Feature request: export and/or view a list of markers added to a recording

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Hi

Not sure if this is the right place, but I have a feature request for Camtasia Studio. As I go through recordings, I add a lot of markers, with descriptions of noteworthy things, e.g. "Task 1 begins", or "User recognises something", etc. Once I've gone through the whole recording, I want to be able to see or export a list of all these markers (their times and descriptions) to a textfile or a spreadsheet.

Is this a feature that is under consideration? (I have posted a question on the forum about this and a TechSmith Support Specialist replied to say that I should put in a feature request here.)

TIA.
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Carien,

Thanks for your feedback! This is exactly the right place to add your input.

I've changed your post type from "question" to "idea" so that we can keep track of it.

Thanks!
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carien

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Ok. So feature requests go under "ideas". Thanks, I'll remember that.
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sanjay srikonda

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TWO YEARS and this STILL hasn't been implemented? is this an "idea" with amnesia?
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You can [sort of] do this now.

Produce the project to flash using the classic controller with TOC embedded in html.

Open the resulting config.xml in a text editor [Notepad, etc].

Scroll to the bottom of the document; all the markers will be listed; easy to edit here.

I've done this for years.

You could also produce using the Overlay controller with TOC, but the config.xml is not formatted correctly. However, if you open that xml with Microsoft's free XMLNotepad, then save and close, then if you open in Notepad, the file will be formatted, and the markers easy to work with at bottom of document.

The above techniques also work for captions.
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The Classic controller no longer exists as far as I can tell. I'm looking to parse the xmp file to extract the info but those files are hell to work with. Techsmith - any progress on this feature?
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with a CS8 produced config.xml file, open it with Microsoft's [free] XMLNotepad; the file will be automatically formatted for easy reading [View menu/expand all]

TOC marker text is near the bottom of file; captions too are very easy to read/edit

if you save the config.xml after opening with XMLNotepad, the formatting is preserved
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This seems pretty basic, TechSmith...
I see Markers as a strong differentiator for you guys...something as simple as being able to export them, AND to see them listed all in one place, as very key.
Another usability enhancement would be to allow listing them all together, then editing them. I find that I create markers while watching the video, often in a hurry, and I often misspell them,
Wow - what if I could review them and edit them all together, without having to jump to each one in my hour-long video!
And (be still my heart), what if there were a spellcheck I could apply!!

Thanks guys - your product is great, but pls get some of these basics in for us.
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I did a search and this has been an "enhancement" for almost 2 years. You mean to tell me in all this time a simple "export markers" hasn't been on the table?

Markers seem to drive a lot in this product yet, they seem very difficult to use elsewhere?

Why?

I wanted to merge two projects together and trying to import one into another at end of the first, imported everything BUT the markers which made the entire import process really useless.

Come on Techsmith, two years to ignore a request such as better marker handling is too long.
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Let's bump this one up. My primary Camtasia use right now is for editing and producing training videos. I repurpose most of the video by utilizing specific segments, so I add a good number of markers at the clip level. I have to manually track all the markers and timestamps separately in a text file. Being able to display and export a list of markers would save me so much time.
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Three years... great idea... pretty basic function.... NO PROGRESS? Are you listening to your users?
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the editor's markers functionality could definitely use enhancements

perhaps select the "Markers" option on this menu, view the 5 listed suggestions, and voice your opinion ...

http://cookbookplus.com/Temp/TechSmith/WishList/Ideas-ProjectManagement-QS-WithPlayer/CamtasiaStudioIdeasMenu/CamtasiaStudioIdeasMenu_player.html

as a current workaround, you can also use captions for project navigation while editing
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Hi Chris,

I just wanted to let you know people here at TechSmith see and monitor the Get Satisfaction posts including new feature requests or feature requests that might be older but still have some activity on the page.

We receive many, many feature requests via this forum, twitter, email, other social outlets, blog posts, and more. And, while we read and/or explore those, we never promise any request will make it into any future release.

We have a lot of criteria that goes into implementing new features so not every requested feature makes it into one of our programs - this particular request being one of those. That is not to say it could never be implemented in the future.

Thank you for taking the time to post on this site.

Kelly
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We know you get a lot of requests, we know all of them don't make it, we know you have your criteria... none of this was news to anyone. We wanted an update on this request. Is there a work around? Is this is part of the published files we can extract with another kind of program? Why does your team not see this as important as other feature? Maybe the reason you don't see activity is that when someone looks it up they see it already has been reported. Do you need a whole bunch of "yeah, me too" responses on old requests to make them happen?

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re ... "Is this is part of the published files we can extract with another kind of program?"

yes; see my earlier post above
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+1 my vote for adding this feature
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Please add this feature
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Camtasia Studio is fantastic as the first level post-recording editor. Having the ability to export markers, perhaps as an optional SAMI file instead of closed captions? Having to munge the XML file when we aren't certain the format will change is not a good use of time. 

In one customer environment Qumu is the video management platform. Enterprise Camtasia Studio liceneses could be sold if there were a supported utility to import markers and have the Qumu API create slides, which would mimic a major aspect of the Camtasia Smart Player behavior. It all would start with a way to export the markers in a supported way. 

So another vote for this enhancement of exporting markers.

Best, Mark
 
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Adding Import/export to Markers would really help in productivity. Editing markers in the timeline is painfully slow. 

Could Techsmith adapt the Closed caption module to create a similar module that works with Markers? Exporting and importing SAMI or SRT files seems like a perfect workflow.

There are already so many open source subtitling editors out there. Even using a simple text editor with SRT files would be easing than clicking on markers in the timeline; also, markers get bumped over a frame half the time when I click on them.
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Hi and thanks for submitting your idea/feature request!

As outlined in our New Community Processes post, feature requests are open to voting up through the first, where we will then tally the votes and present the findings to our product teams. To ensure we have the most accurate data, on the 1st of the month we will be locking the threads that were listed in the Feature Request Round-up that was posted on the 15th. Once we have reviewed the submitted feature requests, our product team(s) may respond to the request, and if that is the case then that thread will then be unlocked for further discussion.

In the event that your idea is not selected for a response feel free to resubmit the idea and share it with your colleagues to garner as much exposure as possible!

Thank you again for your idea and we look forward to hearing more from you!

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1. Export as Web Page (check "Create table of contents maskers"
2. open the generated media/index_player.htmlindex.html
3. Click "play"
4. ctrl+shift+I to open console. Then paste this shit

function msToString(ms){var s = Math.round(ms/1000); var ss = s % 60; var mm = Math.floor( s / 60); return `${mm}:${ss>9?ss:'0'+ss}`; }
Array.prototype.map.call(document.querySelector('.toc-content-container').children,(i)=>{ console.log(msToString(i.getAttribute('data-time')), i.getAttribute('aria-label')) })
5. You got the markers.
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Editing lists exist since film exists. Ignoring it is nonsense.

I produce the same presentation in different languages and it would be a lot easier if I could just save/load an editing list to the project just renaming the media name used in the last project to one with the language stated on it i.e slide_034_en.png, slide_034_fr.png, slide_034_pt_br.png. Just a simple editable text file...

Anyway, maybe that is just my multi-language brain...

Cheers all

Beto Boton
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Techsmith apparently thinks of Camtasia as an application for a single user.

There is no collaborative, corporate, or creative project that is done by a single person. Not having a cue list ("markers") means that content creators can't help editors, editors can't effectively trim or enhance a production, and production personnel cannot polish the output.

I know that corporate users have tried Camtasia. No cue list = removal from their short list.
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are you looking for a list of markers with their occur times?

if so, produce the project, and examine the config.xml with something like [free] XMLNotepad; you'll see a nice listing of markers [also, captions, hotspots, and quiz data]

see ...

How To Edit Config XML Using XMLNotepad
http://www.screencast.com/t/wTEKfiKj

you could also open the .tscproj file in a text editor, and search for "toc"; markers are listed near end of the file
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Your script girl knows how to edit xml? Some of our content developers do, but, again, most of them don't. Most of the folks don't even know what xml is.... The need is for a one-click solution intended for a non-technical (non-geek, if you will) work crew. (Thanks at least for looking at this and responding.)
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you only need to open config.xml [which is a text file] with XMLNotepad [a special text editor]; you do not need to edit the file to get the marker listing

same with a direct look into the .tscproj file; any text editor works [Notepad] and the content is nicely formatted for easy viewing

all of this is do-able by a non-technical type who can use any text editor; perhaps give it a try using a copy of your .tscproj file

FYI: the XML file is one of the files produced when you make a MP4 with controller production
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How To Find TOC Info In .tscproj File Using Text Editor
https://www.screencast.com/t/ct4ZnYF3xAg
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As I follow along your tutorial, I count something like
-- 2 to 4 processes (e.g., producing an output from the project to create the toc - which can take many, many minutes; change file extension, open in notepad, convert frames > time)
-- plus 10 or so mouse moves/key clicks along the way

Most of my personnel would not even be able to find config.xml or [ ].tscproj and possibly not even Notepad. "Text editor" is not in their lexicon.

This is because corporate workers are not computer jockeys. (I just watched one accidentally close a Word file and then be unable to find it again to re-open it... until it was pointed out to him that there is a "Recent" option in Word > File > Open. In fact, he'd never really clicked on the File menu before -- always opened things by double-clicking on a link or Explorer list.)

Meanwhile, more to the point:
A 1- or 2-click solution resulting in a Word-readable doc is the request.

That capability would result in a quickly-created, quickly-disseminated file that all of our relevant staff could open, read, and go right to work with.
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I know this is frustrating for you but Techsmith is not going to fix this overnight. Although more of their customers are moving to CMS or LMS for playback instead of using the Camtasia smart player. Those player generally support text file import for cue lists and captions , so I would think Techsmith would eventually offer a cue list export.

Here's another option:

Use captions in Camtasia to duplicate the Markers (a manual process) and then export the SRT file. You can either change the extension from .srt to .txt or to .doc. If you change it to .doc you will want to open it and change it to windows encoding when the popup comes up then save it. When they send the file back change it back to .srt. The only problem you may encounter is if they change the formatting, but that would be true of any text list.

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Dave Gehman

perhaps a minor misunderstanding ...

you do not have to produce the "project" to get the TOC; if you add markers to a project, they are written into the .tscproj file as they are entered

regardless, your request has merit, but it has been in user's "nice-to-have" list for many years now, but still as no-show

the SRT suggestion is a good one, but reported times, I believe, are in miliseconds

however, form user Charles Welford has made a utility [CamLoc] that will pull captions [and callout text] from a .tscproj; it works great, and may help you.  its out put can be output to clipboard and pasted in any app; it gives a nice, simple list

his app can be downloaded here ...
http://www.screencast.com/t/qakg1v5QJELF

perhaps read this thread ...
https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/translate-callouts?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5B...
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Cool beans. Charles Welford's app is VERY promising. Thanks, all.
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What amazes me about this is how basic this is and it's been a request for 6 years. How deaf is techsmith to their user base when they ignore a request like this for so long?
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I've spent hours confirming grabbing Markers from the config.xml.  Then hours more reading this forum.
Ugh!

Come on already!  TechSmith, I love you...BUT...
This is so painfully absurdly easy to do!! 
Export markers and a usable time stamp.  CSV.  Done.

BTW...
Getting Markers from the .tscproj file is unusable, as per Techsmith Support, at least, not if you want useful timestamps.
"the number by time is measured by frames. Since we edit at 30fps, my 48 would be at 1 second and 18 frames. However, some markers start from the beginning of the timeline where as other markers will have the time starting from the beginning of the media.  There's no way to know which one it is so I'm afraid there is not a good way to get the data you needs looking in the .tscproj file."
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this workaround might be useful ...

How To Export Markers Using Captions As Placeholders
http://www.screencast.com/t/TgwAOq6H