Drop selection on to recents tray

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When I working a n decomposing and recomposing a screenshot I often have large block that I need to move out of the way while I do something, and then need to move the item , or part of it, back again.

When the selected block is large, placing it elsewhere on the canvas is inconvenient, getting in the way of other edits, or resizing the image.

It would be very useful if I could drag the selection onto, or right click and choose "Place selection on Recents Tray" where it would appear as a separate capture.  I could then work on it separately or just drag it back onto the main canvas wen needed
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WORKAROUND:
I just copy the part and then file > new > new from clipboard
or ctrl+shft+n keyboard shortcut and edit it or whatever.

Then just  copy/paste back into original when ready, etc.
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Yes, I could do that but there are so many workarounds.....
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This is a situation that would be totally resolved if TechSmith were to change the editor so that items didn't vanish when we dragged them off the main image into that "ether" area surrounding the image. I call it a pasteboard and I think I saw others refer to it as an artboard?

But that is actually one way you can work past it. Drag most (but not all) of the image off onto the area surrounding the image you are working on. I find that as long as a tiny part of it is overlapping the main image, I'm able to easily drag it back onto the main image and position it where I like.

Cheers... Rick :)
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But that's part of the problem Rick.  Sometimes it just gets in the friggin' way wherever I put it.  So I end up playing musical chairs with it.
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Perhaps slightly drag an edge of the image so as to create a small transparent area where the problem segment can rest and not cover the main image?

Just thinking out loud a bit.
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I just had a use case where I was doing a before and after comparison of a complex dialog box.  Having extensively annotated the "before," I then realised I should have done a horizontal cutout on the adjacent "after."

Now of course my issues were compounded by the fact that the "after" was the original image and therefore part of the canvas, so before I could move it anywhere, I had to carefully select it. (Do I hear Rick x2 and Joe saying "layers?")
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WORKAROUND: (ether/pasteboard)
I Just go to editor preferences > editor and select "automatically expand the canvas to fit objects" and that way when I  drag a large object off the canvas it creates it’s own ether/pasteboard.
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I already have that option enabled.  It still doesn't do what I need.
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Oh you better believe it,
Just another argument for a layers panel.
The one TechSmith will probably never build into SnagIt.We had 273 yes votes for that.https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/layers-in-editor

TechSmith gave us their usual Thumbs Down response to that idea.
273 votes, with that being the bar, 273 votes are not  enough to consider the Idea. The voting system doesn't seem to get us anywhere.

 Chris Larson, Snagit Technical Product Manager Official Response

There was a lot of discussion on this Idea. And there is certainly some value for some in visualizing the layers (and keeping them hidden from others). But it didn’t get enough votes to be under consideration for a release in the next year or so. So, we are marking this one as Not Planned for the time being.

If it were a layer you would select in the layers panel. Shut it off temporarily. DONE!

I know you don't seem to like Photoshop for a lot of reasons. Yet, your constantly bring up features that Photoshop has offered pretty much since it's inception, or for many,many years.

I think Photoshop Elements is kind of Clunky to work with. I learned Photoshop with CS6.

 What I like about Elements? It's pretty much bug free, rock solid Adobe editing.You can learn core to advanced Photoshop functionality, on the cheap. Upgrade to CC later.

It really depends on your workflow, I understand all that.I don't know exactly what you do with SnagIt.But you seem like a guy who could benefit in the long run.

If you can shave some hours in your overall workload over the course of a year. Loss some frustration in the process.It's a win win in my book.

One things for sure, TechSmith won't be changing this in the near future.
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For the most part I am annotating screenshots for two audiences:

1. Help systems
2. Developers / other product manager to illustrate requirements / issues

Simplicity is key although the 2nd use case items can get pretty complex (if not very polished - it doesn't need to be).  Here's a typical example of use case 2:

 

The thing is Joe, I have Elements (15) but taking a partially complete snag file out into Elements to fix a problem, to then bring it back to SnagIt is not at all appealing when SnagIt is so good at annotation, which is 80% of my needs.
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Don't know if you have powerpoint or not but if so check it out sometime.
It's very versatile and has many ways to do customization and annotations.

You could do your snagit capture and send it to powerpoint and then work on it.
You can also add more captures  right into the slide you're working on.

Powerpoint can make the image above with the callouts,  arrows, etc.
and you can place objects off to the side of the canvas.



 Just a thought of another option.

I use it often and (for me at least) can do more in powerpoint that Snagit easier and quicker.

:)
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+1,000 for the PPT tip! I use PPT all the time for compositing images! Simple and fast.
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Oh, and one other thing about Office. I find that it's pretty easy to get it on the cheap. Usually I try and stage my purchase of Office 365 around Black Friday. I generally get it for $50. And the last round I picked up the package for 5 computers!
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Yep simple and fast.
It's like Snagit on steroids. LOL

You can also still get a standalone copy instead of the whole subscription crap but you will not get any new added features or updates with the standalone copy.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/powerpoint-2016/cfq7ttc0k5ct?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab

How ever one wants to roll.

:)
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Don't have PowerPoint.  But if PowerPoint does all that what purpose does SnagIt serve?  Just getting the initial captures?
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Speaking only for myself on this, there are lots of differences, but also lots of blurred lines. I know my existing PPT actually offers an ability to capture the screen. But I think that's the whole screen. And far too often that's overkill. I'm mostly interested in a small bit of something on my screen.

For example, today I'm working through a PPT deck of nothing but images that will end up on digital picture frames in a yoga studio. (I work with the owner to keep them updated with new events and suchlike) For several of those images, there are bits that were captured using SnagIt. Then added to PPT slides.

PPT doesn't really allow me to do cool stuff SnagIt can, such as adding interesting edges. (I've always loved the torn edge effect).

PPT does allow me to make a background transparent, but for me, SnagIt does a much better job more easily.  In PPT, I'm constantly fussing with the settings and seldom getting the results I hope for.

I suppose it just boils down to the tools you are comfortable with. For example, I have Photoshop on my system, but unless I'm seriously needing to do that bit where I "warp" an image into an odd dimension or I really need to use its awesome ability to remove an object from an image, I'm not all that comfortable with it. Even for the things I do, each time I do them it seems I have to re-learn and scour Google for a video or something. Then there's the very long wait for the app to load up and open before I can even use it. But PPT loads quickly. So does SnagIt.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Well yes kinda,  depends what one needs.

For me Snagit is great to do quick one-off captures or simple edits but if
I want to do something more complex or jazz up a capture Powerpoint is way easier
than trying/hoping Snagit can do something.

Plus the fact I don't have to export/import something back and forth from say Photoshop
saves big time.

Also I can just send a new Snagit capture right in to the slide I am working on in Powerpoint
without having to save it first.

You can temporarily drag objects off to the side off the working canvas/slide

Those are just a few pluses.

Gradients ? Not in Snagit
3D rotation ? Not in Snagit.

:)
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Was going to add...  is Powerpoint a be all do all ? NO
But I feel it does what it does well and compliments Snagit to reach a end result.
Or maybe Snagit compliments Powerpoint... Point is they work well with each other.

:)
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I don't want to use multiple tools to achieve what is supposed to be SnagIt's stock-in-trade - taking and annotating screenshots.  It doesn't seem unreasonable to have one tool that does that well.  And for me, as a SnagIt user that is SnagIt.

So I raised an idea because I wanted to make SnagIt better. 

I have used Microsoft Office and PhotoShop Elements products for years and am. in fact, black-belt certified in inflicting death by PowerPoint.
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Totally understand and agree but we know how "ideas" happen.

So...Who ya gonna call...Ghostbus...Opps wrong forum LOL

:)
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Personally, I think that it's a pipe dream to actually expect any single tool to do everything you want it to do. If anyone ever finds one, I'd love to know about it!

In my own experience, you may find a tool (such as SnagIt) that does something incredibly well. But as you grow and use the tool and encounter new and different things you want to do, you then realize that it no longer works to accomplish exactly what you want.

But I think that's just part of life and learning to cope. And why I own multiple different power saws. All of them are designed to cut wood. Each saw does a few things incredibly well. For example, my table saw is great for ripping plywood. But it sucks cheese at making precise angle cuts. That's where my compound miter saw comes in. And neither of those does well for cutting up a fallen limb. That's what my "Saws All" or my chain saw is used for.

Sure, suggest away. And hopefully at some future point what you have suggested will make it into the product. But until then, all we have are workarounds, eh? ;)

As for the idea itself, for me, dropping of a selection onto the recents tray isn't something I would use or want. I would think the much better approach for working in the manner you seem to like working in is the pasteboard or artboard idea. But only TechSmith knows for sure if ANY or none of these ideas are worth the effort. Certainly, as the suggesters, WE think they are!

But I do enjoy the discussion. Again, speaking only for myself, I find myself learning tricks and techniques and considering other perspectives that may also lead to even other tricks and techniques from the resulting discussions.

Cheers... Rick :)