Extend frame without losing timing between audio tracks and video track?

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Is it possible to extend frame without losing timing between audio tracks and the video track further down the timeline?

Or in other words, can extend frame push the audio further down the timeline as well as the video?

I tried to also select my audio track segments so I could move them all down the timeline together so as to not lose their relative spacing, but it appears I cannot do that either.
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  • thinking this may not be possible.

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Charles Welford

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Dear Kelly,

Thank you for your reply.

I am using version 8.0.2.

I understand that in version 8.0.2 it is necessary for the user to move
these items around manually that previously were moved automatically in
version 7.

It turns out to be difficult to select all of the items after a particular
point in time using either of the methods you specified (dragging your
mouse or click-shift) if one has a great number of items in the project
and if one has a great number of clips on the timeline. I had a project
in which I had 50 clips from a wedding extending over an hour. In order to
select everything after someplace in the middle, I have to zoom out the
timeline in order to be able to see all of the items and grab them. But
once I do that, the clips in the middle are so short (narrow) that it is
difficult to precisely place the mouse at exactly the clip I want to start
at. It would also be extremely tedious to shift click dozens of items. So
instead I have to zoom it in partially, grab some of the things at the
end, drag them down in time, back up closer to the middle, grab those
items and move them down, etc. then I have to move everything back once I
have extended the frame in the middle and make sure that everything is
tight so that there are no gaps, which requires zooming in so that I am
sure there are no gaps. This is all very time consuming and error-prone.
in Camtasia Studio 7, I could simply extend the frame and all of the clips
after it would move the correct distance forward without creating any
gaps. Or I could shorten a clip in the middle, and all of the clips after
it would move backward the correct distance in time, leaving no gaps. You
have to understand how much easier that is.

I understand that it is preferable to edit the project from left to right
as you go along, rather than for example putting all the clips in place,
and then adding callouts and audio etc., then having to go back and move
things around if you need to change something in the middle.

However, even the most careful user of your program who has acted in such
a fashion still might decide at some point before the project is complete
that something needs to be added, deleted, extended, or whatever in the
middle of the project. Or that user might decide that an update of the
same video needs to be done six months later and something needs to be
changed in the middle of the project to reflect the updated information. I
would think that this is a very common scenario.

I continue to fail to understand why you would not want to have your
program automatically move everything in all of the tracks forward or
backward in time that have already been synchronized with all of the other
video when a user decides to extend a frame, insert a clip, lengthen or
shorten an existing clip somewhere in the middle of the project. Why
should all of these other items remained stationary in time rather than
move forward or backward to remain synchronized with the things they have
already been lined up to synchronize with? I have seen other video editors
which behave exactly as I am describing, rather than the way that Camtasia
Studio 8 is behaving, and it seems to me to be much more logical and
intuitive and less work on the part of the user.

in other words, if I have a video which has a callout which is designed to
appear at exactly 2:00, when a particular clip begins, and then I decide
that the clip at 1:00 is slightly too short and I need to extend the frame
an additional second, why would I want the callout at 2:00 to remain at
2:00 rather than automatically be moved forward to 2:01 so that it starts
still at the beginning of the clip which is now at 2:01? What user would
want the program to behave in such a way? What is the advantage of having
the program behave in such a way?

If you think some users would in fact want your program to behave in such
a way, could you at least have an option built into the program where
those users who want it to behave in such a way can choose to have it do
so, whereas other users like myself who want it to behave the way I am
describing would allow it to behave in that fashion instead?

Think about a word processor. Would you tell a user of a word processor to be sure to write the document working from start to finish, without making changes in the middle? If the user had to make changes in the middle, would you expect the user to have to mark all of the text after the change spot as a block, drag that block of text "down", make the change, mark that dragged block of text again, and drag the block back "up" until it was exactly after the change spot, instead of having the word processor simply move the text after your change spot automatically? I know your product isn't a word processor but I think the analogy is apt.


Charles R Welford M.D.