I'm Having Some Problems With Grab Text

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I am using Snagit version 2018.2.5 build 5151.
I have created a simple example to demonstrate my problem.
Here is a screen shot of a simple notepad doc.

All of the columns are made from 5 spaces.

Here is what Snagit looks like before i start the capture.


I then capture the interior portion of notepad and then do Edit/Grab Text and this is what I get.

Notice the periods after the numbers.  The letter c got translated to an e. the efgh is now on the third line instead of the first line.  The same idea for mnop.

What I would really like to come out is
1{tab}abcd{tab}efgh{crlf}
2{tab}ijkl{tab}mnop{crlf}

Any help in getting me from where I am to where I want to be would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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SnagIt has a very odd problem when capturing text that is not surrounded by a border.
Apparently, TechSmith is aware of this. Another member has stated that tech support informed him that he needed to surround the text he was capturing with a border.

Which is exactly what is required. In the image below. I've cropped the image you uploaded and put a black border around it.
When I apply grab text. You can see my results below. It came very close to getting everything correct.



If this is something you need to do often.
Abby has a screen capture utility that works quite well.
In the image below I'm capturing your text using the utility. The mode I'm using is capture table to clipboard.



I'm now going to paste that captured text here.......................

1    abed    efgh
2    ijkl    mnop

https://www.abbyy.com/en-us/screenshot-reader/

you may want to give it a whirl.





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Joe:
" . . SnagIt has a very odd problem when capturing text that is not surrounded by a border.
Apparently, TechSmith is aware of this. "

I don't think this an odd problem at all, borders, especially vertical lines are a great way for "grab text" to substitute  a tab. Two vert lines, gets two tabs, three - three, etc.
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Perhaps Odd problem was a poor choice of words.
Lets try "Problematic"

In my experience.
Capturing text as a table maintains formatting. "For the most part" its not always perfect.

As is,  theres can be additional step/steps. Manually adding lines or borders to a capture.
Before launching grab text.

There have been several posts on this subject.
Members who've crashed headlong into this functionality brick wall.
Seeking a solution.
Including yourself.

Is it functioning as designed? Yes, that seems to be the case.

Is it creating problems for users? That TechSmith is aware of ? Yes

Has TechSmith ever came out and said, were working to improve this?
Not that I'm aware of.

Some people embrace hoops.
Regardless of how much time/money is lost while jumping through them.

Functionality sells itself.
Textbook marketing strategy. I hear Crickets instead. {:>)

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You have to love user forums.

I did what you suggested and things are much better.  As you can see in your conversion the c is still converted to an e.  Aside from that things look good.

I am indeed going to be doing this quite a bit so I may give the Screenshot Reader a try.

Thank you so much.
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SnagIt grab text is an ABBYY plug in.
Which is who makes Screenshot & ABBY FineReader.
It seems to me TechSmith got the short end of the stick.

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I've used Excel for formatted text I want to capture & grab:


If I add horizontal lines:


For Sudoku puzzles, the vertical line left of the numbers is necessary.
Sudoku's 9 x 9 grid needs 10 x 10  lines surrounding the numbers for easy and accurate copies.
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Ed: 

Are you saying to:
  1. Put the text into an Excel spreadsheet
  2. Use SnagIt to take a screenshot
  3. Edit / Grab text
  4. Paste into something else?
Or just pointing out that Grab Text works really well with Excel BECAUSE of the outlines?

It's early here and perhaps I'm missing something, but the first option seems counterproductive instead of just putting the original info straight into its intended final destination. 

Thanks!
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I started this thread.  In my situation, I have little to no control of how the data is displayed.  In my original post you will see that my data is two rows and three columns floating in a sea of white space.  Based on the tip from Joe Morgan I was able to reconfigure the window where the data is displayed so that I could get four lines to form a box around my data.  Once I included the four lines around the data then everything worked fine. 
My guess is that the sudoku puzzles are coming from some public domain source and are being pasted into Excel.
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#1: Pasted into excel directly, No, that's ugly because the tabs don't obey ctrl-C !
Yes, public domain - https://www.sudokuprintables.org/sudoku-printables.html
Try to paste one, then see #1!

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Just a possibly dumb curiosity question here.

What you are capturing using SnagIt, is it selectable text before you capture? And if so, why aren't you just doing the typical Ctrl+C to capture it if you just want to paste it elsewhere?
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Try reading the initial post.
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I did, which is why I'd like to clarify what is really desired here.

Obviously what Bruce J is ultimately wanting to achieve is not what he posted. He clearly said that he created a Notepad document as an example.

My point is that I often see folks that are totally unaware that other methods that are likely more efficient may exist.

One case in point is the typical error dialog produced by many Windows applications. I'd be willing to bet that there are swarms of people that use SnagIt to copy the error and they are blissfully unaware that in most cases they simply press Ctrl+C when the error dialog is displayed and they get a textual representation of the dialog.

How often have we seen folks use a Smart Phone to take a screen shot?
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ehorwitz - See in line:
Are you saying to:
    Put the text into an Excel spreadsheet 
       -  Yes, turn grid lines off (they're noise) , make sure each
          text  cell that you want separated, has border lines.
    Use SnagIt to take a screenshot 
       -  Yes
    Edit / Grab text                
       -  Actually it's grab then edit (if needed)
    Paste into something else?      
       -  Yes, and in this this format:  
          1{tab}abcd{tab}efgh{crlf}
          2{tab}ijkl{tab}mnop{crlf}
No text that isn't there, and almost 100% accurate and I've even trained excel to catch the far and few between errors.
   
Years ago my wife would "type" a couple hundred Sudoku puzzles into excel every week. When I showed her the way I do it now, she took me into a virtual world and beat me to near death.

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I should also note that, what Joe does is best for Joe, what I do is best for me.
I'm a decent VBA programmer, so once I get a Sudoku puzzle into Excel, I can push a button and in the blink of an eye, know if its a duplicate or not.