Fixed Vertical Object Movement in Tracks

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I've searched and have not found a shortcut for the following action. Similar to the ability of clicking anywhere on the timeline and holding down Shift and then moving all content to the right, I often times want to move chart objects on tracks up or down to another track without them shifting to the right or left. Cool feature that Camtasia tries to guess where you want the alignment to occur but if I want to be really specific about where content is positioned in my timeline, it is very frustrating because too many times when I try to shift something up or down, it shifts a little to the right or left. There needs to be a way to lock the selected objects so they can only be moved up or down.

This is helpful for example when I'm completely done with a 10 minute video that has numerous objects and I want to minimize the number of tracks. Thanks for consideration and please advise if there is a way to do this or if it will be forthcoming.
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How To Move Object Vertically On Timeline
https://www.screencast.com/t/OJsUua1O
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Thanks for sharing, didn't know that was an option. The only issue I see is that when I hold down Shift and move an object, all objects on that track move up or down which is great is some situations but not all. Anyway to highlight specific ones and then drag up or down?
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only the selected object[s] should move
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When I tested the double click object then hold down Shift, all objects to the right of the selected objects moved up. Holding down Ctrl tends to allow left/right shifting when i attempt to move up...which is undesireable along with the snapping feature at times.  Thanks for suggestion!
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the double click prepositions the playhead to the beginning of the target object

so I assume you have it working now?
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No, sorry to imply that.
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so, it's not working

could you make a short narrated screencast showing what you're seeing; please host it on screencast.com
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Let me know if this works for a visual. Many thanks!  https://www.screencast.com/t/4rNdxRXCWV8
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thanks for the screencast; it helped a lot

I was able to reproduce what you're seeing

solution ...

after double clicking to relocate playhead, click a blank place on timeline to remove focus from the object; click the object again to give it the focus, moving vertically should then only move the selected object

I suspect this is a bug

let me know if you need to see this in a screencast
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Actually, it's not a bug.
 It's the behavior in both Camtasia 8 and 9.I tested it myself. When you hold down Shift,  all un-selected media to the right of the selected media will move with it.


So the technique is sound, just "Don't Use" the "Shift key" and the one piece of selected media will stick to the timeline indicator.
If you do accidently pull it away from the timeline indicator, you just slide it back over to it. It will snap back to the indicator.

Regards,Joe

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Joe is correct; it's not a bug

like I said above, just select [after removing focus], then move [no shift key]
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I also find selecting Enable Playhead Snapping from the View menu helps to position media when you are trying to align it to another piece or media. 
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Another tip kind of inline with this is

When you have the Playhead Snapping enabled,  dragging some media sideways on a timeline to nudge it a little closer or under the playhead snapping can get in the way.

Instead of toggling Playhead Snapping on and off in the menu, Hold the control key and click on the media and move it. That temporarily disables the snapping and you can fine tune the placement of the media at the playhead without it snapping to the playhead.

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This does not work at all in my 2019 version of Camtasia. Nothing happens when I follow the tutorial above. I want to move an objekt, an icon, to another track vertically, but cant...
Can someone help me understand this?
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the method stills works in Camtasia 2019; works even if you don't hold the shift key

you need to have free space on the track you're trying to move to

you can't move to a track that's locked or disabled

perhaps do a short screencast showing the issue; host it on free Screencast.com, and share a link here

you can also select the media you want to move, use ctl-X to move it to your clipboard; then right click on the destination track, at the location you want, and select "paste" from the right click menu
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How To Move Timeline Content To Another Track In Camtasia 2019 2019-08-18
https://www.screencast.com/t/e5C4er46

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I'm not sure I fully  understand the issue?


However, you can move a timeline object/media to other tracks using the "Arrange" method. When moving media in this manner.
The Timeline Indicators position is of no consequence. It doesn't matter where it is. You're be moving the media "Only".

In this image I’m going to move a start button icon upward, to a higher track. Start by selecting the media. Then go to Edit/Arrange/ There are 4 options in the fly out window.

The Send & Bring Backward functions are grayed out. There’s only one track below it and it contains media. So it cannot be moved downward.



If you select “Bring” Forward. It will move the media to the next track upward {That has a 100% empty/available space for it} So in the image below its actually moved 2 tracks upward.

It also pushed the Sketch Motion callout up 1 track. So in this case it can affect other media as well.

Had nothing been directly above it. It would have moved the media 1 track only. So this method is a bit quirky with varying results.



The more straightforward approach is...........

If you chose Bring to Front. That will place it on the uppermost track with available space. Or create a new track. Whichever is necessary to place it above all else.



The best thing about this approach? The media will not shift Forward or Backward on the timeline.

Regards,Joe
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ylva posted that the technique described in this tutorial did not work in 2019 ...

How To Move Object Vertically On Timeline
https://www.screencast.com/t/OJsUua1O

as best I can tell, it was the only previous tutorial referenced?

I believe that was the issue expressed?
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That's fine, no one has eluded to the technique I described up until this point and time.

I was outlining  an alternative. That has nothing to do with previous postings.
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FYI, your technique does not work for caption objects

otherwise, it works fine
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Captions can be placed on any track and there appearance will be unaltered, regardless of what track there on.
So moving them for any reason is relatively pointless/futile.
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I often re-position captions to other tracks to facilitate editing, and to make it easier to update part of a caption stream using "import captions"
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It's logical their not part of "Arrange" Their always going to appear on top of all media. You cannot change there position with regards to a stacking order. So it doesn't belong in the feature.
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what you say re arrange is right, but captions are not part of any media [unless burned in]; they are scripted in the smart player

one thing that is very helpful is that you can stack captions on top of existing captions; the ones on the higher track will cover up ones on a lower track

I use this trick a lot when using captions for project navigation; when done editing/navigating, I can just add on my normal captions and the viewer is non-the-wiser