Moveable, Detachable Timeline/UI Panels

  • 104
  • Idea
  • Updated 2 weeks ago
  • Under Consideration
(This idea comes what we’ve heard here in this community as well as from other customer feedback methods we utilize. The feedback we gather here will help us gauge how well it fits our users’ needs. Please let us know what you think)

The Problem
The screen area for timeline tracks is limited even after detaching the canvas. Provide more flexibility to move, resize, detach timeline and other panels of the UI.
Photo of David D

David D, Technical Product Manager - Camtasia

  • 139 Posts
  • 172 Reply Likes

Posted 2 years ago

  • 104
Photo of cguarraia

cguarraia

  • 3 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Detaching Panels and Saving Workspaces.

I have a multiple-monitor setup and have detached the Canvas and moved it to another monitor to resize the Timeline panel to be able to see more tracks. However, it also compresses the Tools and Properties panels.

I would like to suggest that all panels (i.e., Timeline, Tools, and Properties) be able to be detached/undocked from the main application window so they can be floated to suit the needs of the user. For example, having the Canvas within the Menu bar on one screen (maximized) while having the Timeline vertically expanded and displayed on a second monitor with both the Tools and Properties panels. Because of their widths, the Tools and Properties panels can be detached from each other or docked to each other and independently resized.

The ability to have the various panels detach from the main application window would allow for better viewing of elements (i.e., Timeline tracks) as well as allow the user to optimize his or her workspace by moving panels to the best position for him or her.

It would also be beneficial to have the ability to create and save different workspaces so that users wouldn't need to set up their workspace each time.
Photo of Meredith Butler

Meredith Butler

  • 1 Post
  • 4 Reply Likes
Can I vote for this one multiple times? The limited space in the timeline tracks makes development tedious and adds unnecessary time. Being able to detach it and maximize it would be AH-MAZING!
(Edited)
Photo of james.zweighaft

james.zweighaft

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Totally agree!!
Photo of zpe777888

zpe777888

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
I also use multiple monitors and this would be an excellent feature so I strongly agree on this. It would greatly speed up editing process when working with many multiple tracks.
Photo of brian

brian

  • 4 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
This would be amazing!!!
Photo of daigledwork

daigledwork

  • 4 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes

Being able to move things around is always a good thing.


Photo of dkrier

dkrier

  • 3 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
Me too!
Photo of dkrier

dkrier

  • 3 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
I'd also add the ability to make the items on the timeline shorter in height so you can see more info on the screen without scrolling.
Photo of Chandrika Inturi

Chandrika Inturi

  • 1 Post
  • 2 Reply Likes

Yes! This is a constraint and would really like to see this fixed. The timelines are also too big and even the smallest space makes it eat up all the timelines space.

Photo of Tim Dini

Tim Dini

  • 1 Post
  • 2 Reply Likes
A detachable, movable, and re-sizable Timeline panel would be fantastic!  Needing to consistently adjust both horizontally and vertically due to the current size and shape limitations is, at times, maddening. 
Photo of Joe Morgan

Joe Morgan

  • 7145 Posts
  • 3873 Reply Likes
I posted about this functionality extensively 7 months ago. Posts get buried through merging.As is if I never posted the Idea at all.


Here's the post reviled.

 Make the Layout of Camtasia and SnagIt UI’s 100% Customizable
  • Idea
  • Updated 7 months ago

With every major release of Camtasia and SnagIt. There’s a new User Interface and a different layout. It takes time and effort to learn where things are. This requires invested man hours. Time is money.

Adobe’s had fully customizable UI’s for as long as I can remember. This alleviates the problem of learning new UI’s. Why, because you can stick to the old UI if you wish. You can even create a  layout that’s exactly as you always felt it should be. Then, save it as a custom workspace.

 Quick Example, Adobe’s Premier Pro can be converted to function a lot like Camtasia 9. 

I borrowed the left side Menu Bar and Top Ribbon from Camtasia 9. Pasted it over Premiere Pro CC 2017. Other than that, it’s all Adobe. “Obviously, PP didn’t have those available”



You can have floating or docked windows, the sky’s the limit. I'll end this post with these examples and a footnote.

I’m sure some of the “Floating Windows and Tool-sets” were quite different back in1989 / 1993. Plus, I had a hard time finding any decent screen shots of Photoshop from 25 years ago.



However, Photoshop and Premier Pro from 2005 were more obtainable.

SO, if someone started using Premiere Pro and Photoshop way back in 2005. Plus, still preferred using the default layout from back then. Would it be possible in 2017?

Well, I’ll let you be the judge.

Regards,Joe


Photo of Mal Reynolds

Mal Reynolds

  • 472 Posts
  • 332 Reply Likes
But merging is wonderful! It triggers the exciting experience of having a spam-valanche of new notifications hitting your inbox. The last time one was done my inbox was so buried in them that I completely lost track of what and where I was replying to. I figured that I'd come back to it later but then got busy with other things and didn't make it back to the forums until the "Tell us what you want" link started to appear when I launched Camtasia. I thought those may have taken me to some kind of survey but alas it was to just the latest "roundup" page which I'm pretty sure does not cover the gamut of user needs. Still, +1 on this one from me.
Photo of Joe Morgan

Joe Morgan

  • 7145 Posts
  • 3873 Reply Likes
I don't mind the e-mail notifications.

I don't like investing a lot of time in mock-ups to make a point.Just to have members never see them due to merging.

In general, I never click links to merged threads. I didn't realize what they were for a couple of years.I'm not the brightest bulb in the package.But that tells me other people ignore merged links as well.

Photo of Mal Reynolds

Mal Reynolds

  • 472 Posts
  • 332 Reply Likes
I mind them. In the space of a day and a bit in June I got hit with over 70 e-mails, almost all of which were "This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled ..." There is no earthly way that I could keep track of what I had seen or what I hadn't seen or which threads they originally came from. And buried in amongst there was probably new content but after a dozen "This reply was created..." e-mails I find that I somewhat lose the enthusiasm to keep reading. Locking a thread and inserting cross-reference links would work, but I'm not sure that Get Satisfaction is that flexible.

And the merging doesn't always work anyway since some things get left behind (the above being an example) or we end up with a merged thread which vaguely identifies a problem but not a solution.
Photo of David D

David D, Technical Product Manager - Camtasia

  • 139 Posts
  • 172 Reply Likes
Official Response
We've updated the status of this idea to Under Consideration.

We will be looking into ways to give more flexibility to the UI layouts. As we progress on that we'll provide any updates on this post.
Photo of cguarraia

cguarraia

  • 3 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes

That's great, David! Thank you for the update. I look forward to the seeing what updates you all make to Camtasia.

All the Best,

Chris

Photo of oscar

oscar

  • 6 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Sort of custom workspaces (like it is possible in Adobe apps) would be great!
Photo of drewakphillips

drewakphillips

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
What is the progress of the push for a detachable timeline? 

If no progress on this feature, what is the most efficient pro method when working on a project that has 10 to 30 tracks with many moving parts? 

Working in such a limited workspaces is super frustrating and so much time wasted just trying to get your bearings. Scrolling from track 21 to track 6 just to make a simple edit takes forever; especially if the system starts dragging or having delays. While being able to detach the canvas is useful, it only helps slightly.  Please advise this is a deal breaker for me as a professional Ecourse developer.  I've been using TechSmith products since 2007. 

Please address this issue ASAP. The tool should not be slowing me down it should be the opposite. 
Photo of nickskehan

nickskehan

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
Need to be able to detach timeline onto another screen like the competition or product won't be the product of choice, this needs to be done ASAP! thanks
Photo of mackinnon_a

mackinnon_a

  • 2 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
If this can be moved up from "under consideration" to "in the next version" that would be fantastic. I'm able to use a free program (Audacity) to make the edits I need, but I shouldn't have to use another program to do something that is native to Camtasia. Not being able to do this makes me regret purchasing Camtasia. 

The other problem with the way the timeline is set up is that Track 1 is effectively useless because that is at the very bottom of the screen so every time I access it the MS toolbar pops up. I can either move the toolbar to another position on my screen, or just not use Track 1 to avoid that frustration. I've reached the point where I'm only using it to store the sound clips that I pull in later, but other than that it's a wasted space that further diminishes the available screenspace for the timeline. 

VERY frustrating--especially when it's reached the point where I can work quicker and more effectively with a free program than I can with Camtasia
Photo of Mal Reynolds

Mal Reynolds

  • 472 Posts
  • 332 Reply Likes
> The other problem with the way the timeline is set up is that Track 1 is effectively useless because that is at the very bottom of the screen so every time I access it the MS toolbar pops up. I can either move the toolbar to another position on my screen,

Orrr... it sounds like you have "Automatically hide the taskbar in desktop mode" set to "On" in Taskbar Settings. (Right click on the task bar to access these.) I can't remember whether it's on by default but given the general cluelessness of the Windows UX team it would not surprise me in the least. If you turn it off you will lose a very teeny, small proportion of your screen real estate by having the task bar always visible, but you won't have this massive irritation which will affect ALL applications when you head to the bottom of the screen, not just Camtasia.
Photo of mackinnon_a

mackinnon_a

  • 2 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
Which I have also tried, but it leaves me with even *less* space on the screen to view the tracks. I have a good size monitor (17"), and this is still a problem. If all of the problems involved in working with the tracks could have been solved by simply changing the setting on the MS Toolbar, then there would be no problem. 

The point you addressed was one of the many problems that I'm finding in working with the timeline in Camtasia, as I mentioned in the rest of the post. It should not be easier to work with a free program than a paid one, and since I'm doing a LOT of editing for the audio tracks, this is a serious point of frustration--which could be fixed by having the timeline moveable and/or detachable the way the canvas is. 
Photo of drewakphillips

drewakphillips

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
This is a no brainer!! Why is this still not addressed? 

MOVE THIS TO THE TOP OF THE LIST ASAP!!!!!
Photo of Pollus Emanuel Zhudarak

Pollus Emanuel Zhudarak

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
they like to lose money for others companies