I want to create subfolders on Screencast.com

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i need to organize videos and playlists into subfolders. how do i create a folder inside another folder?
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Mike Curtis, Employee

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Currently Screencast.com does not support subfolders. In addition, content can only exist in one folder. This is a popular request and I'll change this to an idea. In fact, I was just in a discussion with the Screencast.com team about how we could make it easier to find and manage content.
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Hi Mike. Like Jeff, I'm very frustrated at being unable to make it easier for viewers to find what they want/need to see. It's not about keeping a video in more than one place, it simply sits in a subfolder with fewer other items around it. I guess you work in a room/office in a building and if you're expecting a visitor do you just tell them the name of the street or help them refine their search?! C'mon guys! Great product but this is really a no-brainer requirement...
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Agreed. It's so basic and really necessary when you build a library of content.
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I totally agree - I would love to be able to put all my job folders into sub-folders and mail one link to the client. It is the one major disadvantage of Screencast at present.
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I also agree that subfolders would be an extremely valuable feature for organizing content. Tags don't serve me well.
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bummer. tough to organize a large content library that is broad in scope serving a varied audience with only a single folder structure layer. and it appears from your other reply, no ability to put playlists even in the top level folders. can quickly get out of control / unmanageable.

if there is anything i can do to facilitate this or the other functionalities I inquired about in future feature releases, please let me know. i am a volunteer for a non-profit reviewing screencast for education of our volunteer base. we've got 40 geographic regions and a few thousand volunteers. there is so much that is GREAT about the platform so we would love to make it work. if interested, i would be more than happy to detail the specifics of our structure and needs. i can't imagine we're that unique, so would expect any takeaways would be applicable to your broader user base.
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Hi Jeff,
Thank you again for giving Screencast.com a try. You have some very good and interesting ideas and I would love to speak with you in more detail. As Mike stated above, we are actively working on different solutions to the problem of organizing content.

Screencast.com started out with a folder paradigm that makes subfolders seem like a reasonable idea. However, we're experimenting with doing a better job of making content findable through keywords and metadata, which may make the folder concept obsolete (think Gmail and labels). There are lots of "behind the scenes" things that we need to consider, and in order to integrate with more external services and processes, a folder-based method of content storage may not make the best sense. Regardless, I'm sure whatever we do may spark controversy so I'm looking for everyone's thoughts and comments on the concept of content organization

Keep the thoughts and comments coming!

Dirk
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Sounds interesting - although I will point out that I have sometimes wished that Gmail's labels could work in a hierarchical format (which I think is now possible). So, labels are not a bad way to go - but it would be nice to be able to make those labels hierarchical.

Or perhaps a combination of categories and tags - like on a blog. Categories could be hierarchical and tags flat - don't know if that creates technical problems, but it may be worth exploring.
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Dirk, I would be more than happy to speak with you about the details of our needs. Let me know when/how best to reach you.
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Cheers all,
I agree about the heirarchy needs. I think it needs to be said that what we are discussing here is robustness of the capability and it's correlation to monetizing screencast. In simple terms if it can;t accomodate larger scale use. The value prop for the Pro version is hamstrung. I endeavor for two organizations that can make use of the functionality this provides, but only at a magnitude that makes using this systemically is sensible as opposed to casually. Without that capability its hard to show you the money :-)
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Dirk, it sounds like you're saying that screencast is look more towards a database model of organizing content. If it went in that direction, I would agree, it would be far more sophisticated than simply creating a folder hierarchy. Can you give us an idea of what kind of a time frame Screencast users are looking at before we start to see some changes? i understand you might not have that information because of how much back-end structure might be needed, but can you let us know, if we're looking at months, a year, years, etc.? Just having an idea would be very good as we decide how to maintain our content.
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hi dirk i need help i wrot a question to because i am lost and i need help i am lost i have no clue what i am doing do you think you can help me
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I would like the ability to have sub-folders on Screencast.com so that I can better organize my content.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Adding Subfolders to Screencast.com.
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Nice, thanks Moshe. I expect if we go down this path, we'll share the progress and look for feedback here. I have to admit I don't use Gmail's tag functionality, although I know I probably should. I am familiar with the categories and tags on a blog. It would be neat if people could make little Jing videos of any workflows they particularly like or dislike in other apps. I think it might be nice to achieve a "Windows-explorer-like" capability (I am bracing for the gripes here) for those who are used to that, but also some way of achieving a more "blog-like" workflow as well.
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It sounds like this is related to my interest in having sub-folders in the Camtasia library.

In reality, the folders that do exist are nothihng more than XML descripters -- and perhaps the Screencast folders are the same way?

Please add my vote for sub-folders on Screencast.com, however you achieve it.

AND JEFF -- I'd like to know more about what you are doing and the organization you are with. I have been interested in working with non-profits myself. Perhaps I can help?

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Bruce Rothwell
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I am considering converting to the Pro account. A critical piece for me would be the ability to nest folders so I can stagger the access to content by week in a class. Having a miasma of folders at the same level will make evrything very confusing. What's up with this

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
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Subfolders are necessary to organize content, and to distribute effectively. Signing up for Screencast was step one in our organization's effort to digitally archive content, though it has been less than successful because I would have to have search through many folders to find one file. I am very please with the ease of use, but how long before we know if this will be an option for Screencast users?

Thanks for starting the discussion, Jeff.
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Another vote for sub-folder capability. I have heard Techsmith employees frequently say, "We just came from a meeting that was discussing that...". Maybe time to move from discussion to action? :-)
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I'm a Screencast user, and I often find this and other limitations frustrating. Subfolders would be a nice start.
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Hi everyone. We're working on something that will hopefully solve a lot of the issues you raise. It might not be subfolders in the sense of Windows Explorer, but there is no doubt we can make it a lot easier to manage and organize your content.

We haven't put a lot of development into this yet, but next week either I or a developer will make a video to show you what we have so far and what we're thinking. We'd love your feedback!

Until then, have a great weekend!
Mike Curtis
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As promised on Friday, here's a peek at what Jared and Evan have been working on. It's early, and we'll have more updates, but check out this 4:12 video to see the latest. It's quite a change--hopefully for the best!

Let us know what you think so far!

Video demo: http://www.screencast.com/t/LHkNwksp
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It looks like a serious improvement :).

With that said, I still would like some traditional folders - my mind just works in that way. The other ideas you mentioned are fine - I imagine you could have those and folders and sub-folders also.

The left hand panel is all set up for sub-folders basically, just need to add some tree-like structuring. In terms of the central area - perhaps give people the option to view it in different formats (folder-view, tag-view, playlist-view, everything, etc.).

Also - in terms of search - perhaps have drop-down whereby we can indicate what we want to search (everything, a particular folder, a particular tag, etc. - perhaps even groups of folders, tags also).

Be well,

Moshe
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Thanks Moshe, I noticed since the screencast is hosted on Screencast.com, there have been a number of views but only one comment. Any more thoughts? I debated changing the title of this thread to be a little more general and talk about management and organization in general, but perhaps the correct thing to do is a new thread on that category and keep this one on the strict notion of sub-folders.

It's tricky because essentially we're overhauling the whole Library and it touches many aspects of the workflow.

We'll get you a new update next week!
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Cheers Moshe,
A good attemt even if directionally different than the traditional. I think you may have something in the share concept. Ultimately I want to create a bunch of artifacts and then create a play list within a folder so it can chronologically build into a steam of consiousness that I am trying to communcate. With that said sharing them into different folders is a good thing as I can correct the artifact in one palce and all the folders using this artifact are automatically updated to the new version. If you can do this and I can send people to the particualr folder. Most of my needs are taken into account. A tactical note if I had the ability to callan artifact somethinglike step 1 in one folder and link it to the file in another folder where the original is called time value of money than I can get around like I need to. Maybe you can allow an object that would be a playlist that we could customize so they clik from the lsit and the other object invokes.

Regards

Ted Haas
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Greetings to everyone participating on this thread. Thanks again for your time and feedback. I made a new, more general thread about management and organization over here: http://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmi...

I'm going to make another video update this week. I was thinking we should keep this post more specific to sub-folders only. Does that work for you?
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Hi Mike. I've just looked at your"taster" and recognise you and the team have been putting a lot of work in on this. Possibly, for many of us users, too much refinement! By having a simple sub-folder, we can update (i.e. replace but use the same title) video and the viewer won't have any hassle getting to it, whilst we've responded to the client/viewer's needs. In simplistic terms, our main folder is 'My Library' and then any folders we put inside are, in fact, sub-folders of 'My Library'. So, why can't we just continue that hierarchy-type? I'm along with raylasky12 & TedHaas12 on this (except that I can't fathom the emoticons, when I thought I had!) I remain, frustratedly, waiting in hope...
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You should have deeper directories. I should be able to create a folder, and then inside that folder, another folder and so on.

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Need deeper directories.
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With no sub-folders...then my customers can SEE what else is in the folder. I need sub-folders so my viewers have a very limited and controlled experience. I want to give them very easy access...but I dont want my public viewers to be able to see other clips in the same folder.
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Exactly!
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We really like this idea! We are putting more and more material on screencast, and being able to divide it into client folders would be very, very helpful.
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Hi Mike. I've just looked at your"taster" and recognise you and the team have been putting a lot of work in on this. Possibly, for many of us users, too much refinement! By having a simple sub-folder, we can update (i.e. replace but use the same title) video and the viewer won't have any hassle getting to it, whilst we've responded to the client/viewer's needs. In simplistic terms, our main folder is 'My Library' and then any folders we put inside are, in fact, sub-folders of 'My Library'. So, why can't we just continue that hierarchy-type? I'm along with raylasky12 & TedHaas12 on this (except that I can't fathom the emoticons, when I thought I had!) I remain, frustratedly, waiting in hope...
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Here's another request for sub-directories. Or if that isn't technically feasible in the short term, how about allowing us to move playlists into a folder? And maybe change the playlist icon to look like a folder...
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Cheers All,
Its been a couple of months and maybe a bit more, We have circled the bowl here with maybe a half dozen very nicely crafted verbal variations on the same functionality. Personally I don't much care what we call it, the same basic need to segregate and structure content is what is being asked for here. I appreciate this is a directional change, but from my perspective its a deal maker or a deal breaker. If this is destined to be a recreational capapbiltiy fine. If it is desired that more industrial strength users be attracted something needs to be done. Having given two months time to see what will happen here and seeing the response and progress I think I have to widen my net and see if other alternatives that fit our needs exist. I am not abandoning the hope that Screencast will in the end be our solution. But time is wasting and before too long some decisions must be made. Best wishes
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Ted and others,

What comparable alternatives to Screencast have you considered? i.e. not including Youtube etc. Something with equivalent or better file management, security/authentication, performance, playlist authoring etc. capabilities? either for corporate or educational use.
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Sorenson 360 is an excellent alternative. At $99 per month that is - what? - 12 times more expensive than Screencast. So it's not cheap. http://www.sorensonmedia.com/video-de...

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