CS9 UI Font Colors Are Killing My Eyes ... A Switch To White Might Substantially Reduce Eye Strain Issues?

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Most fonts in the editor UI seem to be a type of gray color; when viewed on the dark gray UI, they always look blurry to me; notwithstanding the many posts and threads on this forum, it seems to me that a simple font color switch to a white font could make a huge improvement in the editor UI; such a switch should be relatively quick and easy to implement in the code; a user option to make it so would be greatly appreciated

To make my point, I made a simple white font mock up of the editor UI ...

https://www.screencast.com/t/HTRTYzbMvcQ

I used to be able to work 12 hours straight in the CS8 UI; but after 4 hours with CS9, my eyes have had it 
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I agree Kayakman, and it's the reason I haven't migrated to CS9.  That, and the continuing version of this issue that's been noted here since the first of the year, without a "fix".

As I said several months back in that thread, if white letters (or green, for us "older' folks) on a black background is so good, why are you reading black letters on a white background?

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Good Luck kayakman,

I suggested the same thing and uploaded an image 2 months ago.It didn't get me anywhere but I'll vote yes anyway.

It's a little blurry because I didn't put a lot of work into it. But it shows what it needs to. White text on the Camtasia UI.
I whitened up the timeline scale, editing features, and all the controls as well.



I believe the  "Most fonts in the editor UI seem to be a type of gray color".

The actual color but it's hard to pin down. Because fonts fade from the center of the stroke outward.
However,
The image below was created using the same RGB values of the Camtasia Gray Backdrop for text.
 Plus, you will see the RGB values for the Light Gray and Blue fonts.

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I seemed to have missed your earlier image post, sorry about that; you did a lot more work on the UI mock-up than I did; white would definitely help here

the font colors [on my monitor] seem to be [HEX] #A7B1B7 or #5A6267; background colors #1F242A or #15191C

in any case, it just seems to me that plain white #FFFFFF would work so much better as a font color than the current selections

if possible, what is/was the link to your original posting?
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Yeah, easy to miss. It was Page 2 of this long one and somewhere around the middle.https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/camtasia-9-interface-ui?topic-reply-list[settings][p...

I posted about this so many times and with so many different mock ups and suggestions.I've lost track and hope for the most part.
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thanks; I went and looked at that post of yours; GS says I "liked" it, so I guess I'd seen it, but forgot...

considering how easy it should be to change those font colors, why are we still struggling with this issue?
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As best as I can tell. They don't seem to think the UI has a problem.
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To quote the OP of that same, consolidated, post; emphasis mine.

Since the release of Camtasia 9, some users have expressed concerns with the new interface..  In response to these concerns, we recently applied a standard design tool that measures contrasts against industry recommendations. With a couple of small exceptions, Camtasia 9’s new interface scored within recommended guidelines.

I knowingly and purposefully dropped the next sentence.

So, some industry provided recommendations and C9 is within the guidelines of those who are most important.

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I am all for better contrast, except for the punishment that Microsoft gave us with their Neon options, so have voted.
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The actual text color is nearly impossible to pin down. When you zoom into text tightly on a pixel to pixel level, pixels carry a different shade.

 

It's been over  2 months since we were all thanked for our impassioned responses and feedback regarding Camtasia's UI.
When there's new information to be shared, TechSmith will update us.

Considering how much time that has past.
The industry standards color scheme. That "WE" the consumers, are too blind to see clearly for some reason. Must be confused and dead wrong?

Mal said TechSmith's non-response reminded him of the song by Simon and Garfunkel "The sound of Silence" That was 3 weeks ago.Still nothing.

Reminds me of Alfred E. Newman. WHAT ME WORRY?

 
 
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to my eyes, the font colors looked like those in the canvas player controls ...


I do not see the pixel-like background behind the cursor effects


a monitor effect?
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Robert,

In a private email, from Techsmith, on the subject of Low Contrast / Dark Interface / Hard to use / etc. I was told

This particular post is in response to that prodding, where we are essentially stating that we won’t be providing any roadmapping (largely due to competitive business reasons).
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Hi there ExpertNovice:

Things have changed a bit and on that topic I'd recommend reviewing this thread as Wendy made a few points about some of those items.

Feel free to reach out to me directly if you'd like to discuss anything further.

-Robert
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I am using an older version of SnagIt so am not so concerned about it.  SnagIt was purchased and then, shortly afterwards, CS7 was purchased and it served my purposes MUCH better.  So, while SnagIt is used on occasion it is not really a staple.

Wendy's thread pertained to SnagIt for Windows and Mac, not C9.  Once her post on C9 is released I will read it.  If a roadmap is released shortly and states the visibility/contrast/readability/visual clarity/whatever is going to be addressed I will continue to monitor and help (with the little I help with) in these forums.  If not, hopefully I will be able to return my C9 license.  Then, if I happen to hear of some new version that makes C9 usable by me, I will test and consider purchasing.

PS.  If you can't tell, I am not mad.  Just terribly disappointed.

PPS.  Wendy stated

then we owe it to them to explain what we are (or aren’t) going to do about it.

So, if the already clarified issue with C9 is going to be changed please be very clear.  The statement was

Camtasia 9’s new interface scored within recommended guidelines.


I will point out that red stop signs are within guidelines even though there are color blind people (and it seems blind drivers...  :P).  However, the shape was added to accommodate those individuals.  The color blind, not the blind!

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It makes me Sad when I read that statement .
"Camtasia 9’s new interface scored within recommended guidelines."

WHAT !       WHAT  was that you said ?
So  clueless to customers, it is.    And many other Important  "Guidelines" it is.


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I think I misrepresented my point kayakman.
You won't see that background. I was only pointing out the fact that when you zoom in extremely  close.
Close enough to see the individual pixels that make up the UI's display.  You would see that fonts are not a solid color at all. I placed a pixel grid was over the lower part of the preivious image.So, I suppose that was confusing.
Zoomed in Close, here's what all small text actually looks like on a monitor.


That's why a color picker cannot  get you an accurate RGB value in most cases. You said you came up with certain colors and I was just pointing out how subjective text would be.
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thanks for clarifying the pixel grid thing; I had enlarged my images above a lot and they looked almost exactly like yours, but I sent them to GS at the wrong scale [too small]

I just hope this gets addressed ASAP; besides going to a white color, it seems that larger fonts could be accommodated as well throughout the UI

I'm tired of squinting with my eyes 8" from my 24" 1920x1080 screen; I even tried tweaking true-type font settings [advanced monitor settings], but no luck

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