how to combine multiple archives in snagit

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Over the years I've gone through a bunch of laptops, and have multiple snagarchives sitting in various directories.  How can I combine multiple archvies into one uber archive?   All I can see is that the standard backup/restore says it overwrites the existing directory.   If there is no workaround, wow - what a chance for a major RFE.

Beyond my problem, I can imaging various ways you could get a new version of Snagit, capture some images, and then "SMH", you realize you didn't restore the backup archive.  Now you either ignore the old back up, or sacrifice the new images to get the old images back. 

Any ideas on how to make this work?


I'm using Snagit 11, but archives will have been made by various versions of Snagit

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There's no direct way to combine archives.  As you found out, importing an archive overwrites the existing one. The only way that I know of combining captures is the laborious task of opening up each individual capture in the old archive and make a new capture so that it joins the new archive.

As it stands right now all I know is that you can keep the old archives around in a isolated backup folder to make sure they stay safe and import them as needed.  That's not a great solution either. 

Maybe somebody else has a better suggestion for you.
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 I've got a workaround for you.

There's a number of steps involved. This video makes it easer to demonstrate the technique.
http://www.screencast.com/t/9ltq7BtR

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Here's another possibility.  You can use the datastore folder or any folder for this.  Probably I'd use just a normal folder as a test.

Outside of Snagit, move everything to that folder with any file manager.  Now you can open anything in that folder with the original name from Snagit.  What this won't do is show these captures from within the library because this is done outside of Snagit.  However, once it's opened it will show up.

I think this is essentially the same thing that Joe suggested above but without the batch conversion wizard.  I was listening to Joe's video as I was writing.  So, I'm saying just move files and then open them within Snagit in the way Joe suggested in the video.
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I know where you're coming form Manny. That was my original approach as well.

If you batch convert all the different Data Store files. Maintaining the same order they were originally captured. 
 You "MAY" have some Idea where to locate what you're looking for. Although, it's probably not a very reliable approach.
Plus, with a collection of independent Data Stores.
 A large percentage of the "SNAG_Program.000?" unnamed files. The numbers are likely to be the same. How could you "Import and Sort " all those files without  manually  changing all the conflicting numbers?  Maybe I'm just thinking this through wrong? Wouldn't be the first time, LOL.

But that's why I went with a numerical concept. I didn't know where else to start. Not if you want to access all your images from the Library.

 There's probably other approachs, and this hasn't been tested much. But I've already spent to much time on this one already.
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I'm not exactly sure what those SNAG_Program.000? files are but they aren't related to captures since they aren't image formats.  In fact, I don't have any such files in my datastore but only SNAG files for the automatically saved captures.  These files - the SNAG - incorporate the date/time stamp in the filename so they are in fact automatically sorted that way.

The major problem, on which I think we both agree, that regardless how things are combined they don't show up within Snagit until those files are manually opened by Snagit.  I'm not sure why TS can't code this so that datastores can be combined rather than overwritten.  Maybe I'm missing something but I wish somebody would say something about it.

How many of these SNAG_Program.000? files do you have anyway and what do you think they are?
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Like I said, Maybe I'm just thinking this through wrong?  But unsaved captures appear this way in the Library.


So I took 4 "SNAG_Program.000?"  Images from my Library. The Question mark I used was intended to represent that the number is always different.

After I  and copied and pasted them " Directly from the Library" into a folder on my Desktop. I took another "SNAG_Program.000?" Image from the library and Pasted it onto my desktop. Renamed it by changing the Number only. I changed it to a number that I just imported previously. Because that number was already in the folder. I got the standard Pop up for that situation. As a result, I cannot import it.

If you are combining several data stores that contain unsaved captures. You are likely to have some with the same numbers. Especially since the Data Stores are all created starting with the number one. I would think the same would apply to png's as well.
Aside from batch converting to rename all the files. I couldn't think of a faster way to advert these file conflicts.


Are your unsaved Data Store files Different Somehow???
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I see that's V12 which I'm not running but I don't think Snagit automatically saves anything as a PNG.  As far as I remember from 12 they still use the SNAG format for automatic saves.  I think this is a special profile you got working Joe.

I don't have time right now but later today I'll switch to V12 and see what happens.

[That girls looks, well, a bit chilly by that lake.]
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I actually just looked in my data store. The Data Store shows I have 75 Image files. Yet the Library contains 151 images. Some are imported from my computer and  were never captured to begin with.

The funny part is, I went through and deleted the saved Images from the library, except for just a few. And now the Data Store appears to be almost empty.  Maybe unsaved captures are stored somewhere else?


That girls looks, well, Photo Shopped using the quick selection tool and refine edge. "Hint" It took me less than 2 minutes to remove her from a completely different background and place her there. Try to capture that hair with Transparency using  any other program. It was actually an Image Imported into the SnagIt library. I was experimenting with a program that allows you to display  multiple Images on your Desktop at the same time. I was shooting for a more interesting image than a typical screen capture. It was actually created to address another forum  question.



Quick Follow up here.
I believe no matter how many versions of SnagIt you have installed on the same computer. They all share the same Data Store. Here Is a Image of my SnagIt 11 Library after deleting saved captures.

 

And, I changed the color of her sweater. Why, I don't remember. Try that in SnagIt. LOL, just kidding around.
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So I figured out what the "SNAG_Program.000?" file is.
 They were  created using the profile that  I use for sending my captures directly into Photoshop.

I have the editor set to not preview the images but it still stores a thumbnail link  in the Library. The captured Image is actually sent to the SnagIt folder in my Documents.
But it seems to me that it would create confusion for anybody that uses a capture profile.
Bottom line, there should be a better way to import previous Data Store files. Or maybe I should say Library files. This discovery just muddied the waters a bit more. But batch converting everything would get it done.
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The so called library contains the file in the datastore, i.e. the auto saved captures, plus anything else a user saved from within Snagit.  The library is just a file manager that keeps up with all things done within Snagit.  So it's perfectly reasonable for the datastore to have less files than shown in the library.

With V12 you do have the option where to locate the datastore whereas prior versions were fixed.  While  you can share the datastore among multiple versions it doesn't work particularly well because the files handled in another version don't show up for all versions.  It's possible to open them of course but the library of one version doesn't necessarily know what happened in another version.  This stumped me for a while with V12.  Add that V12 can be in a totally different location then sharing stores becomes really problematical.  I keep the datastore from V11, which I mainly use, and V12 separate.

At least we solved the mystery of the profile and I would agree that there's a potential for identical filenames with that and your batch renaming would handle that.  I suspect most folks won't have that problem since Snagit itself names auto saved files uniquely and the manually saved files shouldn't be an issue.

I guess that girl isn't chilly but just showing off and doing it well.
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