Considering v9 upgrade, question about features

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I'm not sure yet if I want to upgrade from v8.6 to v9. Can anyone let me know which of these features are included in the latest v9 version?

- Reverse a video (to play the video and audio backwards). I currently have to do this externally using WinFF/FFMpeg.

- Slow a video down to slower than just 50% speed (which is the minimum speed possible with v8.6 that I currently have).

- Speed a video up to faster than 400% speed

- Allow an easy/seamless way of performing all edits on low quality proxy videos and only switch to the full quality ones for rendering. I know it's vaguely possible with v8.6 but you have to replace each clip and confirm and read the dialog that says it might not work. If I could just specify somehow these are all the high quality clips and this other folder contains the ones to use during editing and switch between them.

- Better audio options, e.g. volume averaging (to reduce peaks and raise quiet sections).

- Contrast and Brightness sliders

- HDR simulation (brighten up the dark areas and darken the bright areas)

- Better blur/pixelate option (a bit like Photoshop's "content aware fill")

- Better connection between a cropped video and the output video size, e.g.: I have a video that's 1280x720 and has black borders at top and bottom that are each 50 pixels high. So effectively my "video" is 1280x620. So I turn on crop mode, crop out the top and bottom 50 pixels leaving me with a cropped size of 1280x620. When I then produce a video, nowhere is there an option to output the video at 1280x620. It should at least be an option "Use cropped size". I'm not sure but I think if I try to change the output dimensions to 1280x620, I won't get what I expect (my video without the black borders), I'll instead get a 1280x720 video that's been vertically stretched to x620 and I still have the black borders ;-)

- Audio option seem to have been removed in version 9 (mp3, wav, silence) ... is that still true with the latest 9 version?
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It's kinda no and yes to your questions

Reverse video = no

Here is a free program you may like for reverse video.
Much easier that ffmpeg and works great with multiple options

http://www.misterxander.fr/info/Time_Reversal/index_en.html

Speeding up or slowing down video is possible I don't know to what extent though
as I have not really worked in that area much.

Audio options are still very basic and lacking.
I use Audacity for audio editing.

Mp3 is indeed gone at this time but wav and silence is still there.

It really boils down to what you need and if it will do the job,
you might consider giving the trial of 9 a go and see if it will fit your needs.

Camtasia 9 does have some cool features that 8 does not and
you can have Camtasia 8 and 9 installed on the same machine.

The downside is you can only run one or the other at a time.
Most people I know and I'm pretty sure many here on the forum have both installed
and swicth to the version that works best to accomplish the job needed.

:)
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Reverse - No (Though this is something that I read, they MIGHT be working on for a future release)

Speed up or slow down - YES. The new way to speed up or slow down allows more control over the length. From extremely fast, to extremely slow.
Video lesson here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGGEO0bmKak&list=PLoGpay6XnQnTKgZMDZs9u-zIq_zbiFI9I&index=3

-- Better audio options
Yes, you have better control over this, I do not have a video on it, but it is available.
You can get somewhat of an idea, by checking out this video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8_KcOZAnqw&list=PLoGpay6XnQnTKgZMDZs9u-zIq_zbiFI9I&index=9

Here is the entire playlist.
there are more features than what I have covered here on my list, but this will give you a general idea of what is available.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoGpay6XnQnTKgZMDZs9u-zIq_zbiFI9I
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I was checking out your playlist, I notice you covered Camtasia Steam.
Unfortunately,   Steam subscriptions have been terminated.
Regards,Joe
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Thanks a lot Dubie and wayne. So it's a "not yet" on the reverse video. I can live with that, I have a workflow already and I've only ever had to do that twice so it's not a #1 priority (even though I put it first in my list ;-) ). Audio changes sound both good and not so good, so I'd definitely want to keep both installed although I doubt the negative issues people have reported would affect me.

Still wondering about editing using low-quality proxy videos and an easy switchover to the full-quality versions for rendering. That's something that's clunkily possible with v8.6. I'm hoping they made it easier.

Also wondering about that cropped video use case I described. I never did figure out a good way of doing that.
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Camtasia 9 doesn't allow you to lower the playback quality of Canvas area or Pre-render the footage on the timeline.That's the most effective way to achieve smooth timeline playback.

 I never liked proxy videos.
They look considerable worse when you pause the video.
But to answer your question,there's no wizard to create and manage proxy videos for you.

As far as your cropped video goes, there is no solution without distortion or discarding part of your video. Video is played back in aspect ratios. 1280 x 720 is 16x9.
1080p fall into the same category. 16x 9.
Media players display video by dimensions "Aspect Ratios" and you cannot force them to display odd sized videos without displaying black borders.
Bottom line, you can't fit any rectangle you record into any rectangle you want. Here's what I believe you've described.
Your starting with this. So to speak.The gray area is just background.

You only have 2 real options. If you want to lose the black borders. You can increase the size of the video enough to fill the entire screen."Zoom In" Effectively losing some of information in the video.Not a lot.
 
 Or you can stretch and distort the video to fit, which I would never recommend.

 Or you can live with the black borders.

Regards,Joe
 
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I can't imagine why you wouldn't want proxy videos for editing. They allow you to edit as if you had a processor/memory/SSD from the year 2032, but now. Of course the image quality looks bad when you pause during editing, but it's the rendered video that's important and how quickly you can get to the point where you're ready to render, and proxy videos are ideal for that. Especially if you're using big/multiple 1080p or 4K videos.

As for cropping to non-standard sizes, why not. I do it all the time. Here's one pre-edited (at 826x480, yes it's not 16:9). It's being played on VLC on Windows.



Here's after I cropped it using WinFF:



It's true that if I maximize on my 16:9 monitor I'll have black bars above and below, but (a) I probably won't maximize, and (2) I'd rather have program-generated 100% pure blackbars than ones encoded into the video and taking up disk space.

Here's how I cropped it:



and if I'd wanted to reverse it, I would have done this:

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Well, as far as cropping goes. I thought your problem was uploading and playing your videos online.
What you want to do is set your project settings to 1280 x 620






Then you need to do a custom production.




The video size will already be selected for you but you can go through the settings if you want to change anything. The default setting will apply if you just keep hitting "Next"


Proxy videos look bad while playing as well as paused. Due to the permanent blurriness baked into proxy videos, there not an exact representation of what you get at the time of rendering either.
 I don't like using them for color correction or lighting effects. When it comes to applying FX effects, Proxy videos can be very misleading.
I don't normally use Camtasia for anything but screen recordings. I don't use it for video games or 4K.
 I use Premier Pro for my high quality video work. You don't need proxy videos with Premiere Pro at all.
You can playback the footage in full HD. Pre-Render the Timeline if necessary.
Or temporarily lower the resolution in the playback window.
Anyway you slice it, no proxy videos are required.

Camtasia should adopt the same. 
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Yeah, I think I did figure that custom size setting once (after fighting it for a long time). I'm just looking for a single button/checkbox "resize canvas to cropped video size" or have it at least appear in the dropdown. Especially as I don't necessarily know how many pixels it is. I'd say that at least 95% of the videos I edit are standard 720p or 1080p size at 16:9, so I'm glad I don't have to go down that convoluted workflow path very often.

I see your point(s) now about using proxies. Generally the videos I'm editing I don't need to worry about colour correction or lighting effects or mismatched quality/colours. I'm generally working on a bunch of separate clips all filmed in the same place on the same camera with the same lighting. So I'll pre-convert all the clips to something like 300kbps for the proxies and it works fine for me. I just wish it was 2 or 3 clicks just prior to rendering rather than sometimes 50 clicks.
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Actually, there is a way.  The main thing is you need to center the video first. Or it doesn't resize all 4 sides. Check it out.

First, odd ball crop job.


Then, use snap grid to center video.


Open project settings and select Fit to visible


Presto!
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I've just spent a few mins looking around 8.6 and don't think that's an option. So there's another plus for upgrading :) Thanks a lot.
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Trying the v9 trial and so far I'm loving it. Regarding the question I posed at the start of this thread:

clip speed - great to have ultimate flexibility instead of being constrained to 0.5x to 4x speed.

ui - seems to be nicer, it'll take an adjustment to find things but I don't seem to have lost anything

audio adjustments - freedom of volume adjustment (not limited to steps),  more control over volume leveling (once I found where it had moved to)

adjusting canvas/project size to cropped video is easier

proxy editing seems unchanged (file by file, multiple clicks)

no reverse video but that's expected (I still have my winFF workflow for that)

color adjustment - great to have it, but it defaulted to crazy settings on the test clip I edited. I expected to go in and see Brightness zero, Contrast zero, and Saturation zero. Then I increase or decrease from the standard zero value as I choose to. Instead I got Brightness 64, Contrast 298, Saturation -100 and it looked like a black & white monster contrast cartoon. I had to set them all back to 0, 0, 0 to make the clip
 look normal (there was no reset to zero button). There was a reset button on each, but it reset to 64, 298 and -100. Crazy. Luckily it's not something I'll often use but it'll be a few extra pointless steps to reset everything to zero and then start adjusting up/down as I need. Getting those defaults to 0, 0, 0 would be useful.

Overall a great update and I'd buy right now but I might as well run out the trial.