PIP & Side-by-Side video

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Camtasia Studio 7/8: I need MUCH better information on PIP and side-by-side video. None of the tutorials have this outlined well, seem to refer to older versions, and commands and menu structure that isn't present.
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Dave O'Rourke, Senior Software Engineer

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Camtasia Studio 8 adds multi-track video editing, generic tracks, and direct manipulation of video (sizing, positioning) right on the canvas.

So the idea of specific tracks (PIP, Video1, etc.) in Camtasia Studio 7 is replaced by the generic tracks in Camtasia Studio 8. If you want the camera video on top of your screen video (as a PIP), then just make sure it's on a higher track (track 2 is above track 1 in z-order, for example).

The side-by-side video output in Camtasia Studio 7 is replaced by the ability to position videos anywhere you want on the canvas.

So that's a start. If you have further questions, please post them and we'll try to get them answered. I'll also send a note to our information developers, so they can chime in if there are other resources available that might help.
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the ability to have the video above the TOC was great. So there's no way to get that back. Disappointed if it is completely gone!!!!!!! Just made my life worse.
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Hello,
Please feel free to ask any questions you may have about the new workflow in Camtasia Studio 8.

As DRO mentioned, we no longer have the side-by-side option for PIP. Instead, you can put the PIP anywhere you want it and use the Visual Properties animations to fade the PIP in an out, grow the size of it, etc.

Here is a video that shows how the new canvas feature allows you to be more creative with your media:
http://www.screencast.com/users/Shane...

Kelly
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A basic default side by side option should be available. Its great to have more creative ability for the TOC but in education all we want is a nice text TOC to move around the lecture without having to spend additional time on the layout design. I have about 30 lectures that I am trying to update to version 8 so I can produce in html5 and thought it would be a simple project. With changes to the PIP and TOC features this is going to take some time!
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Hi I would like to know if it is possible to see video preview while recording screen. I can't seem to find it at all. If it is not possible with Camtasia alone, plz suggest any third party software and how it can be done.
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Hi I would like to know if it is possible to see video preview while recording screen. I can't seem to find it at all. If it is not possible with Camtasia alone, plz suggest any third party software and how it can be done.
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no possible, to my knowledge; I do not of a 3rd party solution; maybe someone else does?

just curious, but isn't looking at the screen as it is captured the same as "previewing it"?
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but i want to see the recording done by camera as well.
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Here's the deal madhukl555,

If you use two monitors you could view a small preview window of the webcam as it is recording.

Everything that appears on the screen as you are recording will be captured by the recorder. Consequently,  if you saw a preview of your webcam on the same monitor the webcam would be baked into that recording and you could not remove it or edit it in Camtasia.

You can view the webcam if you have the Editor opened on a separate monitor.
See Image Below, Click to Enlarge.

Not the best option but an option none the less. If you use a Logitech webcam you could record the webcam using the Logitech camera recorder  on the second monitor and see a much larger playback window. But then you would need to sync that recording with the Camtasia recording in post. Maybe your webcam has it's own recorder as well. That's all I got.

 Regards, Joe

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Thanks for this tutorial - the software has clearly evolved since version 7.
Whilst I like the feature to use custom callouts as a TOC, I often have a need to have a side by side PIP and screen recording and would like to be able to position a TOC below the PIP as in Version 7 - I can't see how to achieve this at the moment (v8.0.1)
I'm excited about being able to have my PIP zoom out to full screen under keyframe control but really need to be able to customise the TOC position and font and header text. I tend to use this from Powerpoint captures with say 40-50 slides which generate the TOC headings.

Thanks.

Graham Read
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I love Camtisa 8 except for one thing, the fact that the PIP side by side feature has been taken out. Is there any way to make my own skin to implement the PIP side by side? Can I bring in skins from Camtaisa 7? I work at a university where this feature is used quite often by our faculty. If it’s no longer supported then the faculty will no longer want to use it. They will be forced to use something else

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
What!? The PIP side by side feature has been taken out! Any alternatives?.
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Grahm, Glenn ...

Making a side-by-side PIP with main video is easy, just enlarge the canvas and position the 2 videos [PIP, main] side-by-side. Because the TOC will not be forced to show under the PIP, the PIP can be larger.

The TOC in the new SmartPlayer's MP4 production works great, and when not needed, nicely hides out of the way. Do custom production with multi files from markers, and the TOC list with index to indicate the current segment playing.
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I am very disappointed that Camtasia 8 doesn't support picture in picture anymore. I do a lots of tutorials for students with disability. The students feedback was that they preferred to have a translation through picture in picture instead of using captions.
Would this capability be offered again? Is there another way to do picture in picture in Camtasia 8 that maybe I am not aware off?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Picture in Picture feature.
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"Making a side-by-side PIP with main video is easy, just enlarge the canvas and position the 2 videos [PIP, main] side-by-side. Because the TOC will not be forced to show under the PIP, the PIP can be larger. "

That might be good in some cases but also coming form a university the pip option was great. If I record lectures the old layout was perfect: slides on the right video on the left with toc below. Now there is just wasted space below the video since it is merely impossible to place it on top of the slides as it would cover content.
I am sure there is more users fcing the same problem. So I hope there might be some way to produce videos with the same layout.

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this is how I do it in CS8; this production was made from a CS7 project that was originally built for 2 video side-by-side production.

http://cookbookplus.com/temp/TechSmit...

here, the canvas was enlarged, and the PIP enlarged to be the same height as the main video so that the PIP and Main video fill all the video frame; the TOC will auto hide, or, you can close with the TOC control

this how-to tutorial might be helpful ...

http://cookbookplus.com/temp/TechSmit... [19:57]
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Totally agree with Luka above. Sorry guys but I won't be upgrading to CS8 until I can re-create Luka's layout above which is exactly how I have been using CS7 for 2 years.
Having a TOC that auto hides is not required for me as with the above layout (live presenter camera and powerpoint slides) there is nothing to be gained by the TOC hiding - I would not wish to have my presenter video fill the space.
Also, in the kayaking presentation demo if you choose a TOC entry farther down the list nothing happens if the content hasn't loaded (buffered) yet. Selecting a TOC entry should stop playback and then start buffering the requested topic.
I would really like to have control of the behaviour, position and appearance of the TOC and by TOC i mean the one auto generated from Powerpoint slide names when you use the Camtasia Powerpoint Plugin to capture a presentation.

Thanks.

Graham
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my example was a single file MP4; if you produce using separate files from markers, you'll get separate short video clips, and the buffering issue goes away, also, the TOC items will index as play advances
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Thats cool. Its also good to see it works on Apples mobile devices. I just wish there was an option for the old layout - thats all.
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Can I show my PIP in a sidebar beside the main content in Camtasia 7.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
PIP in sidebar in Camtasia 7?.
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How do I hide part of the PIP video during the video playback?
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split the PIP video, and delete the unwanted section

or, use visual properties to make that section invisible
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Thanks for the rapid reply. I thought that might be the way.

So I guess it's a three-step process of:
1. Separate audio and video tracks
2. Slice the video into sections
3. Delete the unwanted section(s)

Someone needs to update TechSmith's help page on this topic. That page refers to a menu item that may have existed at some time in the past but not in Camtasia 8.
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I should have checked this topic before upgrading.

I too need to have the TOC visible under the PIP on the left. This gives students an ongoing idea of what has just happened, where you are, and where you are going by just glancing at the TOC. As it is, there is wasted space on the final render since I can't overlay video over the slide capture without covering content. I need a track called "TOC" that is automatically generated from the slide titles, hyperlinked to the timestamp, scrolls through hundreds of slide titles, shows the current location, and that I can position in the blank space under my full motion video. You know, just like in version 7,

Basic product development (which, ironically, I teach): don't remove features without another way of achieving the same thing.

This is a deal-breaker for me.
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In Camtasia, how can the main window be moved over to the side somewhat to display the teacher who is doing the talking? I've seen this done many times in tutorials, but do not know how to achieve this effect. Thanks.

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In Camtasia, show the teacher during the tutorial..
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Daniel, yes. You make the canvas larger by changing the editing dimensions and/or make the screen capture/teacher video smaller. You can then drag both captures around wherever you like in the canvas, for example the screen capture large on the right, the teacher video small on the left or whatever.

However unlike previous versions, the table of contents is not under the teacher video (which is what I am complaining about above) so you will have a big blank rectangle there.
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Another great feature in 7 removed from version 8.

I made the big mistake of upgrading after all the excitement generated at the launch of 8. Oh dear..
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I couldnt agree more - this just lost it for me totally, making what was easy, into something that looks a right pain to just produce a poor result...

I really wish I hadn't paid for the upgrade either...
(Dont know if I even kept the old version)

I'll be looking for an alternative product now, and can no longer recommend this product for much beyond simply PPT recording (which anyone can do these days..)

Very, very disappointing indeed...

I want (and have used extensively) exactly what Luka uses...
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If you were a registered user of version 7 you can download and reinstall it from Techsmith. Just use your version 8 Key. Hope that helps you a little.
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Is there really no way of producing with CS8 side by side screen and PiP that displays above text based TOC without having the visible TOC cover the PiP video?  See luka's screencapture above
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Version 8 - missing Picture in Picture and fixed table of contents - can you help.


We have been a long time user of Camtasia - over many many versions over many years. Most recently we used Version 7.xxx.

We just bought and upgraded to Version 8 only to find out that you removed the Picture in Picture feature and eliminated the possibility of creating a fixed table of contents to the left side of the main screen.

Why did you remove these great features?

Will you put them back in in the next version update?

We have actually un-installed Version 8 and went back to using Version 7 so that we can continue to use these features.

Thanks,
Don Brown
IWPC
donbrown@iwpc.org
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it is possible to do what you want in CS8

see http://www.screencast.com/t/zl4KyfcMc  for technique
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how to make this, the presenter in in front of slideshow   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Yyr66V45k&list=PLQ-4yx3wwCA7N39-DJwbhw6ugNq238qU3
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@kayakman that technique is without a side-by-side video.
Is there a way to have side-by-side video, TOC below it and slides, all visible?
Can I use CS8 to produce for my HTML template which requires 736x459 ?
MP4 must be 480H minimum?
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the technique shown in this tutorial will give you true side-by-side video in CS8 ...

http://www.screencast.com/t/MjsUuln3Fzk

it does not address the TOC below the PIP; that would have to be set up using hotspots; you could always use CS8 to make the MP4 videos then use CS7 to make the classic side-by-side production
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In HTML5 it should be possible to produce for any embed size, with the toc xml properly sized and positioned.
Is it impossible to produce slides+toc+pip 736x459 in CS8?

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Kayakman, that does not replace what we lost going to v8.  We need an automatically generated TOC to appear inside the rendered window, not as a pop-up as it is now.  We *can* get the TOC, and we can force it to appear by default, but we can't get it into the window as in the old version.
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Here's a thought for Techsmith:  If it can be done easily, by someone like your programers, do it and put it back as a selectable feature or provide it to us as a template we can adopt.  For those of us who don't program, we WILL NOT take the time to learn all the things needed to make a formerly available feature work almost as well.  We'll stay with 7 for as long as you support it, and start exploring Captivate.
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It is even worse Ron, in that you actually can't do what the previous version did.  You can manually make hotspots take you to different locations in the recording, but if you have hundreds of slides building or fitting these by hand is impossible.  All the information is there, since it shows up in the new TOC which flies out to the side.  All that needs to be done (he says without knowing much about programming) is to add a widget that can be dragged into a track called "Table of contents" and then be able to place that into the canvas where you want it.  It looks far less professional with that big blank space under the instructor video.  I can (and have) put a logo there, but it is not using space efficiently like the old template did.