Create new image from Stamp

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I have a series of Stamps that I've added that make for awesome background images. I find myself creating a new blank image that is sized fairly large, then adding the stamp, flattening, then auto trimming so I end up with an image that is basically the stamp.

It would be way cool and so much simpler if I could right-click my stamp and choose to create a new image using it as if I had opened it directly in the editor.
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It's an interesting request.
It might be easier to save the images to a folder, or the library. Then open the completed image when you want one.
Every new auto-stamp if you will,  will require some input from you anyway. Dimensions, Background color, Applied Effects . Depending on the image, that's like 30% to 50% of  the workload is it not.

You might be better off lobbying for a feature like actions. In Photoshop you record yourself applying effects and making adjustments to images. Then,save it as an action. Anytime you want to apply the same effect or edit to an image. You just select that action and hit play. Like Water Reflection.As an example.

 
But, I'm realistic here, I'm thinking that's a feature SnagIt may never have.
I think it would be used by more people than an auto-stamp creator thingy would.
I added the above water reflection Action to an image below. You may even discover some irony with regards to how feature requests go.

Regards,Joe

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Hi Joe

Every new auto-stamp if you will,  will require some input from you anyway. Dimensions, Background color, Applied Effects . Depending on the image, that's like 30% to 50% of  the workload is it not. 

Actually not. The stamp IS the background. Already set up and ready to go. All I do is plop it in, then flatten (without making any changes) then click Image > Auto Trim (to get rid of the surrounding bit) then I'm able to add elements (such as text and other images) on top of it. ;)

Library might be worth a shot. I'll have to investigate that avenue. Nearly everything I do is transient. I edit and save and never have a need to use the Library. Maybe that is my answer. Although, I do notice that opening it seems to take an inordinate amount of time. :(

Cheers... Rick :)
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I understand now why you don't consider size, background colors or anything else significant.

It sounds to me like you're wanting to redefine what a Stamp actually is.
If the Stamp IS the background.By definition, it is not a Stamp at all. It's an Image.

A "Stamp" is a Vector Graphic or Image that you paste over an "Existing Image".
With the capability of Re-scaling and Positioning it to taste.

Plus, your wanting to utilize the Stamps Folder to access these saved images.

Here's the rub. SnagIt HAD a feature that gave you access to images without leaving the editor.  TechSmith took that feature away in April of 2014.

Folders View.

You could have created a folder somewhere on your computer. Place your custom Stamps, images, call them whatever you like into that folder.

 Open folder view, "Highlight that Folder" then "Close Folder view"



The Folder appearing at the lower right corner of the editor. Opens and closes the "Hidden and  Selected folder" when you click it.
 It even remembers what folder is selected after you close and re-open SnagIt.



Like so many other features dropped by TechSmith. A lot of people complained when they removed folders view. It was removed with SnagIt 11.4.0

Regards,Joe
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Amen! opening the folder would be great. The current "translation" option sounds goo but would one not do the translation before making  capture edits?

Some of the more request for editing clips and art may not belong in snagit (including some of my favorites) If we want new clips that go beyond the scope of a capture / edit tool then we mat have to take them to a graphics program such as Photoshop, PSP or the new and awesome affinity where you can tweak every element in many layers if needed, then save in the native format for future editing and  export it as a PNG (Hint: start with a copy of the closest stock stamp and run with it)

They might consider a forum that would deal with all things stamps and callouts where we could take requests and help each other

I am very wary of bloat even if it is something I would use
Just another 2 cents
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So, as a follow on I had an idea of how if this feature were to be implemented, it could also accomplish solving another feature as well.

The folder view thingy Joe mentioned is a non starter. Here's why. The images I've added to the Stamp folder are used primarily as background images for memes. This means that I open the image, but need to always remember to perform a Save As, because if you don't remember to do this, after you add your text and save the file, you have just destroyed your original image. So by creating a totally new image based on the stamp, the only option available when saving would be a Save As. And that should then prevent the situation I was mentioning.

Now here's where it gets better!

Say you want an image to use as a facebook profile. Or a facebook poster. Or a YouTube channel poster or any multitude of other things. Each of those types of images generally come with a recommended pixel dimension. And one thing I know I've requested in the past was some "standard" set of image sizes offered. Kind of like what we see if you are a http://www/Canva.com  user. 



Sooo, if this ability were implemented, we could just add some stamps that were already the appropriate size. Possibly label them as we like, then we could ignore that File > New > look up and find out what the size is you need > Click OK and finally you have an appropriate canvas to use. Creating a new image the size you need would be as simple as opening your stamps folder, finding the stamp you want, right-click and create image from stamp. That would provide flexibility for the end user by allowing us to choose only the sizes we need.

Cheers... Rick :)
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I am not understanding why one would want to create an image from a stamp. Not complaining. Not challenging., I just don't get creating from a stamp in the context of Snagit stamps
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Hey "the other Rick"!

Here's the deal. I regularly create memes. So I added a collection of stamps that are similar to the new facebook color backgrounds for status updates. And I found others that are way different. So I have built a collection of them. And I *WAS* operating in the exact manner as Joe seems to insist on. Keeping them in a folder. Then opening them as needed. But that meant I had to either open the image from SnagIt (by browsing to the folder) or to open the folder first, then right-click and open the desired image in SnagIt. Then, of course, as you have pointed out yourself, if you don't immediately perform a "Save As", you often end up forgetting that you are actually working with the live image. And on more than one occasion I've done exactly that. And destroyed my original.

Soooo, it hit me that Stamps are just images. So I thought, hmmm, I'll just add these backgrounds to the Stamps folder. That way it will be way easier. I don't have to hunt for the image. I just open the stamps and poof! There they are! But it still requires me to first create a new image. Then plop the stamp atop the image. Then flatten the stamp. Then trim the excess from the surrounding areas, THEN I'm able to add the other stuff to it.

And as I was working with this, it hit me that if this workflow existed, it would also fill that other need. The one where you need to create a facebook profile pic. Or any of a multitude of other images for social media, or blog posts or whatever. For those, I typically have "cheat sheets" where I have to go look up the preferred pixel dimensions. Then I create the image. So my thought on these was that if I pre-created the exact sized images, then added those to my stamps, creating the exact sizes I need would be a snap and TechSmith wouldn't have to change the programming of the File > New dialog at all. (I had suggested in an earlier thread that they offer some standard sizes there as well as allowing us users to create our own desired sizes that might appear on a list to choose from.)

I do realize that I'm likely in the minority of users that might find this workflow appealing, but you never know where something will go until you toss it out there and discuss, no? ;)

Cheers... (The other other Rick) ;)
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Ok I get it now. Thanks
Could you not accomplish this with a SNAG document that has all the stamps, Callouts, arrows etc then just select and copy them to the new document?

Getting pictures to fit a predefined size will almost always be work. I seldom find an 850 X 315 pic that can be used in a facebook cover photo nor even a multiple of that hence the need for a photo program

I always fear bloat, an area where Techsmith needs no assistance - even on my own ideas. We discussed a layer pallet at one point as a view for what is already there. Do we need masking layers and the  ability to clip layers etc ... that needs to be done in Photoshop / Affinity / PSP / GIMP etc as that is really beyond the scope of capturing and marking up

Cheers... (The other other Rick) ;)
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I appreciate what your trying to do Rick. I do.

However,  your request would require "Redefining what a stamp actually is" Plus, reinventing Stamps functionality down to its very core.

A Stamp has always been an Image or Vector Graphic you PASTE OVER another image.


In it's current form. Navigation of the Stamps folder structure. Is difficult enough already. Do you think adding Stamps that are not even Stamps to it. Will improve matters, or make things even worse?

What happens when someone attempts to place a flattened stamp over their existing image? An annoying pop up that says you cannot do this? Confusion ?


Maybe you can come up with a name for this functionality. Ask TechSmith to add it as a New Feature.


The original Folders View would have served you well.  I  assume you never took advantage of it. You just don't realize how quickly one can open saved images from folders view. When the proper folder is pre-selected.
There is no File > New > look up involved.
 

You just click the Folder in the lower right hand corner of the "Editor". The folder opens and Poof,  Ready to select and open an image.

I really don't see how it gets much faster than that.
 I don't believe you'll find the workflow inefficient, cumbersome and slow.



You could even select multiple images. They would become accessible from the recent captures tray.
A "Pre-Selected Folder" remains selected through computer restarts. So basically, forever.
Just like a folder in Stamps.

I find it a bit perplexing, how under normal circumstances, saving your work correctly is that difficult.
If you're accidentally destroying your original files by overwriting them on a regular basis.I can only suggest that you save copy's elsewhere on your computer.
That and adjust your workflow.

Regards,Joe
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Destroying the original stamp is too easy to do if you drag it in from Windows Explorer, current the only real way to peruse your collection , If you drop a stamp onto a capture it always appears on the recent bar and in the library
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LOL, Joe, thanks for the lesson on what stamps are. I do know. In fact, I've used them for a very long while now.

Just because something "has always been that way" doesn't mean that we can't create some new workflows, no?

Seems I recall someone such as yourself arguing mightily for things in Camtasia that are along these lines. LOL

As for a total fundamental change in stamps? That's for TechSmith to decide. While I'm no programmer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, it seems pretty straightforward to me. A simple right-click option. I mean, Stamps are simple images regardless of the format. After we apply them, they can be flattened. There isn't really anything magickal about them other than the fact they exist. ;)

Anyhoo, it's just an idea. I think it's up to TechSmith to decide if it really offers any merit.

Happy Monday... Rick :)
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Just a thought: wouldn't it be easier and simpler to be able to save images as "Read-only," to prevent the overwriting problem??? For example, by making stamps Read-Only by default???
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Tentatively ... Yes. However Windows 10 changes things and they can become NOT read only. That is an idea worth playing with. I may copy a stamp into it's own folder and rename it, then run ATTRIB to set the read only bit and see if Snagit respects that or will delete it anyway
Off for testing!