Having trouble saving videos

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I am recording my desktop making math tutorials.  I am doing all the writing with no sound and then will go back and add the audio.

I am having trouble even getting started.  I made about 15 videos and saved each with a number that I have tied to the topic name.  When I go into my file with the number names and open them, only a few match the original problem.  One video shows up for about 5 different numbers. 

I do have a list of videos in the Media Bin and those appear to be all of the videos I made.  I have no idea how to take the Media Bin videos and name and save them to be able to add the audio. 

I don't know what I am doing.  Can someone help me?
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I don't know  I follow you completely but I will attempt to help you anyway.

Every recording should have it's own unique name or number.That way you won't confuse them with one another.

If you have 20 videos on addition problems. Try saving them as Addition 1, Addition 2, etc.

10 Long Division videos. LG1,LG2,LG3,etc. Something to that effect.

That keeps the videos in the order you recorded them in at a glance without doing anything.

As for your last question, I don't know how to save math videos with unique names would be easy to organize into some master project at a later date."If that's your intention"

The  course most people take with video work.
 Would be to add several math equations,problems,or whatever it is your doing. To the timeline one at a time.
Place them in an order that makes sense. Add narration to each problem as you go. One clip at a time.
You might want to place a transition between each equation.

To me,that would be a much simpler way to go.However,I don't know what your trying to accomplish, so I could be misinterpreting your goals altogether.

Producing  videos requires  practice through trial and error.If your new to editing, it doesn't come overnight, but if you stick with it it comes to you in time.

Feel free to ask me more questions or help me understand your intentions better.

Regards,Joe

  
   
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I'm not really clear about your question. Let's start with some essentials:
(a) How did you record your videos; through the PowerPoint recorder or through the Camtasia studio recorder?
(b) Where did you save the files? Note that if you saved them without changing the options in the recorder then they have probably all been dumped into one place, which is a really bad piece of design. There is an excellent video by Naomi Skarzinski in this thread about how you can change that.

When I go into my file with the number names and open them

Which files are we talking about, the .trec files or the Camtasia project file? The .trecs, which are your actual recordings, can only be opened in Camtasia studio. Which brings me to:

I do have a list of videos in the Media Bin and those appear to be all of the videos I made.  I have no idea how to take the Media Bin videos and name and save them to be able to add the audio.
The really important thing to understand about using Camtasia is that these files in your Media Bin are not actual files; they are merely references to files that exist somewhere in your disk system. If you right click on any of the files and select either Details or Open File Location, you will be able to see where the actual files are stored.

At this point what I would suggest that you do is:
(a) Find out where those .trec files are using the methods above;
(b) Go to where you intend to make your future projects, and move the .trecs into separate folders, one for each question. The intent is to have a "one question, one Camtasia project strategy. (Of course that presumes that you don't want them all in one video.);

NOTE: At this point you can rename the files if you want to. Don't do it after you have done the next two steps, though, because Camtasia won't be able to find the files that it has references to and you'l need to manually re-link them.

(c) Create a new Camtasia project and save it into the first of those folders;
(d) Import the .trec for that project into the media bin of your new project, so that it's the only one that's there. At the moment I suspect that you're getting confused by the sheer number of recordings that you have, and it's better to have only the .trecs (or other resources that you're actually using for a project in your Media Bin for that project. You can import a .trec by using the Ctrl + i shortcut.
(e) Drag the .trec from your media bin onto your timeline. You are now ready to use the Voice Narration function to do the voice over.
(f) Repeat this for your other projects.

I do recommend that you follow Naomi's advice about setting the defaults for the recorder so that you can specify where your recordings go, though.

I hope that this at least gets you pointed in the right direction.
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Thank you both for your patience with me.  First, I'll explain what I am doing. My videos are meant to help students working in an online math course.  In this online course, students are given problems.   Before they work the problem, they have the option of seeing an example of the problem worked out.  Many of the students who struggle with math also struggle with reading.  My experience in the computer lab was that most often when a student calls you over for help, they want you to sit and help them read the problem and the explanation.

I open a problem explanation on my desktop and then record a highlighter going through the words.  I will add the audio where I am reading the words as they are highlighted.  Using a highlighter and pen, I hope to keep the students focused on the solution of the problem.  I use the pen to show where the numbers come from in the solution and the highlighter to help read.

Anyway, yesterday I recorded 19 of these solution videos.  I have 200 of them to do.  So, all I recorded was the video.  After I pressed Stop, I went to File and hit Save As.  Rather than typing out the full name of the problem/topic, I have assigned each topic name a number.  

Now, if I go to File and select Open Project, I get file names with the numbers that I named the videos.  There are 18 videos in that folder and they are "TechSmith Project" files.  

As I was trying to save my 19th video yesterday, I got a message that the file name (number) already existed.  So I started looking through the numbers and opening those files to see whether the number matched up with the correct problem.

As I sit here now, opening the TechSmith Project files, the number of files in my Media Bin, is going down.  I only have two in the Media Bin now.  I think when I started today I had 13.  Those files are .trec files.

Now, I will go down the list of named files and open them:

6019 Adding by making a ten (Correct)

6021 Adding by making a ten

6022 Adding 2-digit numbers with regrouping a hundred (Correct)

6024 Adding 2-digit numbers with regrouping a hundred

6026 Addition without regrouping using place values (Correct)

(Now my Media Bin has 11 files in it)

6067 Addition without regrouping using place values

6068 Addition without regrouping using place values

(Now my Media Bin has 16 files in it)

6087 Addition without regrouping using place values

I will stop here.  I the pattern is coming through.  So as I open the project files, the number of files (.trec) in the Media Bin changes.  The files in the Media Bin appear to be unique files, because the Duration shown is different for each one.

So, here I am.  I have some number of files in the Media Bin, which keeps changing, and I have named (numbered) files in a folder.  The files have different (assigned) names in the folder, but many appear to be duplicates.

I’d like to know how to save the videos I have made and be able to name them.  Then, when I do the audios, I will give those the same names and add the audio to the video.  I certainly don’t know how to do that yet, but figure I’ll worry about that when I have finished the videos.

Thank you for your help!

Betsy

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when you record using Camtasia Recorder, is it creating a project after you save the capture?  are you then immediately editing that project then saving it?

when you record [capture] you get .trec files; when you save a project, you get .tscproj files

if you just want to record [capture] and save those .trec files with a name of your choosing, in Recorder's tools/options, program tab, in the workflow section, put a check in "hide preview window after recording is stopped", and select "save" in the associated dropdown list

with this configuration, you will be prompted to name each new capture, but no new project will be created

after you capture/name all your recordings, you can rename them [if desired] in Explorer, then you can import them, as appropriate, into the Camtasia Editor to edit, add narration; then, save the project [as a .tcsproc], and produce

as a best practice, after editing/saving projects, export them as a zip [on file menu]; that will keep all the recording files together with the correct .tscproj files

if you zip all your work this way, afterwards you can delete all your individual recordings and project files, and just work with the appropriate project again by importing its zip back into the Camtasia Editor [file menu]

please let me know if this makes sense to you
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Now I am even having problems opening the program.  It gives me 3 options:

Get Started:

New Project (if I click on that my Media Bin is empty)

New Recording (clicking on that just opens the capture screen with the recording button)

Open Project (clicking on that opens the file with all the numbered files that had the duplicates)

I just clicked on one of the numbered files in that folder and got the big Camtasia screen to appear.  There are now 15 files showing in the Media Bin.

I don't see the "Recorder's tools/options, program tab" or see where the workflow section is on the big screen, but, I can see "Tools" if I click on Record and get the screen capture and record button.  I can also find the workflow and the box to hide preview window was already checked.

This, then, is the setup for new recordings.  I named (and, I thought, Saved) all of my recordings yesterday after pressing Stop, but as I said, the files in the folder contain duplicate recordings.

I have not done any editing.  I assumed I would do that when I go to add the audio.

Here are some questions I have:

What is a "Project" in Camtasia?  Does selecting New Project create a folder like the one that contains my duplicate numbered files?  All recordings made after doing that will go in that folder?

Why does the number of .trec files in my Media Bin keep changing?  How do I select those and name and save them?  Those seem to be the recordings I made yesterday with no duplicates.

I want to save those recordings and name them so that I can go back and add audio to them all.  I just want the "raw footage" saved until I add audio and edit if needed.

I suppose need to start by understanding the difference between the numbered (duplicate) files and the files in the Media Bin.  Then, figure out how to save what is in the media bin in the proper format and give them names.
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have you watched these Camtasia tutorials ...
https://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-camtasia.html?_ga=2.2408752.1820464321.1502909049-815980675.13657...

if not, recommend you work through them; they should answer many of your questions

regarding the start up dialog [Welcome Window] with the options on what you can do, there should be a box on it where you can un-check to have it not show anymore; you can access the Welcome Window under the Camtasia Editor's Help Menu

what you refer to as the "big screen" is the Camtasia Editor; it is separate from Camtasia recorder; Recorder captures clips [.trec files]; editor is where you edit; saved edits create a project file [.tscproj]; files in the media bin have somehow been imported into a project that was saved; note that the recordings themselves are not in the project; the project only references those recordings; edits you make in the project never modify the actual recordings
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I actually did watch the first one this morning.  It talks about record/edit/share.  Right now I just want to record and Save - and edit and share later.  I just can't figure out how to do that.
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see if this helps at all ...
https://www.screencast.com/t/wRaqEaoHooL
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That was great!  Thank you so much!  It really helped to see it done.

I created a folder on OneDrive for the trec files.  I believe I have it set up with the settings as instructed.  Now I can start making new recordings and name them and save them.

One further question.  How do I get yesterday's files out of the Media Bin and named and into my OneDrive file?  I want to see what recordings saved and where I should start with my new recordings.

The number of files from yesterday in the Media Bin keep changing (as I mentioned in an earlier post).  How do I see the full list of what is in there?
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Betsy,

First off, I'm sorry for the confusion.  File management with Camtasia definitely has a learning curve.  That's something we'd like to improve in future versions.  For now, there's some really good advice in this thread.  I'll do my best to help as well.

It's important to understand the difference between a recording and a project.
  • .trec = Camtasia Recording.  Each recording is saved as a separate file on disk.  This is your "raw footage".  These are saved automatically when you click the stop button.  You'll typically find them in the Documents/Camtasia Studio/ folder.
  • .tscproj = Camtasia Project.  A project is made from one or more media files.  You can use the same .trec in multiple projects if you like.  When you save your project, it saves the state of the Media Bin and Timeline.
With the default settings, when you click stop in the recorder, a few things happen quickly:
  1. The recording is saved as a .trec in the Documents/Camtasia Studio folder.
    By default, the file is auto-named as "Rec [date][num].trec" where [date] is the date the recording was made, and [num] is a counter so there are no duplicate files.
  2. The recording is imported into the media bin of the currently open project.
  3. The recording is added to the end of the timeline of the currently open project.
When you save your project, you're not saving the recordings, you're saving the state of the editor.  The recordings were saved automatically as described above.

In answer to your questions...
What is a "Project" in Camtasia?  Does selecting New Project create a folder like the one that contains my duplicate numbered files?  All recordings made after doing that will go in that folder?
A Project is the saved state of the Timeline and Media Bin.  Selecting New Project does not create a folder, it closes the current project and starts and new (blank) project.  As explained above, recordings are put in the Documents/Camtasia Studio folder.  If you'd like to specify where the recordings are saved when you stop recording, you'll need to change the Recorder settings.  The post from Mal Reynolds described this in detail.
Why does the number of .trec files in my Media Bin keep changing?  How do I select those and name and save them?  Those seem to be the recordings I made yesterday with no duplicates.
It sounds like you made several recordings and saved a few projects along the way.  The recordings were added to whichever project was open at the time you clicked the stop button.  That's why you have a different number of files in the media bin.  The names in the media bin come from the names on disk, and those are auto-named by default when you stop recording.  So it seems the whole auto-save thing is not helping you.  It really sounds like you need more control over the names and folders where the recordings are saved.

Let's change the default recorder settings so that you get a Save As... dialog when you click the stop button (instead of the auto-named file).  This will let you specify the name and folder of the saved .trec file when you stop recording.

To configure Camtasia Recorder to display a Save dialog when you click the Stop button...
  1. In Camtasia Recorder, select Tools > Options...
  2. In the Tools Options dialog, on the General tab, select the File options... button
  3. Select the "Ask for file name" option.
  4. Click OK in both dialogs to accept these changes.


If you have other questions, please let us know.  There's a lot of good advice in this thread that should help you get Camtasia configured to better suit your workflow.
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Dave, trust you are doing well

Regarding your #3 above ... "The recording is added to the end of the timeline of the currently open project" ...

I am never seeing that behavior; what Recorder configurations will cause that behavior?

Thanks
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Hi Bob,

I'm well.  I hope you are too :)

You're right.  We've tried to tweak the behavior so many times to improve usability, I lost track.  It looks like what we're currently doing is... if there's nothing on the timeline, we import the recording into the media bin *and* add it to the timeline.  If there's already something on the timeline, then we just import the newly recorded video into the media bin.  Thanks for keeping me honest :)
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thanks Dave

personally, I wish it did behave the way you initially stated; as I recall, it did so way back when with CS6; that behavior [new capture to end of timeline] really helped speed up editing out my tutorial projects

for me ... best of both worlds ... would be to stick new captures into bin with a pop-up dialog asking also send to end of timeline? :)
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Thank you, Dave, for the explanation.  I think I have the custom settings that I am looking for, but haven't tried doing a new recording yet.  I first wanted to see which I have from yesterday.

I have a question about something you wrote:

With the default settings, when you click stop in the recorder, a few things happen quickly:
  1. The recording is saved as a .trec in the Documents/Camtasia Studio folder.
My Documents/Camtasia file folder contains for Type:  Techsmith Project.  I don't see any trec files in that folder.

I would like to somehow find all of the trec files I created yesterday.  I looked through what is showing in my Media Bin and there are about five of them missing. How do I see all that are in the Media Bin?  The list of files changes in there.  It was as high as 15 and as low as 2 today.
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Hi Betsy,

Each project has its own media bin.  The media bin is just the media that are *referenced* by your project.  These are *not* the files themselves, just references to the files on disk.  If you right-click on one of the .trec files in the media bin and choose Open File Location... it will open Windows Explorer to the folder where this recording exists on disk.  That should help you locate your recordings from yesterday.

Hope this helps.
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It does help!  I found them all, thank you!
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They were below the numbered files and I didn't see them before.
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Betsy, perhaps view this; I had forgotten that I had produced it earlier this year; hopefully it might help ...

About Camtasia Project File Types
http://www.screencast.com/t/nkfJX0S49i9A
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Heya, do you by chance have an updated - Kayakman's favorite hits PDF you could share? ;)
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is this what you're looking for ...
http://www.cookbookplus.com/Videos/Menus/TechSmith-CamtasiaStudio-HowTo.pdf

that link is available at the end of each of the tutorials in my collection
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Thank you.