MOV files for Opening Video

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I have seen related questions, but I cannot find anyone addressing this particular issue. I have several .MOV files - openings for the most part (fire, smoke, lights, etc.). When I try to use them, the video is choppy. I am using version 8.6 and of course I have the latest QuickTime. Any way around this issue? Thanks!

Aldo
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No, there really isn't.

The problem is that mov's with transparency contain a lot of complex video information. Smoke, fire and lights are among the most complex.

Some programs get around this by rendering timeline content and saving it as a cache file to disk. This is generally required for smooth timeline playback in these cases.

Regards,Joe 


 
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Wow. That's disappointing. I guess the best way is just to find MP4 files? That seems to be a shortcoming of the program though, don't you think so?
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Just a warning that you should not be using QuickTime on any vein of windows add apple no longer supports it and there are security hokes.

The best solution is to use something like x-media recode or Handbrake to convert the file to another format, like mp4.
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Got it. Thanks. I wasn't aware. I really never use it but I'd last night to see if I was able to run the files. Will stop now for sure.
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Thanks Joe!
I've had all these mov assets I couldn't use because of the security thing and my un-installing Quicktime.

I'd asked Techsmith for a solution earlier this year and now, thanks to you, I have that solution!

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I'm just glad I can pass this information along.

 I was in the same boat as you and not at all happy with Apple over of it. Fortunately, I discovered what needed to be done.
My DSLR and point and shoot both record in mov.

 I also have a lot of animations with transparent backgrounds.

Life is good, lol

Regards,Joe
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Hello there thomas.zucker-scharff,
 
The security risk associated with QuickTime is not spelled out clearly enough and misunderstood by many people.
It's the QuickTime player that is the security risk. Not the MOV codecs that are critical for editing and producing .mov videos.

 There is still a way to use .mov videos in Camtasia and any other program that requires the codecs to be installed. You can produce videos to MOV with just the codecs installed.

What you need to do is uninstall QuickTime first.

Then it's just a matter of reinstalling the codecs.

I created this video a while back to show what happens when you remove QuickTime  and what needs to be done to install just the codecs.

Regards,Joe

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Awesome. I will check that out Joe. I appreciate that.

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That was clever - the video - thanks again Joe. By the way, I will be trying handbrake later today and see if I can convert my files to MP4s. That may be the best solution for me at this time.
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Hey there PCViper,

I don't know how much you know about video editing. So if I'm telling you something you already know please don't get offended.

Smoke and flame videos are usually produced on a transparent background as shown. I applied both a flames video and a  smoke video over a city scene in the example below.


 MP4 doesn't support transparency. Converting these types of mov's to MP4 will not work as a resualt.

 You could convert the videos to avi with transparency. However, they probably wouldn't playback much better if at all. There are some codecs that can help you reduce the video size but it's the varied transparency levels that drag down playback capability.

Regards,Joe
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No offense taken at all Joe. Trying to learn as I go. I'm a novice with Camtasia and I just create simple videos to help my students. I just thought some of the special effects would work well on some stuff I wanted to play around with. Sounds like I won't have a good solution for sure. The source I'm using - MotionGraphics - - also had lots of MP4s I dan use. My mistake was doing so many MOV downloads to begin with. I will try and find MP4s instead. I appreciate all your help Joe.

Aldo
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The transparency element of the mov was what I missed most. Converting them to mp4 was simple enough but losing the transparency was a deal breaker.

That is the main reason I was super happy to learn your technique to using just the codec.

Doing the Happy Dance - Percy Style!
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Is that an iClone or Crazy Talk Animator production by any chance?
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LOL!
Not sure if either of those but it was uploaded (not mine - I borrowed it) in 2007 so I think it pre-dates both.