Delete Gaps

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Very often as I edit videos, it's to edit mistakes in a presentation (where you simple do a retake without starting from scratch for a certain section, or to remove "aaah" and "uhms". So that leaves me with a video with several little gaps. 
It'd be cool to do a "universal shift-left" that removes all the gaps and consolidates all the sections that remain, instead of having to manually shift-left for every little gap...
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kayakman, Champion

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when you do a remove, do you use the ctl-X shortcut?

that will delete the selected section AND move every thing back together; that way, should should not have any gaps to worry about
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rg

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But remember:  this will not shift any locked tracks (which is good if you have something that has to remain with no deletions).
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Jay Versluis

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I do what @kayakman does. It works fine and even stitches clips together too. However, I do agree that a feature like deleting empty sections would be of benefit in Camtasia. Premiere Pro has it: right-click on an empty section in the timeline, and Premiere offers to "ripple delete" that bit. I'd love to see that feature implemented.
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Mal Reynolds

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I like this idea. While you can ripple delete as you cut (either as noted above or through my preferred [Ctrl]+[Delete], you still have to manually do it if, for example, you adjust clip speed which I need to do multiple times in many of my episodes. A one click solution to remove every gap has my vote as for me at least it would be a huge time saver.
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Am I missing something...or is Paulisenberg's question still unanswered?

We want to remove all gaps in one fell swoop...that is the point.

Help?
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Unfortunately, to my knowledge there is no way presently to achieve that. TechSmith would have to build that into the application.

I believe what has been offered thus far is a way to alter your workflow so that it becomes unnecessary for such a function to exist or be created.

Cheers... Rick :)
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IS CAMTASIA / TECHSMITH WORKING ON THIS ISSUE?
Which for all "cutters" this (I call it auto-delete) issue would be the NO 1 Timesaver for this group.
The functionality should allow to define a timeframe (0.1 sec to 10 or more seconds) from which the autodelete should start. For example: Delete all sections without sound (gaps) starting from 0.2 sec.

I do not know how complicated this would be to programm.

In my dreams It could go like this
First: There is a scanning mode where a autodetect "thing" will find all the gaps in the video/audio
2nd maybe you could see this than on the screen
3rd you will be asked: Should all the gaps bigger than X sec. "weeded" out?
press 1 for yes 2 for no
4th before 3 the current file should be stored as original.

I do not understand WHY such an Tools isn't implemented in Camtasia. 
Many guys would pay 1 to several hundred bucks to see this established.
It had to work fine. That's for sure.
If it works fine it's worth a 4 figure sum for most cutters.

so go do it Camtasia

or if not please write about the problem why you can't do it.

Roberto 




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Agreed, removing all gaps would be extremely useful.
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This has been discussed many times, here is one: 
https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/automatically_delete_silence_sections_from_audio_and_video-az7gl

Here's why automatic removal won't work: 
  • You demonstrate something while talking about it.
  • You pause speaking while doing a tricky keyboard and on-screen move
  • You pause mousing while you explain the tricky move
  • You mouse wrong or speak wrong and need to fix either/both
IBM Deep Blue can't fix all that, and even if it could, Deep Blue doesn't know what you want to emphasize. The unfortunate reality is, to make top quality screencasts, you will end up editing video then recording voiceover to match.

And when you do that, the 10 minute video you recorded will end up as a 2 minute, kick-ass, concise story.
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Mal Reynolds

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Here's why automatic removal won't work:

The original request seems to have skewed off into a completely different discussion. This one was originally about, and I quote:
"So that leaves me with a video with several little gaps
It'd be cool to do a "universal shift-left" that removes all the gaps and consolidates all the sections that remain, instead of having to manually shift-left for every little gap... "

In other words, it was about deleting gaps in the timeline, not pauses in the presentation.

( Incidentally, Deep Blue was actually IBM's chess playing machine and even some of its developers later admitted that it did not use genuine AI as such. (Coincidentally I gave a talk on this only a few weeks ago.) You may be thinking about Watson. (Ditto.) )

I had the same problem but it wasn't from the same cause as paulliesenberg; I always used Ctrl+Delete to ripple delete whenever I cut an um, ah or pause. I did, however, have the "picket fence" effect from changing clip speeds, with every gap needing to be deleted manually.

What was being talked about here in the original post is the equivalent of the one click command to remove all gaps (and adjust all unlocked tracks accordingly) in Davinci Resolve... which I've found to be a massive time saver since I (mostly) moved, hint to Techsmith, hint to Techsmith.

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Mal,

I respectfully disagree. I've edited about 150-160 screen presentations at this point. In my experience, if you arbitrarily cut any blank audio section, you will invariably cut some video of importance. If there is so little screen activity that cutting all audio gaps does NOT cause jumps in the video, then the visuals are slower than what I do!

I guess auto-cutting audio might work OK on static powerpoint slides, but not on dynamic visual content (camera video or video game replays or fast moving software demos or the like).
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I agree with Dave Millan.  And don't forget this is an option you don't have to use.

Flashback Pro from Blueberry Software (which I use because I simply can't afford Camtasia) has exactly this function to remove all inactive gaps and it saves me masses of time.

Just because an idea doesn't help one person, it doesn't mean it won't help another.
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You may want to point me to where anyone said "arbitrarily". What was being discussed was a situation where the producer of the video had made the decision to cut part of the video at various points, and had gaps as a result.

Personally I've always found that in most cases sticking a transition over the cut smooths it out without any issues, even when there's a moving background.

Again, the original discussion was NOT about auto cutting. It was about closing up the gaps that the video producer has without needing to do it one by one.
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Mal Reynolds

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Paul, who were you addressing your comment to? Because if it was me, then read what I read again; unlike some I don't shoot down other people's ideas just because I personally, don't have a use fore them. And I certainly have not done anything of the sort here. As for what it is that I "don't have to use", any explanation of what on Earth you're talking about would be useful since I wasn't saying anything about not using or not wanting a feature.

I was pointing out that the thing that was being discussed from robert.puth on down might be A subject, it just didn't happen to be the subject that the original poster was talking about. Talking about auto-cutting might be better in, oh, off the top of my head, a thread that actually dealt with that subject.
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I posted then realised I had the wrong name and edited it straight afterwards.  Sorry Mal.  To be clear I agree with YOU :)
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Mal,

I absolutely defer to your expertise on Deep Blue and Watson. It's not often that a real expert calls me on my BS.

I don't understand how any algorithm could autocut the "Um" gap at 0:10 or the long pause at 0:27 in the clip below. Please help me understand. 
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Mal Reynolds

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Paul, thanks for that.

Dave, here's how it works, because at this point I really can't put it any more diplomatically:
Step 1:  Unmount your hobby horse;
Step 2: Take off your blinkers;  and then
Step 3: Maybe, just possibly, understand that automatically cutting Ums or pauses is not (for about the third time now) what this thread was about and that at this point YOU are the only one banging on about that particular theoretical feature.

That is not to say that such a discussion can't be had or has no value, but it was NOT the topic that the original poster raised here, nor the feature that he was asking for.
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Dismounted, blinkers off, I surrender!
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Mal Reynolds

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Don't surrender! Just hit a different thread!

For what it's worth, though, I do actually agree with the point that you were making; my concern was with the original poster's request (which to my mind is an important one) getting buried under a tangent.

I believe that the part of the OP's request is at least partly addressed in C2020 but I've yet to use that in anger yet so I'm not sure to what extent and/or how well it works.