How do you pause recorded video and narrate audio?

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The main feature that I was really hoping that would be in version 8 is a "pause" feature that would pause the video and allow you to continue to record audio.

I record my screen and then come back and do the voice narration.
I try my best to fit all of my audio in, but it would be GREAT if I could pause the video, finish saying what I wanted to say, and then resume the video.

So first, why isn't this a feature already included?
Second, is this something that could be added for a future update in version 8?

I currently have version 7 and the only option that will cause me to update to version 8 is this pause feature.

Please let me know if this can happen.
Thank You!
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Jordan,

We do have an "Extend Frame" feature (also available in 7) that will allow you to extend a particular frame of video on the timeline as long as you want so that audio narration can continue.

That should achieve the same effect as pausing the video during recording, as in either case you will end up with a static image on the screen while the audio finishes playing out.

I'm not saying the pause functionality isn't a good idea, just wanted to make sure you were aware the Extend Frame trick.

Randy
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This requires too much planning and "pray and hope" your audio fits into the pre-set Extend Frame. Adding the ability to pause the video (and with the pause, adding an Extend Frame **on the fly***), continue recording audio, and then unpause video (and with the resume, closing the Extend Frame just created ***on the fly***). This allows you to define the Extend Frames in realtime, instead of having to set them beforehand and then struggle to get your audio to fit.
This seems like a pretty doable feature. It would make your Voice Narration much more useable for those of us that record the video and come back to lay the audio on top.
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Michael, I've experimented with this a little and what I did was extend the frame more than I expected would be necessary. Then when I laid in the audio, I locked it in place and cut the extra frame time extension out.

What I actually did that seemed to work pretty well was type out the audio that I wanted to say, then read it.  When I messed up, I just paused a bit, then repeated that part better. (I don't have a camtasia version that will mark while recording, hence the pause.)

Then I recorded the screen only while listening to the recording.

Then I put them together and started toward the end of the tape.  Since my last take was the one I always wanted to keep, I went from end to start, cutting out the messed up parts of the audio.  Then I went from start to finish extending the frames when needed, usually extending them quite a bit, but cutting the extra once that part of the audio ended.

Maybe I made this more complicated than necessary, but it actually seemed to work smoothly for me and went a lot faster overall than when I try to record screen and audio together and keep saying um, ah, etc. 'cause I don't have a script.
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here is a way to do this with minimum effort ...

http://www.screencast.com/t/pV4p9piD
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There are a lot of ways to do it... but... 
It would be a LOT easier if you could just worry about recording the video demo of the software you are creating a video for, doing everything at normal pace. Don't even worry about what you would say for audio. Just do the task you want to display. Then come in afterwards, play this pre-recorded screen video back... and lay down audio on top ***WHILE** being able to hit pause on the video, and continue talking, to whichever points in the video require more explanation. The key is - this would all be able to be done realtime, with no prior planning of how long to extend a frame. Hit pause on the video section and Camtasia *automatically* starts a Extend Frame and hit resume on video and Camtasia *automatically* closes out that Extend Frame. In this way, you could still flub the audio and come back and edit it, and you wouldn't have to worry about the video part getting out of sync (as it would if you underestimated the pre-set Extend Frames and the video starts playing again before you are finished your perfect audio take).
It's all about efficiency.
Ability to set the Extend Frames in realtime is what is going to save time and work for everyone.
My "workaround" for this is to open a pre-recorded screen video in Media Player. Open Camtasia. Set Camtasia's screen capture to only capture the video portion of Media Player and not the Play/Pause controls. Hit record on Camtasia (thus starting my audio recording). Hit play on Media Player (thus starting the video playing). I can then hit pause in Media Player, whenever I want to dwell on a particular part of the video, and I can continue my Audio Narration. 
The problem with that is that you are a recording a video of a video... instead of working with the original screen capture. So you may lose some video quality.
Plus, you shouldn't have to do this. Camtasia is a pricy app and the feature described above seems like it goes hand in hand with Voiceover/Voice Narration. It should just be added.
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@kayakman That isn't bad. But it's a bit difficult if you are trying to talk TO the actions going on on the screen. 
"First I'm click over here in the left column under this header. Now you can see I am selecting all of these doohickies, and not these doohickies. I right-click and select Properties. And now I'm dragging them over here into this section of the screen. Notice how I am dragging them UNDER the existing doohickies."

In other words, there are sections of the video where I want to narrate the action AS it happens, because there is a lot going on. This is way more digestable to a viewer that telling them everything that I am going to do, then letting the video play out the actions for 60 seconds. And if I originally recorded myself doing the tasks at normal pace (not at a pace I would do while adding narration), the video is moving far too quickly for me to speak the audio to the actions seen on screen. Thus the need for pause.

Your method works GREAT for a video where you want to lay in a simple explanation, then show the actions you just spoke about playing out after you have told the viewer what is going to be done. It does not work so well for live narrating the actions though.

I like your tip though. This will definitely work for some of the videos I do. Just not the ones I'm working on right now :(
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maybe give it a try; when you use Voice Narration, the timeline plays and you can watch/see the action in the canvas, so you should be able to just talk along with the existing video as it runs
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@kayakman but like I said, the original was not recorded as a "demo" per-se. I wasn't recording it with the idea of "I am going to do this slowly, so the user can see every step I am doing". It was recorded with the idea of "I'm doing this at my normal pace (thinking I could come back later and pause video as desired in whichever spots)".
In truth - the video I originally recorded was for my team mates who are experts with this software and just need light guidance of "where to click". Whereas now, I want to take the same video and tailor it to beginners with the product, where I need to speak more and explain why I am doing each step and more details of how I am doing it.
My video looks like: Open App, click menu, click selection, popup display, click click click click click, close.
In realtime,this is maybe 6 seconds of video.
For a skilled user (my teammates), that's all they need.
But I couldn't even get 6 words out in those 6 seconds, and a novice would need, say 2 minutes of deeper explanation of each click.
So... when I click play, the section of the video is done in 6 seconds... and everything that I need to talk to is already done, before I even get started with my talking.

(I'm exaggerating a bit on the times above, but the real point is that the video of the actions is MUCH MUCH MUCH shorter than the time I need for talking. And I may want to only add Extend Frames say when the popup comes up, and when I am doing that 4th click. I *could* plan ahead of time and add extend frames ahead... but then I'm back to hoping my audio fits. Or I could just go back and record the original video, while talking to it, knowing that I will later replace the video. Both are options... but the simplest and most direct and most flexible and most logical way of doing it is allowing me to add the Extend Frames in realtime as described above. Make sense?)
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Michael said:
"Then come in afterwards, play this pre-recorded screen video back... and lay down audio on top ***WHILE** being able to hit pause on the video, and continue talking, to whichever points in the video require more explanation."

Ah... that makes total sense.  (It does seem like an obvious feature that would be in Camtasia.)
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well, if the live action is too fast, then apply a clip speed adjustment to make it play slower [like 80%]; that should make it easier for you to do what you want
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Again, not a bad workaround. But would be nice to just have the function in the product instead of having to figure out workarounds.
You're a sharp thinker. Very good workarounds. But it would just be a lot easier to have more control of creating Extend Frames in realtime.
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I don't disagree with your thinking, but what you're looking for is not currently in the product, and it may never get in there; hence, workarounds often have to rule the day

for what its worth ...

I have what seems like a gazillion man hours doing software application screencasts; I have had to take client recordings [narrated] and polish them up for distribution.

most of these have been captured at a pace that does not match my workflow style

there was always the option to use their video, but edited in a project with my own narration voice overs

but frankly, I usually found that is was much faster and easier to just watch how they did it, then, working in the app myself, I'd re-capture it all, using my mouse style, and my narration rate.  much less editing grief and frustrations

perhaps another "workaround" for you to try?

good luck with your work :)
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Yup. I totally hear you.
I oftentimes have to do videos that have dual use of internal (expert audience, so they literally just want a quick n dirty show of what to click) and external (slower, more explanation). So I'm just trying to save some time by being able to re-use the former, for the latter. Plus, I hate planning out my script beforehand. I would rather just talk to a pre-recorded video.
My workaround of playing the pre-recorded video in Media Player and recording that (while pause accordingly in the Media Player app) works fairly well for me. It just seems like - since they have the concept of Extend Frame, a natural feature to add to be able to define them on the fly with Voice Narration. It's TOTALLY a "wishlist" item. The product isn't "broken" - it could just be that much better with it. Here's hoping :)

I appreciate your feedback and like I said, you're a very creative thinker with a lot of good ideas to workaround/get the functionality that you/I/we want :) Thanks!
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I will try this. I think I may have seen that but was thinking that it basically copied the video from the point you selected to the end of the frame and pasted it again. So if that's the case, the video may repeat.

I am probably wrong. I will try it again!

Thank you for responding so quickly!
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This would be a solution if the extend frame feature actually worked.

In version 8.1 after I specify the number of seconds and click ok on the extend frame dialog I get a Camtasia error dialog saying: We're sorry! An error occurred. This operation cannot be completed.

It gives no clue what went wrong. I tried updating to current build (as of 11/1/13), restarted, etc. etc. always the same result.

I'm a novice with Camtasia, but the requirement to control video playback while narrating seems pretty basic and fundamental to me. Unless you're a master presenter, seems like recording without narration, then narrating the recording is the way to achieve a more professional quality result.

Bob



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This my issue also. It happens on all camprojs when a extend frame is used.
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After wasting an hour trying to figure it out, I tried starting a new project, imported my existing camrec file, placed it on the time line, and now the procedure to extend a frame works.

So apparently the project files were corrupt somehow ... but how .... ?

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Actually, this feature is almost useless if you also want to capture system sounds! The system audio track does not automatically stay in sync, i.e. the corresponding "frame" of sound is not extended along with the video frame. Good luck trying to sync it perfectly manually. (Key clicks and mouse clicks, etc.)

As nice as this product is in so many ways, it is surprising and disappointing to find that such a basic requirement cannot be easily handled.


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Bob C. I was just looking up how to do this and found this conversation.  The "Extend Frame" pushes the video and sound forward in my copy of Camtasia, so the sound stays synched with the original video.
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Laura,
What version are you using? Probably version 7 or older. In version 8 they decided it was better to not keep the audio track automatically synced with the video when extending a frame. So you have to manually select and move the entire audio track. Good luck doing that perfect so that system sounds like a mouse click actually align with the screen action. I'm not sure who this change was better for....

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in version 8, extend frame does move both audio and video; but if you have separate audio/video tracks, only the selected video track is extended

personally, when trying to keep video frozen and just insert new additional audio, I use voice narration to do the new audio, then apply insert time to push everything downstream; then I do a save frame of the last frame before the start of new audio [this give me an image] which I inset under the new audio, drag it out so it's the same duration as the new audio clip; then edit as usual; no issues this way with tracks not staying aligned

alternatively, if capturing the video, just stop interacting with the app you're recording, and keep on talking, then resume action whenever; keeps things very simple


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Thanks for the tips, Kayakman.  Bob I am using version 6.  I keep seeing notices to upgrade but never felt the need - though I didn't realize I was that far behind.

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This approach worked for me in Camtasia 2 for Mac. I first split the video at the frame I wanted to pause, and then extended the frame for the duration I needed for narration. 

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