Is it possible for you guys to add some precision to your product?

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 I've known your program for a few years and I'm really surprised that the newest version of Camtasia Studio I've downloaded and  tested still lacks the capability to precisely select a capture area for recording. I've used Faststone Capture so far for that reason. It allows you to make use of the arrow keys to move the cursor pixel by pixel when selecting a capture area on the screen, or when moving the capture box. Maybe you can learn something from it. Camtasia Recorder is useless if you can't quickly and precisely select the area you want to record. Also, how about precisely defining an offset from the top & left of the screen for the capture box?
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"Camtasia Recorder is useless if you can't quickly and precisely select the area you want to record."

I think you have a good suggestion that would benefit from not overstating your case. "Useless" is one of those words that because it is absolute, it is almost always false. Even in light of your observation, you could crop in post in one step and be just as well off as if you had pixel by pixel control in the first place. Not ideal, but about as far away from "useless" as you could get.

Not criticizing, but sharing an observation in case you were interested in more effective communication.
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Yes I'm "interested in effective communication" :) Your suggestion to crop the desired area in "post production" is not viable if you are constrained by or happen to take into account performance, space, time and efficiency...
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Hey, One thing you should remember, is never criticize something just because you are not able to get it it work for you. And, "Camtasia is useless " , seriously?
So, why do u think are all the people in this forum and many other people using it ?
And, also who said you can't have pixel accuracy ? you can specify the no.of pixels you want to capture in the recording area itself.


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Apologists seem to be popular here. Look, if you don't like my opinion which is your right, I'm fine with that. However it's dirty to make stuff up that isn't true just so you have a strawman you can attack. The GUI of Camtasia Recorder does allow you to define the dimensions of a capture box, I never denied that, but try to position that box accurately in a tolerable time with your mouse. If you can "get it to work", more power  to you.
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This is what I was talking about when I mentioned effective communication. When you say "apologists" you are manipulating the conversation both by being dishonest and taking other people out of the conversation altogether. It's a lot easier to ignore what people have to say if you view them as not people at all by applying a label to them. Especially one with a negative connotation.

Ironically, you were simultaneously advocating the people ignore you who disagree with you while attacking those you do not agree with instead of just ignoring them.

Above, you mentioned "performance, space, time and efficiency" as if I was saying the cropping in post was just as good. I did not say that though. In fact, I said it was less than ideal. Had you better communication skills, you would see that cropping in post was mentioned to offset your absolute claim that Camtasia is useless even in the context of your observation. It's a true statement and were it not, you'd be able to offset it with your own counterpoint instead of resorting to ad hominem.

As my very first words in this thread affirms, I think everybody would agree that X and Y input would be better than no X and Y input. Had you left it at that, this thread would be much shorter and devoid of unnecessary conflict.
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Faststone Capture seems to work for you. But you get what you pay for.
I wouldn't use it because of all the things it won't do. But I wouldn't call it useless.
It's still just a 20$ program.    
If you were proficient with Camtasia. You would understand why your program is 20$. 
 
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I'm having the same problem. I use Adobe Premier Pro for video production and Camtasia Recorder for screen capture of video. Recorder 4 allows a fixed region to be perfectly selected by input of x, y, width, height.

I just upgraded to Camtasia Studio 8 to get the improved recorder. The fixed green rectangle is excellent for keeping the performer aware of where the screen being recorded is. The method of selecting the area with the mouse is much better. So is the way the area is shown all the time that Recorder is active. This makes designing a recording session so much easier. What a great feature.

However, Recorder 8 lacks ability to input the fixed area x and y. This makes it impossible to precisely control video location capture, which must be correct right down to the exact pixel for serious work. So I find myself going back to Recorder 4.

If I didn't have Recorder 4 I'd agree with the original poster, who said "Camtasia Recorder is useless if you can't quickly and precisely select the area you want to record." Useless is a little strong, but the point is well made.

I tried SnagIt and it's not that seaworthy. For video it's buggy, only records 10 fps, and is feature poor.

Thus I second the feature request for a way to set X and Y for Recorder fixed area. Also needed, ideally, is a list of fixed areas for reuse.

Overall, Recorder 8 is excellent. But it doesn't quite meet my particular needs.


A big thanks to all the developers at Techsmith,

Jack

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what are you talking about? you can input the exact dimensions you want. isn't this what u need ?


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Perla,

Thanks. What you've circled are the width and height. What I and the original poster need to set accurately are the X and Y coordinates for the upper left corner of the recording rectangle.

Hope this explains things,

Jack
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Here's a screen shot of Camtasia Recorder 4 in action, so you can see what I've been describing. While Recorder has improved in many ways, it lacks the ability to set X and Y accurately for fixed region captures. Instead you must use the mouse and lots of trial and error, which is not repeatable or efficient.

Jack
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Thanks Joe. I explored all these methods. The recent areas works, but there is still no X Y input. I put together videos from an average of a dozen scenes. Each must be precisely on top of the one before, to match. If different applications are involved, different X Y and width height are required. Recorder 4 can handle this with east. Recorder 8 cannot.

I wonder if this feature will make it into a new version of Camtasia Studio.
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Sounds more like will they bring it back? Makes me wonder why they dropped it. I gotta ask though, what kind of videos are you creating that needs this corner pinned capture? I've done some video editing using after effects and premiere pro. Not saying I'm real good, but I just can't picture what it is that you are doing that resizing is such a big issue.  
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Rather than what kind of videos, the issue relates to how the video scenes are recorded. Each scene must be recorded in the exact screen location as others, or they will not align properly in whatever video editor you use.

I have about 5 hours of videos on Thwink.org. The average one is 15 minutes long with ten or so separately recorded scenes. Each scene is scripted and multiple takes are required to get it right. Frequently I have to come back days or weeks or months later to re-record a scene, on a particular application, at the EXACT same place on the screen it was recorded before. If I can't do that I'm in trouble.

With X Y control, this is no problem at all. Without X Y control, it's a surefire way to waste a lot of time, or worse yet, to produce a substandard video.

I'm working on a 45 minute video now with about 16 scenes which is taking several weeks to write and create the visuals. The applications to be recorded are PowerPoint and a simulation modeling tool called Vensim. Each has a very different window layout. So X Y control is rather handy. The recorded videos must be the same frame size, which makes things so much easier.

The subject of the video is why and how a change resistance subsystem can be added to the World3 simulation model of The Limits to Growth. Pretty technical stuff and a very demanding audience of academics. They expect perfection.

Joe, I hope this explains things. Thanks for your help here.

Jack

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