is camtasia 20 compatible with camtasia 19

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Hi folks, I have a free upgrade from camtasia 19 to 20, my collaborators both work on Macs and are using camtasia 19, if I upgrade will I be able to share exported projects with them or will there be backwards compatibility issues? many thanks Richard 
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You can open Camtasia 2019 projects in Camtasia 2020 but you can not open Camtasia 2020 projects in Camtasia 2019. 

You can have both installed at the same time so you can upgrade, but to continue collaborating with Camtasia 2019 users you should continue to use Camtasia 2019 when working on those shared projects.
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Hi Clint, many thanks for your response I appreciate how quickly you have replied. To give some feedback  can I suggest that you make this information  easily accessible to users, it is quite frustrating that I am unable to find our something quite straightforward without posting on a forum. Further, I could have easily just upgraded thinking it was for free and then have to request my two collaborators upgrade as well which would cost them money even though they only bought the product a couple of months ago. I appreciate your time and  I am not looking to shoot the messenger I just think it is important that you know this! many thanks  Richard 
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I think you could upgrade anyway, Camtasia 2019 will remain installed on your machine. I currently have Camtasia 9, 2019 AND 2020, running alongside. I can switch back from one to another, record with one while demonstrating stuff with the other (I use this for my YouTube channel where I make Camtasia tutorials for beginners so I need to record with one while showing another one).

But like Clint said, you cannot open newer version projects in older ones. The other way it works, though. I've upgraded a lot of projects in 2020 and they have had no problems so far.
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Adobe products have similar issues and if you take InDesign as an example, they have adopted a XML-style, version-independent format that can be used up and down versioning. Granted if you use new features, they won't import correctly in an earlier version. But the import process won't fail or crash. Not a bad idea, Techsmith?

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Yon can down convert Camtasia 2020 projects to Camtasia 2019 or Camtasia 2018 or Camtasia 9

Accomplished with a simple edit to the tscproj file [which is just a Jason text file]

How To Down Convert Camtasia 2020 Project To Camtasia 2019 Or Camtasia 2018 Or Camtasia 9 2020-05-07
.https://www.screencast.com/t/2Es7cdTM

Caveats ...

Not support by TechSmith

Strongly Discouraged By TechSmith

New version features will not work in downgraded projects

I've downgraded hundreds of projects without any issues


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I have to ask.
Why are you downgrading 100's of projects in the first place?
If you have an newer version of Camtasia on you're computer. What's the point in doing so?
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fair question; simple answer ...

after building out 25 Camtasia 2019 projects, which were actually high object count "swap-on-disk" template projects, and after those 25 templates were used to create several hundred actual projects [where real content was hot-swapped for the placeholders media in the templates] ... after all this, I discovered that 2019 handles import scaling very differently than 2018; many imported media were displayed corruptly [aspect way off]; they were also hard to spot during a quick, casual observation [project or production]

basically, all the edited/produced 2019 projects were flawed [an issue having to do with aspect ratio]

I could have gone back in to the 2019 projects and found/fixed each flawed instance, but that would have been a labor-intensive nightmare, and would have taken several months to accomplish

so I down converted all those 2019 projects to 2018, which, due to the different way it handles import scaling, at least displayed the media with the right aspect, making them very easy to find; then, a multi-select of just the bad ones enabled a single action fix; then I just produced again in 2018;

major disaster avoided
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Example - Camtasia 2020 Project Down Versioned To Camtasia 2019 2020-05-08
https://www.screencast.com/t/gZhIwYmmr4aA

project initially created from 2020 template project that had a placeholder object, where the placeholder was populated using a Library sequence asset via ripple replace method

otherwise, the 2020 project did not use any other new 2020 features or functions
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The workflow you’ve applied to 100’s of projects is very narrow in scope.

Plus, it sounds to like you may have encountered a bug or flaw in Camtasia 2018 or 2019?

Perhaps your operating system is missing a codec, critical update or something to that effect? Or your particular system is simply antiquated, defective or the hardware will not and cannot fully support the newest versions.

 To the best of my knowledge, a medias anchor point, the maximum outside canvas bounds “Dimensions”, etc., share identical parameters starting with version 9 through 2020.

It’s quite possible you’re encountering an “Actual” incompatibility issue between versions 2019 & 2018?

 Which should suggest hacking backwards or forwards between versions is going to be risky business for anyone that travels the same road.

Based on your description. You’re updating 100’s of older “Existing 2018 projects” to Camtasia 2019.

Modifying them, then reverse engineering them to open in 2018 again.

 From where I sit, that workflow is vastly different than starting a project in Camtasia 2020.

Then packing it up and sending it off to collaborators elsewhere. To hack backwards for further editing in 2019. Or any older version for that matter.

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One simple and very important action totally avoids any of the issues that may befall someone moving between versions.

BACKUPS
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although this thread is far off point, I'll wrap up with some clarity ...

per TechSmith tech support, 2019 was redesigned to deliberately import and scale media differently than the way it was handled in 2018; so it's never going to get "fixed"

I just tested the 2018/2019 scaling issue in 2020; the behavior in 2020 has again been redesigned; now, certain media, previously affected by the 2019 issue, are now presented, in the loaded project, as "missing media"; although there, they are being rejected on project load; however, this treatment makes it much easier to locate those media within the project, and they can now be "fixed" using update media, which now allows you to pull the same media from it's original location; but the media still needs to be scaled manually

the "down convert" technique works just fine; and it's not a hack, anymore than is changing a single character text value in a callout

maybe you should try it?  if skittish, work with a safe copy of the tscproj

side bar ...

I just down converted the 2020 scaling test project to 2019; all is great

and it's a high object count project with 100+ media, 100 markers, 100 captions, over 200 hotspots

just ducking a bullet 


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I feel the Irony is completely lost here.






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what irony?

thought you were gone?
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Joe Morgan

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You have firsthand knowledge that there are incompatibility/ workflow inconsistencies between Major releases of Camtasia.

This alone can create problems for anyone that chooses to work/share their projects across multiple Major releases.

Heck, sharing a project with different version numbers is less concerning and problematic as well.

You’ve eluded to getting burned 100’s of times yourself. Which had nothing to do with your hack.

Yet, you’ve continued promoted the mixing and matching of projects across Major versions. With a twist. Hack the project files backward before proceeding.

You’ve been saying this or something similar to it this since 2018’s released over 2 years ago. Despite the inherent and possible pitfalls one might encounter.

This is Ironic to me.

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Joe Morgan

since you cannot let sleeping dogs lie ...

I'll restate for clarity

I have NEVER experienced an issue when down converting any candidate project

But I have experienced issues when upgrading projects from earlier versions

Example - Camtasia 2020 no longer supports earlier style callouts; this has caused me to have to remake many Library assets, and, to have to patch many earlier projects

Another benefit of down converting is the ability to edit in latest version, while simultaneously producing in earlier version; this let's you double-team Camtasia

You can also have the 2 versions producing at the same time; this can be a big help when there are pressing time schedules

let's move on ...


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