Caption window no longer a choice in version 8.

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This conversation has been merged. Please reference the main conversation: Captions under video in Camtasia Studio 8

In 8 you no longer have the ability to do 508 compliant captioning off the video as you could in Version 7. This is a big problem for us at the DOT in Cambridge where all our videos have been produced in the later format. It will now signal a major altering of our workflow and we will have to output a wmv file from edited 8 and then recapture in 7 just to maintain the look and feel of the below the video captioning. This will be a majotr problem for all government compliant employees using camtasia I suspect.
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Skip Bensley

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razsteroxzine

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I rather liked the version 7 CC. It allowed me to select under video instead of guessing how large I need to make my video so that the CC will be at the bottom.

I too have to have 508 compliant captioning for government uses and I'm having to re-record in version 7. :/
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Mike Spink, TechSmith Support

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Hello,

I had emailed Skip but I figured I would post it here as well to share with everyone. From what I gather on the original post you're missing the ability to have captions be below the video like we had in version 7. I made a quick video showing how to accomplish this in version 8. I hope it helps! If Im misunderstanding the problem definitely let me know.

http://screencast.com/t/jAn08qtNcYj

Thanks!

Mike
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Mike S

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Are captions 508-compliant if they are placed over the video, as opossed to below the video? I can't seem to find a definitive answer to that question. In CS 8, the "ADA-Compliant" icon seems to indicate that it's OK to place "over" the video. Researching this topic (http://www.howto.gov/web-content/acce..., it would appear it doesn't matter where captions are placed as long as they're synced correctly. Any ideas?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Placement of captions for 508-compliance..
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Skip Bensley

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Wow that link you put up did not connect so I am not sure what you are reading. There are lots of articles about captioning. The DOT in Cambridge prefers the off the video capturing and all videos have been done in that format going back 3 or more years. Tech Smith just decided we aren't doing it that way with version 8 and now we are looking for another software and or process to keep pace with our work flow.
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http://www.howto.gov/web-content/acce... Needed to remove the parenthesis.
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Mike S

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So it would appear that Camtasia 8's captioning method IS in fact, ADA-compliant, meaning captions do not neccesarily need to be placed below the video.
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I had to figure a way to make it work - I just enlarged the video by 60px or more and had the background black.
It is a backwards way of doing it, but it is working for my needs.

Wish I could add color to my CCtext.
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Skip Bensley

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I hear you. I think however when you need to Jerry rig it there is a problem. I tried to do that myself a few times but with projects that are 90 minutes long Camtasia 8 isn't stable enough to not crash when you ask it to do too much. So now I edit the videos in final cut, Export to a windows media file, import to Camtasia 7 and then put in the captions. It's one more step but it works. It would have been nice if you could share Camtasia 7 and 8 files back and forth but I have been told you cannot.
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You can format the text anyway you like in 8.02 at least.
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Skip Bensley

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Mike you sound like a Camtasia employee which is fine. I should state however again that the issue was more about the off video captioning versus the on video captioning. We produce 90 minute webinars with powerpoint and audio and with multiple speakers throughout the US. If you place captions on the power point slides themselves it just looks confusing and dilutes the information altogether which certainly is not the intent of 508 captioning I would think?
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Mike S

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Not an employee. I would agree that "over the video" will not work in all cases and yes, it would be nice to have the option to go "on" or "below". I'm not a thrilled with the idea of resizing the stage to fit captions underneath either. I am however thrilled that as least we have the option in CS8 Smart PLayer to "close" the captions for the first time.
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Official Response
Hi all - I'm happy to pass along the news that our development team made some changes in the new Camtasia Studio 8.0.3 to bring back under-video captions! It is a free update for anyone who owns Camtasia Studio; just open Camtasia and click Help > Check for Updates.

A couple of details...

You won't see the placement of the captions reflected in the preview window but when you produce to Screencast.com or the Flash/HTML5 player you have the option to place the captions below the video in the final, produced file.

This video from Camtasia product manager Shane Lovellette includes a section showing how the new caption placement works (see 14:35).

I'm going to go ahead and merge this thread since we have a number of duplicates. If you have additional ideas or questions about captioning or anything else, please chime in on that thread or start a new one.

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