I don't understand the logic to this

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First I want to say Thank You Techsmith for finally fixing the ability to align the shadow to the center of a object. Awesome.

On to the subject of the title.

The update has that there is "Changes to the way the properties and effects panels are hidden"


Before to hide or open the sidebar you could just click on the Effects or Properties text/tab at the bottom of the panel. Easy Peasy.

Now you have to navigate to the view menu and then you have Properties or Side Bar to choose from.




One. No Shortcut key for the Side Bar option?

Two. Half the time the Properties option is grayed out.

My question is

How does this change help a workflow?

Instead of just clicking the text like before simple and quick to hide or open the panel, now one has to navigate through a menu and then ponder on what they should click.

Properties ??? If it's active.
Side Bar ???

This change would be useful if there was a shortcut key but as it stands it just added a hassle to something that was easy and quick.

Unless I'm missing something I don't understand your logic to this change.


Dubie

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I still have two tabs on the right hand panel and can click either one without using the menu to toggle EFFECTS and PROPERTIES

If you are trying to toggle that panel on and off  then menu shortcuts ALT +V then E will do it 
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I will have to disagree on that.

Are you on Snagit 2019.1.1  ?

I know how the underline menu letters work but there are none shown in the menus in Snagit. Not for me anyways.



So testing  with the Alt+V then E shortcut  there lies a problem.

Using the menu above If I use Alt+V - E Sure it opens and closes the panel BUT
It does not open the Effects Panel.

If the Properties panel was showing and I close it with the shortcut Alt-V-E
Then I use the shortcut again to open the panel it should open the Effect Panel but it just opens the panel back up to what was last used. ie; the properties panel.

So again with the menu screengrab above
Alt+V -E should open the Effects panel
Alt+V -P should open the Properties panel

And now they add a menu item
Side Bar to open/close the side panel. And there is no shortcut for it.
You have to Check, Un-check it

WTF Three option to open/close the panel and two of them do not open the correct panel ?

Ridiculous design and half baked again.

Dubie

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You can see the underlines on the light theme, just.  I'll bet they haven't reversed the colour for the dark theme.
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Sorry but that ain't happening.



Plus That's the least of the problems.

Maybe time to do a Clean re-install :(

Dubie

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ALT V the c for effects and t for properties
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That doen't open and /or close the panel.
That just toggles between them
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Ok the bigger picture is being missed here and that is
Why remove a simple streamline method and complicate it.

The shortcuts are but a small part of it. If you are on version 2019.1.1 and can see the underlined letter shortcuts than I have to assume it is on my end. I'll look it to that.

But why we're on the subject for a moment,  what is the shortcut for the new "Side Bar" menu item?  I see it as a check on/off option.

The big question is why change a simple one click method and make it now a dig through a menu or remember now another shortcut operation?

I use many shortcuts and are glad for them but this move just IMO made a hassle of a already smooth operation.

The way it was is that you could click on the words Effects or Properties



You could switch between effects or properties. That still works.

What does not work now is clicking on the words to close/open the panel.

If the properties panel was active and you clicked on Properties the panel closed.
Click either word and that words panel opened.

I know workflows vary but for myself if a option is there starring me in the face and I can just click it once and it proceeds  I don't understand how now digging through a menu or adding another shortcut to my memory makes it better.


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Well, the Alt + Menu item to get to alternate keyboard shortcuts is a feature I have never used and wasn’t even aware of. Or that so many programs use it. So I learn something new tonight. So much so I removed my previous post once I got a good look at how this feature works. Realizing my previous post was off base and inaccurate.

My familiarity with utilizing this feature is zero experience. It seems like clicking the menu items would be almost as fast as hitting Alt + Whatever Then, checking the menu item for an additional key and hitting it. Obviously, if you had the key memorized. It might come down to your typing skills which you could pull off faster.

I don’t know why TechSmith decided to add additional steps to opening and closing the Effects and Properties panel’s?

I like to think there’s a good reason for it. Like a lot of people were accidentally closing the panels and complaining about it.

I never close the panels myself. Because if I’m using SnagIt I’m usually utilizing a tool, and I need the properties panel to make changes. So closing the properties panel temporarily doesn’t help me much. The amount of real estate gained is very little.

Anyway, perhaps you should open a ticket with tech support and ask them why they’ve made this change?

Getting them to hit the undo button on this feature change. Is probably not likely. But you can always make a feature request to have them change it back.

Regards, Joe

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On my installation of 2019.1.1 the 'tabs,' if that's what they are called, are still visible without the 'Side Bar' open but, once I click on one, the 'Side Bar' opens and can't be closed without going to the 'View' menu and un-checking 'Side bar.'
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Windows menu shortcuts have been around forever (dare I say since v3.1? I could be wrong on that) but not well documented nor obvious. You don't need to learn them all especially since they can change per program. Just learn the ones that make sense to your work flow. 

Photo editors know  that lesson 1 is the tools and lesson 1 a is the shortcuts to those tools. Then you show them how to add their own shortcuts for the most used adjustments that have no shortcuts