easy method is to select one audio clip, right click it and send it to Library; then delete it and listen to and edit other; bring it back when finished tweaking

more steps but it can go very fast
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So this a something of a workaround for audio. How about videotracks?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
In Camtasia, I'd like to be able to hide/mute a track during editing or playback..


In Camtasia, I'd like to be able to hide/mute a track during editing or playback. I was re-recording narration with a good mic and I see no good way to 'set the existing narration aside' without saving as a new project.  Perhaps I'm missing something?
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+1. Please add mute/hide buttons!
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Yes -please do this! :) Camtasia is great, and nearly all track sequencers afford individual track visibility (sound or video or both) - so this would make Camtasia even better. I am using visual masks presently (a blank track above a lower with just one black screen mask, which can be removed later). For sound, though, its pretty hard to mask without manually lowering track volume. Thanks!
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Yip, put my name in the hat for this as well.
Tks in advance
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I think this is a medical issue. Every time one of the engineers (or their children -its been around that long) reads this feature request there is a resounding "DUUUUhhhhhhhh" and the sound of a forehead slap that is unfortunately so hard they are knocked unconscious. Too hard it appears, affecting their memory and the ability to programmatically respond. Over and over again, for years - REQUEST, DUUuuuh, SLAP, FORGET, repeat, -REQUEST, DUUuuuh, SLAP, FORGET, repeat, -REQUEST, DUUuuuh, SLAP, FORGET, repeat. It's tragic really, send your dollars in now...

Meanwhile find your own work around for the obvious.

-REQUEST, DUUuuuh, SLAP, FORGET

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It certainly wouldn't be very hard to add a check box or two that mutes/hides a track during playback.  I let the demo run out and bought other software.  Too bad -this was nice and easy to use but little things like this kill the experience.

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