Jump to a specific location on a timeline in Camtasia (again :))

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Hi there,

I realise there have been several conversations on this topic and the question rightly asked by TechSmith engineers is when and how would such a feature be used.

The answer is overwhelming when videos are shared with other people for editing or review.
A very common scenario is to present a client with a first draft edited Camtasia video and they come back saying, for example 15 minutes is too long, could you please edit it to include the following sections to make it 10 minutes.

I think the fundamental reason for such a feature is to think about "shared" use of Camtasia as opposed to "single" use.
The following example (apologies for the length but it helps to get the idea) is from an actual project and you can see time consuming and awkward it is to repeatedly look for the location and get it right to the exact second versus how convenient and fast it would be if I could jump to exact locations :)

Time/ mark :

Video 1

04.04 – 04:54 50 secs

05:50 – 05 :56 6 secs

10.07-10.31 24 secs

10.40 – 11.14 35 seconds

11.25 – 11.35 10 seconds

11.51-12.02 11 seconds

13.40 – 13.50 10 seconds

14.04-14.11 6 seconds

25.43-25.54 11 seconds

27.27 – 27.42 15 seconds

28.59 – 29.20 21 seconds

40.10 – 40.25 15 seconds

44.21-44.27 7 seconds

49.46-49.50 4 seconds

Video 2

30.47-30.51 4 seconds

41.47-42.11 24 seconds

Video 3

07.48-07.58 10 secs

08.15- 08.35 20 secs

12.52 – 13.02 10 sec

32.41-32.48 7 seconds

34.45 – 34.52 7 sec

45.54 – 46.00 6 sec

Video 4

01.06.40- 01.07.25 45 seconds

03.41-03.54 13 seconds

 
 
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john

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Paul Middlin, Employee

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I want to make sure I understand your suggestion-
Are you saying that when people give you feedback on your video, you get a timecode and it's hard to go to that spot on the timeline to see what they were talking about?
Or, are you saying it's hard to get to the spot you need to in order to make edits/changes?
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It is hard to get to the spot to make the edits /changes the client has requested. Picture a client working through an hour or so of video (mp4 file on whatever player - they do not have Camtasia) noting various highlights by start and end times. I get sent the list of times and a request to make a highlights video. To do the task in Camtasia, I need to carefully drag the ‘head’ to each start and end location copy and paste the highlight and start to compile the set of highlights. This becomes particularly tedious when I need to keep zooming in and out as each highlight, a few seconds long, needs to be dragged back on a new track to the start of the timeline. Each time I zoom out to find the approx location on the time line, zoom in to get it exact, cut and paste, zoom out to drag highlight and repeat. It would make the whole process much easier to be able to jump to a location.
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have you tried scrubbing first with the canvas control, then fine tune with the playhead; not exactly a direct entry but it can go pretty fast ...

Timeline Navigation By Scrubbing
https://www.screencast.com/t/GAybVUHQ
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Thanks, that clarifies a lot.
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The idea of scrubbing first with the canvas control, then fine tune with the playhead is really good and pretty much what I ended up doing. But if you think about it, it involves accessing two different controls and lots of fine motor control. Once, twice or a few times to do this is fine, but once you get to 20-30 for each project (as in my last job example above) it gets tedious and there could be hours saved by a simple jump to location feature.

I guess to figure out whether it is worth investing in such a feature first requires some investigation into how common the scenario is amongst other Camtasia users.
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There is a way to directly navigate projects by time values: use time denominated captions; you need to create a "time captions" Library asset; it takes some effort to make one that spans a reasonable amount of time, but once created, you'll be good to "navigate by time" in any project ...

How To Use Captions To Navigate Project By Time Value
http://www.screencast.com/t/G3ArxEIynO
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Yes but I think the whole point is around the workflow being shared by more than one person. The second party who is generally the reviewer doesn't have time or skills to do something like you suggest.
i.e. Person 1 (with Camtasia) creates video and sends to reviewer/boss/client - Person 2 (without Camtasia) reviews on MP4 player and sends back comments/feedback and segment times - Person 1 then edits as required using the times. 
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Hi John,

The use case you outline here is something we have heard from our Camtasia users and we have been in development of a new cloud product to help with this. We call it TechSmith Video Review and you can check it out here: https://videoreview.techsmith.com.

We just released the service back in October 2017 and are working to refine it so we would love to hear if this is something you would find useful. We will soon have a category for it here on our community forums.

Paul
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maybe some minor misunderstanding?

the "time captions" asset would only be needed by person 1 [project editor]; I understood the "reviewer" [2nd party] would only be reviewing by watching the MP4 smart player and providing time values like your examples?

the "time caption" asset would only need be created 1 time, and could be used by person 1 forever thereafter

anyway, was just putting something else up on the board :)

and, I agree that CS needs a control that would allow a time value to simply be entered to cause playhead navigation; such a capability has been repeatedly requested over the years; but we're still waiting
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Ahh, Ok - gotcha - understood - thanks
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it is pretty easy to make a time captions Library asset, even if it runs 1 hour or more; just first create a 60 second generic captions template Library asset [X:XX:00, X:XX:01, etc.], and patch it in, over and over, editing the tscproj file using replace-all find/replace

How To Make Custom Duration Time Captions Asset Using A Time Captions Template
http://www.screencast.com/t/dXkcmOYWM0Q6
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here' the way to put time captions to practical use ...

How To Use Time Captions To Facilitate Video Feedback
http://www.screencast.com/t/9W63Y4sc0de