Excessive horizontal padding on call outs

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Please give us control over the horizontal padding in call outs so we can reduce the excessive amount that is applied by default.  Even with the existing padding control set to zero I still see unnecessary space being inserted.

Here's an example - this box is about 25% wider than it needs to be and it looks ridiculous:.
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Have you switched to the Selection Pointer, clicked on the call-out the Trackpad/Mouse pointer on center grab point on each end and moved to toward the text you can reduce the size. But if you bring the sides in too much will make height increase
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That's exactly what I had done on my example (pulled in the central grab handles).  I just could not get the left and right padding to be any less than shown in my screenshot.  I want to be able to reduce that padding 
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That's odd Paul,

I created a screen shot using this style of callout.


The level of padding I have on the sides is much lower than your example for some reason.I think were working on a different scale. But I don't think that our results should be much different with regards to font and callout size comparisons.


Regards,Joe
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That's correct Joe, I can see that too.  Now change your shape type to match mine and see what happens.  The padding changes according to the shape chosen.  I can understand that difference if the shape is fundamentally different  but when they are two rectangular boxes and the only difference is one has a callout pointer and a slightly pinched bottom (if you'll excuse the expression!) then it makes no sense at all.  I want to annotate not obliterate the underlying image.
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So I see says the blind man.LOL

I would classify this as a bug and report it as such, here's my proof



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Maybe t hey ought to put in a Padding adjustment.
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Yes - something like that would be good.  The thing is though, there is already a padding adjustment option in there.  But only one, with no indication what it applies to, and it doesn't seem to do anything.
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Hey Paul,

It effects the padding both horizontally and vertically.
The level of padding is unpredictable from my testing. Different callouts styles have varying degrees of  padding based on "Outside curvature?.

Try this. If you type some text inside a callout with the padding set to zero.


Set the padding to 50 and see what happens when you try to reduce the height of the callout.
The Text cuts off as you reach the padding limit.



Adjust the sides. As it reaches it's limit it places the text on another line if there's enough room in the callout for another line of text.But the amount padding from side to side changes according to the value on the slider.
After a little playing, the adjustment should make some sense.It's funky but it does function.lol



I still say the callout you having a problem with. Is a Bug associated with that callout,that's why  some of them work correctly.
It would probably be better if we could adjust padding both vertically and horizontally.



Regards,Joe
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Very comprehensive Joe.  Thank you.  I have reported it as a bug.

Paul
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I agree!!! Allow me to resize my call out to whatever size I want until I can fit the text with out excessive padding.  This IS a bug. Office applications allow you to resize and insert the text however you want.

The only alternative I have in Snagit Editor is to create a callout. And separately create a text box. And place it on top of my correctly sized callout. SEE MY WORKAROUND 

 


Office applications allow you to resize and insert the text however you want. In microsoft you can adjust the margins of the text box to suit your needs. 


Here's a workaround I use. But I wish the feature was there so I can do this without a workaround.
with this method I:
  1. Create a callout the way you normally do.
  2. Create a separate text box and add your text (do NOT type text in the callout).
  3. Resize the text the way I want it to display.
  4. Resize the callout to whatever margins I want. 
  5. Move the text box over the callout shape and adjust as needed.
In the example below, I made them as snug as I wanted.
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This is still an issue. It's nearly impossible to work with text boxes in close proximity to other text items because the padding is still way too much.  If I want to run text right up to the very edges, horizontally and/or vertically, I should be able to do so.
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Agreed.  Still an issue, but with only 3 votes it doesn't stand a chance of getting fixed.
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Indeed, it would be interesting to know what the "tipping point" is for vote counts. Or maybe there is no definitive number, but if you have a list of "priorities" based on a group of highly voted items, there becomes a sliding scale of sorts. Where something with a high vote count gets trumped by something else with an even higher vote count.

Just pondering out loud a bit... Rick :)
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Joe believes it is a bug, and I tend to agree.
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Agreed on the bug -- otherwise, what is the 'padding' option for. It's set to 0 yet I still have A LOT of padding there.  0 should mean edge-to-edge text.
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I am fighting this same battle! Trying to do mockups of screen designs and wording changes is a nightmare!