Editing from Clipboard

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Earlier today I posted a discussion related to the new ability for SnagIt to work with the Windows Snipping Tool. And in pondering the nuances of that an idea was sparked.

While I might not need the option related to the Snipping Tool often, I can see how it would be helpful.

What I could see being vastly more helpful would be for SnagIt to recognize when you have copied an image to the Windows clipboard, then automatically open the image in the SnagIt editor for editing.

I must do this nearly 100 times each day. I often copy images, paste them into SnagIt Editor, then click and drag from the Recents tray to other applications. I've added the "New from Clipboard" icon to the toolbar, but it would be much better if the editor were to simply open with the image loaded and ready to go.

I know it's possible to achieve because I use another application called ClipGrab that recognizes when URLs to videos are in the Windows Clipboard.

Cheers... Rick :)
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I'm with you 100% Rick, but I fear the fat that there is the icon, or the Ctrl+Shift+N option will mean that this will be given a low priority status.  There are dozens of these little productivity gains / little bugs that could be done but they get constantly overlooked.  Wouldn't it be nice if there was a release dedicated to them?
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I can see why you would want this is a feature. But if you think about it it's really not a function of SnagIt to begin with.

It's certainly not a feature of capture. When you trigger a capture you have to select something on the screen before it can be placed on the clipboard. Unless it's a full screen capture. Either way a selection protocol is part of the process. Then it can be placed in the editor automatically for you.

Then there's the editor. Which is nothing more than an image editor. It doesn't monitor the clipboard. No more so than Photoshop, affinity photo or any other image editing program on the market.

For those fundamental reasons, I don't see any reason why it would ever become a feature of SnagIt. As convenient as it might be.

Regards, Joe
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Joe,

Rick said in his OP:

What I could see being vastly more helpful would be for SnagIt to recognize when you have copied an image to the Windows clipboard, then automatically open the image in the SnagIt editor for editing. 

The only issue I can see is that SnagIt would have to distinguish between images on the clipboard and any other type of clipboard entry.
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Indeed. And should such a feature actually be implemented, I would most certainly advocate for an option to govern behavior as we see with the new integration with other capture tools. In other words, the ability to turn off such behavior that would drive folks crazy. 
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I fully understand what you're advocating for.

I think it's a stretch to expect TechSmith to reengineer SnagIt to integrate with Windows clipboard in the way you describe. That's all I was trying to say.
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Not sure why you say that Joe.  I use a clipboard manager called "Ditto" to store the last 50 clipboard.  This free utility interacts with the clipbaord without any issues, so it can't be rocket science
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Well, try looking at the feature requests as they were implemented quite some time ago.

Then look at what we actually got out of all those feature requests. Add it together, and calculate the odds that there going to incorporate a  clipboard manager into SnagIt anytime soon.
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@Rick Stone How can you pass from the Snipping tool to th Snagit editor? I have searched and am not coming up with much. A link would work
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Hey there the Rick nobody can get mad at!

I'm not sure what you are asking. But the latest update to SnagIt has a feature that allows it to be aware of images copied from other screen capture applications. And the feature appears to be governed by this setting:



In fact, I just now had to open the Snipping Tool from Windows to grab that particular dialog, as it is modal and SnagIt cannot capture it. But the moment I finished the capture, it appeared in the SnagIt editor.

Have you updated to the latest release that was made available a few days back? If not, that's why you aren't seeing it.

Cheers... The nasty ole Rick :)
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I missed th new setting. Opening and capturing with the snipping tool and snagit did it automatically but thanks for pointing out the  setting
I am in your debt
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That is a beer BTW 
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I still think it's a gimmick, SnagIt can capture anything under the sun except its own menus. So what's the real benefit in being able to use the snipping tool and send it straight to the SnagIt editor.
That's with SnagIt capture is for.
Like I said in the other thread about the subject. I would much rather seen TechSmith spend their time to give us a new feature that we really needed. Because when it comes right down to it how often do you really need to capture a SnagIt menu? Aside from posting one here in the forum for others to see it. There's really not much use for capturing at all.
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Okay, so one thing that doesn't seem too big an ask that would also accomplish the job nicely would be a right click option for images that would open the image in the SnagIt editor.

As you can see from the image below, this already exists. But it only exists for images found in the operating system. What is shown below is what you see when you right-click an image from inside Windows Explorer.



What would be way cool is if this could be something like a browser extension or other code that would launch SnagIt when you right-clicked an image in your browser.

Cheers... Rick :)
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+1 for that one 
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The idea sounds good in theory. But you're overlooking one important problem.

When you're right clicking an image in your browser. It isn't an image that is saved/stored on your computer. That's why you can't open it with SnagIt, Photoshop, Affinity Photo or any other program.

Bottom line, you can't open an image that doesn't exist/only exists online.

Such a feature would probably require a macro that saves the image for you, to somewhere on your computer. Automatically names it, then opens SnagIt. At least that's the way I see it.

Open with is a Windows function/feature.
Funny part is, SnagIt capture does these things already. LOL

Regards, Joe
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I'd have to disagree about the image not being anywhere on my computer. It has to exist as a file with a file name or it simply wouldn't be visible in the browser.

It may only exist as a file in the browser cache, but it does, in fact, exist on the hard drive and it has a file name that was assigned to it. That's just the way the internet works. The image is a file on a remote web server somewhere, and when the web page loads up, the HTML in the web page references the file on the server. The file on the server is then fetched and transmitted to your computer and is saved as a file. Then it is presented to you from inside your web browser. In fact, if you use three different browsers to view the same web page, that same image most likely exists as three different files on your computer. To my knowledge, each browser has its own cache location on the hard drive.

Now I do agree that some action is likely needed. The action code may exist as a macro or whatever. In my own mind, such a macro would simply perform a copy just as if I had pressed Ctrl+C so that the image is in the clipboard.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Well , when you're looking at an image over the Internet. Your connected to a server somewhere. That's where the image truly resides.

While the webpage exists in a temporary file/cache. It's strictly a webpage.

Windows won't be accessing it from the open with menu.

Plus, It's not gonna reside in a proper location on your computer unless you've downloaded it, or saved it to your clipboard.

SnagIt capture can do everything that you're asking for.

So I'm really not sure what you think you're going to gain by adding it to a right-click menu.

Which is still a Windows operating system function, and something you would have to look to Microsoft to develop and deploy.
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