How do I work between Camtasia and Adobe Premiere?

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Hey there,
Is there an easy way to work between Camtasia and Adobe premiere? Currently every time I do this I have to go through and export each file individually through .mov format. I am wasting time exporting each file individually and I believe I am losing quality through every export. Is there a way to export everything I recorded all at once without losing quality?
I thank you for reading this and will keep an eye out for your suggestions and ideas,
JC
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*Bump*
Does anyone who records with Camtasia and edits in premiere have some tips?
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Likely part of the issue here is that you are on Mac platform. While I know there are users of Camtasia for Mac, I would think they are still in somewhat of a minority. Then you factor in the number that are working in the manner you seem to be wanting and i'd be willing to bet that number is tiny.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Let me ask you a different question: How do I export each track simultaneously at once?
I don’t want to individually export every file...
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To export any arbitrary collection of tracks, including just one track, turn off the unwanted tracks (eyeball icon near track name) and export (share) as usual.

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Thanks for this. I always thought I had to delete the track in order to hide it. Also, this only works for individual track exports, not multiple track exports?
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You can turn on or off as many tracks as you want. Just the "ON" tracks will export. 
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To build on to your response. If I export 2 or more tracks will it convert it into 1? Or will it maintain the 2 tracks? 
For example, some file formats can have multiple audio tracks. Like "mkv" and ".mp4"
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When you export from Camtasia (Share), you get one file, no matter how many tracks you have active. I think the answer is to extract the raw video file from the TREC file, see my other answers on this thread. Hopefully somebody here knows how.
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ExeJC,
What exactly are you trying to do? I use Camtasia and Premiere on Mac. My workflow is simple: use Camtasia unless I need a feature Camtasia doesn't have (import PNG sequence, reverse video, motion mask), then use premiere to create the clip with that feature and output a high-rez video back to the Camtasia timeline.

You are correct that if you arbitrarily export back and forth you may be losing quality. So please be very specific and tell us what you want to do. 

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Thanks for responding,
What I want to do is record through Camtasia and use Premiere as the main editing program. I record high-resolution games and do a lot of editing, but the Camtasia platform does not supply features I highly use (motion tracking, photos, etc).
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EzeJC, 
So on windows, I think you can configure Camtasia to record to .AVI instead of .TREC, which would work for you. But on the mac that option doesn't exist. 

However, the secret of the .TREC file is that it is actually a folder with several files inside, including a raw video file. At one time I knew the trick for getting to that raw video file, but I can't find it anymore. Can someone else help EzeJC with this information?


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I'm on a Mac OS as well. I think the .Trec files are in a format similar to .mkv but limited to Camtasia programs being the only ones caple of reading the files.
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I just looked up .MKV files. Yes, it appears that .TREC files are a similar container file, proprietary to Camtasia.
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If only Camtasia Mac had .AVI files. This feature would have to be requested though and may never appear...
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In Camtasia for Windows you can right click a .trec file in the media bin and select "Extract recording  contents" and you get a .avi file and separate audio file if you recorded a microphone and system audio.

I don't own a MAC so I don't know if you can extract your .trecs or not.

This feature existed for .camrec's  as well. It vanished when .trec's were first introduced replacing .camrec's.

I'm one of those people that edit Camtasia recordings in Premier Pro. So I caught the problem right away.
https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/extract-the-contents-of-a-trec-recording

It took TechSmith over a year to fix this shortcoming.

Regards,Joe 



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Here's the problem. The TSCC codec that Camtasia uses is so old and inefficient that Premiere dropped support. There is no way to take your recordings into Premiere directly. I know ... I tried for days and I failed. It looks horrible because the video freezes, moving things leave trails, and it generally stinks. Its not your fault.

Yes, it USED to work, but it no longer does. No one at Camtasia will say that.

Someday, Camstasia will record into MP4 directly and it will solve this embarrassing confusion.

So, now the solution.

You need to take each and every AVI file from Camtasia and transcode / convert / re-save them into a new format. I use MP4 because its solid, more current, and works.

If you're a Premiere fan, you can also use another recording app entirely. I know someone trying out Bandicam and they love it. Plus, its free.


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just exported a large movie and need to still edit the audio (in premiere), premiere is saying unsupported compression type...
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I previously covered exactly how to make it work in the post directly above yours. In short, it does not work unless you take every video and trans-code and convert it.

Since I wrote that post, I have spent a lot of time using Bandicam. It uses current technology and records DIRECTLY into MP4, which Premiere loves and it works flawlessly. If you're an audio nerd, Bandicam lets  you record a separate un-compressed .WAV audio track. Wow.

The results is not a single glitch! Record once, edit once.

You can even try out Bandicam for free (with a 10-minute recording limit and watermark.) To buy, its only $40 compared to $250 for Camtasia, or 84% cheaper for a superior product.

Camtasia has gotten lazy and sloppy and is using technology so old that Adobe dropped support. That's your problem.
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Are you saying Premiere Pro 2020 is the problem?

 I'm still running Premiere Pro 2019.
I usually upgrade to major new versions in March or April. Because Adobe dumps bug ridden versions on its customers.I think they turn users into guinea pigs. Take bug reports and fix the reported errors. SO I wait a minimum of 6 months to upgrade.
Premier Pro does so much, new bells and whistles are great. But rarely a necessity.

I can import .trec's into 2019 without issue.
And will leave 2019 installed for that reason if necessary.
2020 records to mp4 but will not extract the contents. Which to be quite frank, is choosing lower grade video  overall to work with.
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RE: Are you saying Premiere Pro 2020 is the problem?

No! It's Camtasia!

This has been a problem for at least three years, maybe longer. (Check the forums) I record a lot of screen capture videos for online learning. For the last three plus years I have had to manually, one-by-one, convert each and every Camtasia video into another format so Premiere will smoothly and reliably edit it. You lose both quality and time.

Yes, in the glorious past it worked. But for whatever reason, Adobe Premiere moved on to superior formats and technology. Camtasia is coasting with their older (obsolete?) tech -- so I got really tired of all the work-arounds. Problems include >  video freezing, moving things leave trails, video behind the audio .... and, yes,  sometimes things were OK. But, usually not. It was an un-usable work-flow.

Think if it this way > Many people use Premiere to edit video from a DSLR, a camcorder or smart phones. It works EVERY TIME because both are using current codecs and formats. That's your comparison. 

I don't have to do that with Bandicam. It uses MP4 and it is flawless every time. It took me no more than an hour to learn it. It's simple. TRY IT! The future is sometime a bumpy road. But, when you get there, it might be better. 


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Well Dave Schultze

I'm saying its not a problem with Premier Pro 2019 on my computer.

Heres an extracted .trec File  on my desktop from Camtasia 2020.

 

And here's both of those videos on Premier Pro 2019's  timeline playing back without any problems whatsoever.



I made that recording in April of this year.
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Heres a 10 second recording I just made. System audio enabled, but there was none to capture.
I'm sorry you're having problems. I'm not.

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AH, this is the Mac forum. Perhaps thats the Problem????
I'm a Windows user.

.trec is a cross platform codec. So, I can't explain the discrepancy between platforms.

I highly doubt  Adobe dropped support on the Mac side and kept it on the Windows side.

It sounds more like a move Apple would have pulled. They pulled that crap with QuickTime and Windows users.

Sorry about you're misfortune, its not the codec on my end. Which is TechSmith
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This forum was created for people who had trouble with the interoperability between Camtasia and Premiere. There are lots of posts online I have read that report the exact same problem. Me too!

You are very fortunate that it works for you! Awesomeness. 

In my research, I was told by the online training company I consult for (10,000 + courses) that their editors and engineers are well aware of the issue. They have advised me to (1) trans-code every Camtasia file or (2) use an alternative, like Bandicam. And ... it worked! So, I shared it on a forum where others had the same problem. 

Yes, Adobe 'started it' by dropping support, but Camtasia made it worse by not bothering to update. They can update any time they want to, but they have chosen not to. Oh well. 

if you use the Camtasia capturing app with their editing app, it is seamless and efficient. I did that a few times, but I need the professional commands and controls inside Premiere. So there ya go.
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I'm curious, what codec do you use with Bandicam?
In case Windows users face the same dilemma as you one day.

Because I've played around with a lot of screen recorders,including Bandicam. And overall.
None of them quite match the quality of TechSmiths TSC2 codec . In my opinion.
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I use MP4, which encodes both audio and video. Compression set to maximum quality.
As a back-up, I also capture an extra audio stream using .WAV uncompressed.
If you want the higher quality audio, you can mute or delete the MP4 audio tracks.
The WAV will be the exact same length, so it will register exactly on the timeline when you drop it in..
The WAV works GREAT if you plan to run some filters on it.

Both the MP4 and WAV files preview and export flawlessly in Premiere. I've never seen a single error or glitch.