Overcoming the Flash/HTML5 challenge so that Camtasia is everywhere!

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Hello, I love Camtasia Studio!

One great thing is that you protect us, the users, from having to grapple with very techy issues to do with video formats and video player embedding.

Here is your chance to make me - and I hope others - even happier!

I have just been on the JW Video Player website. Their latest Player version 5.4 allows for playback with Flash and HTML5.

It would be wonderful if you could update your current flash video player to include the most up to date features, so that videos produced with Camtasia Studio may be viewed across many more devices, especially these requiring HTML5. Of course, this is possible by using our own Video Player, but most of us Camtasia clients are not programmer techies!

I know you propose Screencast as an alternative. But many of us need to host our videos on our own servers and your including HTML5 embedding support would be a great plus.

Thank you very much. Doris

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Mozilla and Opera supporting Ogg video, and Chrome moving to WebM format video.

Where are you reading this from? These three browsers support Ogv AND WebM. Do you have information that this position is going to change?

Whilst its not ideal, it simply means at minimum, we are required to produce videos in mp4/h.264 AND either Ogv OR WebM.

I cannot see this position changing for a while. You could be waiting for a long time to see how/if things change.

Given that Ogv/WebM are open standards, and you already support mp4/h.264, why not just output in Ogv OR WebM (in addition to mp4/h.26) for HTML5 support?
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This seems the relevant point. I don't really need Camtasia's help to write an HTML tag that is far simpler to understand than the equivalent objects and embeds currently used. But it sure would be helpful if Camtasia could output the Vorbis formats directly rather than requiring a conversion by a third-party application. It seems just as important now as adding MP4 was in the past.
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Exactly! It's not the HTML or player that I need. It's simply WebM as an output format. If you could do both MP4 and WebM at the same time "Output for HTML5" even better, but I'd settle for built-in Vorbis export no matter how I get it. Installing a third-party tool to convert is sub-optimal.
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I'm using Xmedia Recode to convert the MP4 files that Camtasia produces.

I've noticed that ogv files are considerably larger than WebM files. I can't see any difference in quality so I'm just using WebM at the moment.

WebM is owned by Google, and Ogv hasn't had an update for over 2 years, so if CS only included one of the two (WebM/OGV), WebM would get my vote.
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With the latest release of Camtasia Studio 8.0.0 we have a brand new Flash controller with HTML5 fallback that we’ve affectionately dubbed the TechSmith Smart Player. What HTML5 fallback means to you as a creator is that if your viewers are ever in an environment where Flash is unavailable, they’ll still be able to watch your video via our HTML5 implementation of the TechSmith Smart Player and have no loss of functionality in the process.

The new player supports playback in desktop browsers on both Mac and PC. It also allows us to support playback on iPad (versions 1, 2 and 3) and newer Android Devices. On top of that, we
have an iPhone implementation of the player that your viewers can download from
the App Store to their iPhone 4 or iPod Touch 4 to watch your videos.

We’ve also implemented the TechSmith Smart Player
on Screencast.com for Camtasia Studio 8.0.0 uploaded content. This way, you’ll
get all of the above mentioned functionality on Screencast.com without the
hassle of hosting the video on your own website!

The Camtasia Studio 8 team worked hard to make the
Flash/HTML5 features (Quizzing, Table of Contents, Captions, etc.) more usable
from both the creator side and the viewer side. Our hope is that you’ll
be able to continue to create engaging, entertaining content while reaching a
wider audience at the same time!

For more in depth information we have a set of overview videos on our website. You can find the ones related to the TechSmith Smart Player Here

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!
Brad
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Thanks for the update. Great to hear the new version will support HTML5.

Not this this bothers me, because I integrate videos with my own code, but for users who only know basic HTML, I'm surprised you chose Flash to be the primary output method with HTML5 as the fall back. HTML5 is superior in so many ways, especially accessibility. Whenever I see websites provide assistance on HTML5 videos, its HTML5 first, with Flash as the fall back.

Can we select which HTML5 video formats to output to? I currently only use Webm and MP4.
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Brad, Camtasia Studio QA

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HTML5 vs. Flash as the default is definitely something we'll be keeping an eye on moving forward.

Currently we only support MP4 down our Flash/HTML5 output path.

Thanks for the feedback!

Brad
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Then in my opinion, you haven't implemented HTML5. IE accounts for a little over 25% of all clients right now and its dropping like a stone.
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It depends which report you believe. I used to consider StatCounter the official source, but over the past six months its data does not seem to jive with data from other sources. Unfortunately, StatCounter is the source most often quoted in the trade press; if its numbers are off, press coverage will be off too.

Ignoring that, however, the May 2012 number from StatCounter is 32%, not 25%. StatCounter's number is the lowest of all the sources I checked. Most other sources have IE at about 48-50% and show a very tiny upward trend.
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Even if its about half, I still don't believe HTML5 has been implemented if the solution only provides an MP4.

This discussion is offtopic, but anyways...

However, yes, I was quoting from statcounter, but I did say clients, so including all handheld devices:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_...

I suspect most other sites are exaggerating IE because they could be ignoring /not properly registering handhelds.

Checkout Wikmedia...another source that DOES include mobile devices:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_...

One thing is for sure...it's dropping like a stone.

Anyway, like I say, its fairly irrelevant whether its 25% or 50%.
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Wikipedia is written from StatCounter, so it's the same. Check out NetMarketShare, where the data is broken out between desktop and mobile.

IE will not be irrelevant until its market share drops below 5%; I don't think that will ever happen on the desktop. In mobile, it can only go up. Safari dominates now but I think Windows Phone will do better than most expect and I think The Surface will be a player next year, pushing IE share up even more.

In addition, IE is strong in business, especially larger concerns. That's clearly fertile ground for TechSmith and Camtasia. The worldwide numbers may not be as meaningful to TechSmith.

I build Web sites. I don't use HTML5 video, at least not yet. Reason? Codecs.
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"IE will not be irrelevant until its market share drops below 5%"

It sounds like you've misunderstood why I mentioned IE's marketshare...because there are a huge number of users...let's just say 50% for arguments sake, that won't be able to make use of HTML5 video if MP4 is the only video output.
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I would agree that this isn't a full implementation of HTML5 and we'll need to build on it as we go. We'll continue to do our best to stay on top of trends and deliver the best solution we can to our customers.

In CS8 we have drastically improved upon our old Flash MP4 output by including an HTML5 fallback so that viewers on iPad or other environments without flash can still access our customers videos. I apologize if this is not your optimal solution but I would encourage you to continue to provide feedback here so we can take it into consideration moving forward.

Thanks!
Brad
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Any help for those who use earlier versions of camtasia?
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My client (for whom I have produced many CS screencasts) has a requirement to remove Flash from their server (for perceived security concerns). Many of the shows I produce have Flash hotspots for navigation purposes. Is there a way that I can use CS to output pure html5 without a speck of Flash?
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To clarify: I would like the option in the hotspot editor (or in preferences) to use html5 hotspots rather than Flash hotspots, and I would like to be see an option for publishing mp4 without any Flash, an html5 control bar.
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Not entirely sure what you mean but I created my own production preset, which outputs HTML and Flash, but the only thing I use is the MP4. I've written my own HTML to integrate the videos into my website.

As for the control bar, I just let the browser add controls by adding the controls attribute. I posted lots of resources above, but check out:
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_vid...

When I wasn't using a CMS, I just copied a template HTML file for each video.

Now I use a CMS and the code is slightly personalised by using custom user fields (e.g. these fields determine the width and height of the video).
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Working my way through all this chatter - bottom line is - Camtasia just needs to export am WEBM file !

Can this be done ?

thanks

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