Modify the Default Canvas Color

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In Snagit, the default canvas color is transparent.  I would like to be able to set my default color to white.  TechSmith Support has confirmed that it is not possible (at this time) to change the default color.  Please add a feature to allow a choice.
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That should be an easy fix. There is another thread about adding layers. They are already there and all that is needed is to be able  see and manipulate them in a basic way. No need for masking layers and all the other possibilities that exist in  Paintshop, Photoshop,Affinity etc

Then you could  duplicate the  layer, clear the bottom layer and fill it with white

I have no idea of how you work but PNG and JPG files do not support transparency so if you save as in either of these formats you will get a white background
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PNG files actually do support transparency. 
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Exactly. JPEG doesn't... PNG does.

"Then you could  duplicate the  layer, clear the bottom layer and fill it with white."

No thanks! :)

Creating an extra layer and then applying a color fill is more work than simply right-clicking on the canvas and choosing a different canvas color in the context menu. Sure, you could do it that way, but it makes no sense to do something using a more convoluted method. That's not even a workaround.

It only takes five mouse clicks to change it using the menu. This could be reduced to zero, if we could set a default:



Even if you were to use layers, every new file would start with the same problem as the default canvas color would still be transparent, and the layer would not exist from the get-go. Not a solution. :)

I wonder why the ability to change the default canvas color was an option in prior versions but no longer exists? I'm new to Snagit but needed this feature almost immediately!
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I also would request this feature.  I need a white image background approx 90% of the time.  It's an annoyance to have to go to the upper menu to fix it.  [There isn't even a way to add Canvas Color when you customize the toolbar icons.]

Am I wrong or was setting the default canvas color an option in earlier versions of SnagIt Editor?
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Yes, it was an option in prior versions,  one whose absence incenses me ceaselessly, so kindly do return that to us as an editable Preference, s.v.p.
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Agreed!
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+ I would also like to see an option to change the default canvas color +

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I would also welcome the option to set default canvas color to white!

As Technical Writer, I need to place the screenshots to Atlassian Confluence pages where transparent isn't supported, unfortunately. So I have to reset the canvas color to white very often, which is annoying.   
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I want to at least have the canvas color in the toolbar - one of the things I really like about the new Snagit is having the ability to customize my toolbar to bring in functions from different areas - this used to be in the image toolbar...why isn't it now?  I hate having to use the menu option - I use this functionality all the time
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Not sure when it was added, but if you right-click the canvas you see Canvas Color as an option. Maybe that helps? For my workflow, it seems even simpler than clicking a menu or a toolbar.

Cheers... Rick :)
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I think the issue is setting a DEFAULT canvas color. If I always work on a sky blue pink background, I have to change it each time. Correct me if you change a canvas color and that choice sticks
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The right click on the canvas gives you a Background Color.  Not the same as the Canvas Color, I think.  And Rick is right - I would like to set the default canvas color.
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This is one of those odd threads. My reply earlier this morning was simply an effort to assist JPeppers with something that was hopefully simpler than trying to add the canvas color to the toolbar.

While it may be different for other applications, I believe for all intents and purposes, background and canvas actually mean the same thing as far as SnagIt goes.

For me, right-click is actually labeled Canvas Color.



Cheers... Rick :)
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The background and canvas colors are two different things.

Changing  the Background color is found under the "View" menu.

Changing the Canvas color can be done under the "Image" menu or Right-Clicking
on the background or canvas.



At least that how is for me.

:)
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Ahhhh, I see what you mean. Seems they have maybe added a level of customization beyond the theme! 

Silly me. I thought we were talking about only the image loaded into SnagIt.

Thanks for sharing! Rick :)
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Kind of calls into question why it's not listed in the context menu when right-clicking. Right-click the Canvas and see Change Canvas Color and when right-clicking the Background area of the app, it should present Change Background Color.
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Agreed that right clicking on the background should have the option to change the background.

My thinking is that the background is more of a set it once because that is the color you like to work on. It's not part of the capture that is saved in the final results.

Where as the canvas color would be something you would be changing more frequently
with the projects you are creating.

:)

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Over in the Adobe world of another product I use (and have taught many others to use) is Captivate. I rather like the way Captivate operates. That area is known as the "pasteboard". What is nice about it is that you can actually move things off the canvas and onto the pasteboard area. 

While Captivate is very similar to Camtasia, one might think this would only be useful for video type editing. But I could easily see it being useful in SnagIt to create and manipulate things. Temporarily dragging them from the canvas to the pasteboard area. 

Unfortunately, the way it presently works seems to be that once the object you drag is off the canvas, it performs a total disappearing act. There is no clicking in the area to drag it back onto the canvas.

Cheers... Rick :)
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I think they are Artboards in Illustrator. They can be very useful
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Having the ability to drag objects off of the canvas onto the background to temporarily get them out of the way would be a welcome addition.

:)

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That is a can of worms though. DOes copy all now copy everything or just the canvas items? I guess yo would have to save as a SNAG to preserve the artboard
It they left it as is and gave a (say) 50& opacity to anything not on the canvas, would that do the trick?
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Interesting aspect to ponder. I suppose one might expect it to behave exactly as it does today, with only copying things on the canvas. And if it were to change the behavior where it worked as an artboard or pasteboard, there would possibly emerge two different copy options. Copy canvas items and copy all items (including items outside the canvas).

Cheers... Rick :)
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Hey jpeppers,
In older versions of SnagIt.
 You could change the canvas color from the "Quick Access Tool Bar".


That toolbar is gone along with a lot of clickable features.

There was a time you could select a Default Canvas Color as well. It Was SnagIt 12??? But it didn't remain as a feature for very long.
Regards,Joe
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Yep

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Thanks for the right-click tip Rick!  It saves a couple of clicks (although I usually use the dropper to choose a color, and that's still a couple more clicks, this is a great shortcut!
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Thanks for the right-click tip Rick!  It saves a couple of clicks (although I usually use the dropper to choose a color, and that's still a couple more clicks, this is a great shortcut!
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(Not sure why that posted twice - I edited to fix the parenthesis, and even the second post is open ended, so it didn't even take my edit)
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Hi,

I can confirm that in some previous versions there was an option to set the default canvas color.

I personally have the same problem. I am taking screenshots for most of my working hours and pasting images to system that doesn't support transparent canvas color. Previously it was possible to set canvas color to white. Now I have to take and combine around 100-200 screenshots per day and in all those images canvas color has to be changed manually.

So returning the default canvas color option to Snagit would be so welcome.
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Ok, for the love of god. I keep changing my canvas to transparent and it keeps going to black. So if there's a default transparent or white background, somehow now mine is black.

I go into SnagIt Editor Prefs (Win) and set Editor BACKGROUND color. I assumed this was the canvas, but no. I have no idea what this is for and why do I care, because I simply cannot see any difference.

So every time I go into SnagIt editor, I have to go to Image->canvas color to change it. Oh ya, in between SnagIt Editor crashing just to  make things interesting. interestingly enough, you use the same terminology for the Canvas-BACKGROUND  color, so how do we know the difference and just let me change my preference, please.

UI terminology is important for usability. Allowing the user to set preferences so that they don't have to do things over and over, is VERY important.

If there's a top secret way to do this, please let me know.

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That is setting the UI background. If you go to FILE / NEW you will be given the option to choose the image background and if you pick something it SHOULD stick
Keep in mind that if you have a crash before the values are written, you may have to do it again. Also,  if you are sending them in from another program including the snagit printer, you may end up with a white background anyway.
That may be beyond what Snagit can do or even be expected to do. i.e if you load a PNG with transparency into the snagit editor you get transparency. If you print that same png, the background is white
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That would be great if I actually created new images. I usually take a screen shot and select New from Clipboard, which doesn't give me that option. I edit the image and such and each time it has a black canvas. Of course, once I go change the canvas color, why can't it remember my selection!?

So I went the roundabout way as you suggested, created a new image, made the canvas clear, and then proceeded the way I normally do with New from Clipboard. Oh, and now it's the right color I picked in the New. If you don't use New, you'll never find that function. Come on now, I think we can make it a bit easier to use, huh? If I change my canvas color, I'd expect it to stay that way forever until I change it again.

So if there's the UI background and the Canvas background, maybe consider naming them appropriately so that the user can distinguish between the two.  Calling them both Background Color is confusing.

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Very irritating that default canvas color cant' be changed. It was able to be in prior versions. I despise it when an upgrade "downgrades" such simple functionality. I agree with someone else who said they need to change this 90% 0f the time.
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I really MISS the functionality to set default canvas color that used to be there.  I use a white canvas 95% of the time and have to continually set it each and every time - a real productivity killer.  Please restore the functionality.
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I find some apps fail when you cut and paste with a transparent background so I would like to have a default as well. When it fails (like it just did in Evernote) I have to go back, change the canvas color and then paste again. Happens a few times per week.  
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I would also like the ability to change the default canvas color to white. I use the eraser tool frequently, and it's a pain to always have to change the canvas color first.
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Hi Whitney - how are you creating these images...via capture or via File > New or via File > New from Clipboard?
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SO what are ya a teaser? LOL

You could just tell whitney if you save SnagIt captures as jpegs or create new images as jpegs the canvas will be white by default.

Regards,Joe
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I have been doing some testing and found that "New from Clipboard' will use a previous canvas color.

My process:

I create a "New Image" in the editor with a color canvas.
Let's say blue. I also just to be sure remove that New image from Snagit recent tray and the library.

If I do a capture that also has Copy to Clipboard set then in the editor I can do New from Clipboard and the color I set my New Image to is there(retained).

Here is the problem though. If one has in the Editor Preferences "Automatically save new captures in the library" On,  than you now have two of the same capture.

One of the original capture (with transparent canvas) that is on the canvas when the editor opens  and the "New from Clipboard" image with my canvas color when I paste it.

Now I have to go and remove/delete one of them or make sure that the "Automatically save new captures in the library" preference is Off before doing the capture(s) and then go back and turn it back on If I remember.

Not only would the ability to set a default canvas color be good, But possibly a option in the preset options to toggle "Save to Library" on and off also.

Some captures I want to save to the library, Others such as this case of having to use "New from Clipboard" to have the canvas color I want creates extra steps/work because I have to go back and remove duplicates or remember to change a editor preference back and forth.

:)
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This actually needs to get done by TechSmith's programming department. What's the hold-up?

Scenario: I make a screen capture and it opens into the 2019 Snagit Editor. I grab a selection handle of the capture and widen (and/or lengthen) the canvas, which is by default Transparent. I right-click on the transparent area and select "Canvas Color..." and then choose White from the dropdown menu. Now, in that same dialog box after choosing the desired color, there NEEDS to be an option "Set as default".

Why is this so hard? Please.





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I put in this request 2 years ago.  It seems like it could have come up to the top of a backlog of work by now.  Please!
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+1 for me

Sorry...,
I just discovered this thread, else I would have replied here instead of reviving the thread

"Image> Canvas color> Background is is standard on transparent, can this be changed so user can decied what the defautl (white for me) is?"


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Me too, I have to take several hundred screenshots that need the same color border. This is most easily accomplished by expanding the image with a consistent background color. It literally will add several extra hours to this task to have to manually change the color of every shot.... I am very disappointed that this option was removed in the newer versions of SnagIt. I have been using SnagIt since version 2..... :-( 
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Hi Brian - I tried to contact you via email but it bounced back. If you check back here, shoot me an email (d.foster@techsmith.com)...I'm interested to know more about your particular workflow and use case. 
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Obviously I'm not Brian.
If you could set a default background color and used the feature "Automatically expand the canvas to fit objects".
This could make for a handy feature if you want a colored background. Especially if you use the same color regularly.
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Joe makes a good point. Seems that the development team could also perhaps piggyback on the recent feature that was added to auto fill the  background when cutting a selection?

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If the border is always the same, why not add it to a preset? Just execute the preset and you have the border already on there
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This issue cannot be worked around by using any preset or border. No matter which border you will use the canvas color is still transparent and you always have to change canvas color manually. I appreciate that people want to make suggestions to work around this issue but please note that TechSmith is already aware of this issue and they haven't presented (at least to me) any workarounds for this issue.
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I hate to say this, but given this request is 2 years old, does it need raising again?  It's never going to get included in the 2019 roundup with a two year old date on it is it?
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like the OP-- I also need a white default for all my projects.  I make videos of musical scores; white backgrounds are quite literally essential.  I have to change it every single time and it seems so arbitrary that the default is black.