Collapsed callout line

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I like to use this line style on a callout:



The problem is that you can't save this as a quick style and, even if you could, resizing the box opens it up again.  And therefore you have to painstakingly adjust every callout box.

Could we have a callout setting to keep the base of the line always merged please?
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Perhaps you should request a winning lottery ticket with order?
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Put in on a separate sheet that you can access from the library Paul.  Copy and paste
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Yes, I could, Rick,  but that doesn't answer the problem that as soon as you start to type, autoresizing is applied to the box and the base starts to open up, because the base width is, I believe, calculated as a percentage of the box height.
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Hmmm I must have misunderstood something.
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BTW, another helpful aspect of this line type is that it makes it much easier to add additional callout lines.  You use a regular line like this, which saves all the hassle of overlaying another box of the same size and sending it backwards

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So what you're actually looking for is a new style of callout.Straight lines.
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That would work.  I'm not precious about how it's implemented
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In looking at the sample image, I see some inconsistency. The bottom line seems to be narrow at the tip and widens as it nears the callout while the top one is obviously a separate line that is consistent in its appearance from beginning to end.

Visually, I rather like the bottom one better.

Personally, I'd love to see some new types of callouts. I've seen one effect that looks nicely modern.



If implemented, I would hope for the same behavior of being able to click in the center of the callout to adjust its position while the tips remain anchored. I love that feature of callouts!

Cheers... Rick :)
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Ooooh.  Dog leg line.  I'll have some of that!
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Wrt to the shape of the two lines, you're right, there is a subtle difference caused by my inaccuracy in collapsing the base.  If you look at this exploded view you can see that the two base indicators (diamonds)  are not exactly overlaid



In the lower callout I did a proper job of merging the base, and then the added line became indistinguishable
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yeah, if that were actually the effect I was wanting to achieve, I think I'd just use the arrows or lines in combination with the callout. When I've done this in the past, I generally realize I need more than one line, then I end up drawing the arrows, then right-clicking and bringing the callout to the front to overlay the arrows. For my money it's just too dang fiddly to try and align those dots.
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If anybody is inspecting your callouts that closely, spotting discrepancy's like Paul's.
I hope its the quality control boss looking over your work.

Because if it's just some random person you've sent a screen shot to. They've got far to much time on their hands.LOL
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I wasn't trying to be mean spirited in my comment.

I've found you can slam the diamonds together quite easily when I've use them.

You don't even have to be precise, just grab and swipe through well beyond the other diamonds location. Piece of cake.
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Hadn't thought of that but of course you can't have one point as a negative of the other, so it assume 0 divergence.
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Unless I'm missing something I  would just add a callout without the pointer at all (just a type box)  and finish it with the text, etc and then just add the lines behind it instead of fighting all that resizing etc.

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Duh! :) Nice one Jasons
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In a way, that's how I operate. Generally speaking, I am usually only concerned with the rectangle of the callout box. But the one I've saved as a Quick Style has the pointer.

So usually what I do is just drag that callout tip past the edge of the callout. Then add the lines.

Unfortunately, there is no way to actually draw the lines behind the callout, so that always results in a right-click and bring to front on the callout.
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There is also an option for a callout shape with no callout line which you CAN save.  We just need an additional option for one with a solid line

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Yepper, I was indeed aware of that option. But I opt for simplicity and speed. I rather dislike being forced to hunt for the callout I want. What would seem optimal (to me, anyway) would be to offer the basic shapes. Then allow us to configure things via properties or by right-clicking. For example, click the rectangle. Want a callout pointer? Right-click an edge and add as many points as you like.

Since we're here and discussing the shapes, I do have to admit that I really Really REALLY have a serious dislike for the initial rectangle shape where it's wider at the top and narrows slightly as the sides go to the bottom edge. To me, it just looks all wonky.

And maybe that's the point of it. So we dislike it and decide t look at the options to see how to change it! LOL
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Couldn't agree more the pinched bottom shape looks horrible
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I think what your missing Jasons is what this post was originally about.

You got in on what it morphed into. Your points are valid. 

The original post dealt saving a callout with a straight tail. Not the triangular wedge shape, which is the default shape of callouts with tails. You can't save a straight tail.

Myself, I don't find the need for multiple tails often. Having to add one  is more of a hassle than having one that's attached. Especially if I want to reposition the callout.