New cut-out tool a great idea, should add some more functionality

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New cut-out tool a great idea, but you should add some functionality to it.
I have been messing around with the new tool. I've liked the way it works, but the result is just that you can move certain parts of the resulting pieces around the artboard. Mainly it selects individual parts of the text and loses items. A bit frustrating if I want to move one of the resulting islands of the shape around the artboard.
I mean, it's a great feature, and I can see many applications for it:
Cut a shape in half or into quarters and re-arrange them to your heart's content.
Here is where the hand tool I mentioned in one of my posts would come in handy just to make it easier to manage. Sure you can use the move tool, but it feels a bit clumsy. I might even say frustrating.
I found that moving stuff around leaves a black halo in its place, and I should imagine these resulting pixels will be appearing on the resulting print.
See what other users think about it?
Cutting the canvas into sections can be a cool thing, but you need to be able to move them with ease.
The problem I see too, is that it only cuts away from the canvas and it can't cut shapes individually which would be useful. In Corel, it's called the 'slice tool'.
You could also have a template of a kind of jigsaw-puzzle and move around the pieces.
This is the point where I see a powerclip which is a container basically, encasing the image you select. Eye-catching graphics.
Being able to select items and establish the order of staking on the canvas (layers)

This would be a bold move; going from capture software with a few effects and to a programme which could serve to create top-notch graphic design work.
Think of the possibilities. You are moving into another league. You cater for both amateur or average office worker designer to the savvier graphic designer who will recognise the real potential of such an app.

It would be cool if the stamp tool could also take pixels out of an image or shape. Say you have a flour and use it as a die to cut out shapes on a shape.

Does any of this make sense to you. I'm kind of asking Snagit to up its game (Retail price) and give designers a chance to work with this amazing capture software. There are no limits to creativity.
Welcome to the big league, where the big boys play for higher steaks. The sky is the limit if there is one!

Just my opinion.  What do others feel about this tool?

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You don't mean the cut out tool do you?  You mean the Move tool or the Select and auto fill.

As fas as the Move tool is concerned I agree that the selections can be a bit too granular.  I was trying to move the row of year segments in this image:


The move toll selects each year as a separate object and I could not figure out how to select or  lasso all of them to move en bloc.  I would have liked to do that.

In the end I used Select and autofill.  Much easier.

Knowing which tool to use when is an acquired skill and there are often many ways of skinning the cat,

For the advanced Corel-like stuff that you describe, use Corel.
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Good morning.
Yes, the cut-out tool
Thanks
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I thought perhaps you could rearange the resulting sections around the canvas. :)
Thanks,
Regards,
Nick
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Thanks for the tip, but I had already found the order and bring forward, move to back etc... That works pretty much like CorelDraw.
If it's there, why not activate it? It would make working with objects and text much more manageable.
Did you hear that, Snagit?
We think layers would be a very good idea and it would make most of us happy :)
Thanks.
With Christmas just around the corner, it would be a lovely stocking filler...
Wow! Rulers, a grid and layers...just what I asked for. hahaha

Cheers, all!
Nick
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How did you do the layer thingy?? Is it Photoshop?
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I think "... will make most of us happy," is slightly overstating the case when the idea has only attracted one vote so far.

I have no use for layers.  I haven't used them in nearly 20 years of using Photoshop, I haven't missed them in 16 years of using SnagIt and I can't foresee any need for them in my workflows.

So they don't get my vote although I recognise that others are very enthusiastic about them.

All I ask, if layers are implemented, is that they are optional and do not impinge on the use of SnagIt.  For example, I am happy to add call outs etc as objects on the canvas.  I do not want to be obliged to create a layer in order to use them.
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It was Photoshop Nick,

As far as a layers panel goes. Layers are created automatically in Photoshop. Every time you add Text, Shape, Adjustments,etc.

SnagIt isn't much different really.
You just don't have a simplified and direct access to the layers.

You can collapse the layers panel in Photoshop.Switch to the Auto Select Tool. Then anything you click becomes the active layer.Just like SnagIt.

Anytime you deal with stacked layers, it so much easier to work with them from a layers panel.
 
I've read many complaint's over the years. Users simply can't select a object that's directly below another.
The right click then "Move Forward or Back" option. Moves objects out of their proper position. So you do whatever, and you have to put them back in place again.

From a layers panel. You can disable layer's and hide them, which make them more versatile.
It's so much easier to leave everything in place, selecting from the panel.

The SnagIt Layer's Panel should be Collapsible, or have a mechanism that allows for hiding it.

I do 90% of my work in Photoshop because SnagIt is a Hostile Environment to Creativity.

Most of my instructional screenshots are a combination of 2+ captures. The Lack of a layers panel is a huge obstacle. It's a real time killer.  

 If you could use every Object and subsequent Capture as a "Layer", apply Effects, etc.
  It would have the potential to attract a lot of new uses.

 
 
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The main thing to note about layers is that each layer can be edited without affecting any other layer. In the example above, you could change the graphic or text at any time without disturbing the photograph. You could also re-use the same graphics layer with different photos, or re-use the graphic with different text.

There are so many advantages of working with layers that it's difficult to summarize them, but here are a few things you'll love:

  • You can separate parts of the image and edit them without affecting other parts of the image.
  • You can use layers as guides or reference without including them in the final image (just make them transparent before saving the image).
  • You can safely import new images to add to the composition. Move the new image around, resize it and do whatever you like without damaging the original image.
  • You can create multiple versions of a layer and experiment with different effects. You might like to keep an original image and make a separate layer to work with, so you always have the original image layer to fall back on.
  • You can apply filters and effects to layers independently, e.g. drop-shadow, colour adjustments, etc.
The framework is already there; it probably would not take that much to activate. Not immediately, but in a future yet to come.

What I propose Snagit is not to make a full, bloated Graphic Design programme, but to make a stand-alone app based on captures with a strong set of tools to make anyone with limited knowledge or a small budget buy  Snagit as an all-around software to meet a few basic design needs.

I would not mind paying a bit more for such a programme.
A lot of users would be upset handing out 800$ for a Graphics programme when they only want to be able to edit and compose infographics and such.

I still think its an idea worth toying with. In the modern world, its renovate, innovate or be taken out.

Regards,
Nick

P.S. Have a wonderful day! :)