Please provide a simple way to draw curved lines and arrows

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Joe Morgan has produced a tutorial describing how to use bezier curves to draw what most people will probably want most of the time,  the ability to draw a straight line or arrow and create a symmetrical curve on it. But, while the method works, it's not intuitive because it requires you to place one of the two hard -o-see control points at the very end of the originating end of the line, them moving the second control point.

That may sound simple but it ain't obvious.  If a tutorial is needed to do s SIMPLE thing, there's something wrong.

So please allow us to draw a gently curved line or arrow easily.

1. Draw a regular line from A to B
2. Provide a central drag handle on all straight lines (you can ignore it if you want a straight line) that you can move to create the curve
3. Leave the bezier option in place for when more complex line shapes are needed
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I agree, the Bezier Curves feature has been awkward and unintuitive to manipulate ever since drawing curved lines were possible in SnagIt.
My first tutorial was just thrown together and not up to my standards. I updated it and found another trick along the way.
So here's that version.

Regards,Joe
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Doug Troxell, Senior Software Engineer, Snagit:Mac

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Paul,
Joe's tutorial is Windows specific. Snagit:Mac works different with respect to lines. Is this behavior what you had in mind?

https://www.screencast.com/t/dOvX2MrE06W
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That's EXACTLY the behaviour I want Doug.  That's perfect. 

Techsmith - Why is it any different in Windows?  That's just perverse
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That works much better than Windows. So yeah, why is the Windows version convoluted?

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Doug Troxell, Senior Software Engineer, Snagit:Mac

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My guess: the window's line tool pre-dates the existence of Snagit:Mac by at least 10+ years. The developer's who did the Mac line tool just leap frogged them in terms in of user experience.  (there is also the issue of backward compatibility)

If you'd like to see the window's line tool improved; this issue needs votes.
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Sorry if this is a simple question but in the video Joe is working from the properties of Quick styles. How do we get the properties for arrows or quick styles open to expose the bezeier curve??? 
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Click on the arrow and it should appear in the Tool Properties on the right.  There's a slide button for bezier curves
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Thanks Paul, when I click on the arrow after I create it I get a mini toolbar but nothing else
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Do you not see this?  If not, please would you post what you do see?

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What version of SnagIt are you using Bill?

The Properties Panel contains these settings in SnagIt 2018.

Regards,Joe

 
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Joe,
Thanks for your help.
I thought I had the most recent build but I don't see anything that indicates I have 2018;
About Snagit says I have version 12.3.2 (build 2902) - Apr 6 2015.
Could that be why I don't see the properties?? (I don't have the properties panel or button as your arrow points out)
I don't see how to auto check for updates in the software???
I'll check with our software admin to see where we stand with our license.
BTW; how do you take screenshots of snagit content?? (Snagit window always closes when trying to take a screenshot)
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Oops,
Should have said;
Paul/Joe,
Thanks for the help.

Bill
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And there I was, about to flounce out of the room in outrage! :) (Not)

Capturing SnagIt itself is a Capture preference. Make sure "Hide SnagIt when capturing"  Is unchecked

Techsmith, why do you have to make the meaning of settings so obscure.  How about "Allow capture of Snagit" and default it to checked?  Plain English please.
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I think capture SnagIt by default would be counter productive for most users. If you think about it. That means all captures using One Click or  the Capture Menu Could contain this.
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Well, if Techsmith can sort out the One Click issue, I don't see why it should NOT be the default.  If I'm on a SnagIt screen when I press PrtScn, I clearly want to capture that screen.  Why make people go to the extra effort (and have to ask on here how to do it, because it's so obscure?)

Why not have a preset setting, like the cursor setting - a slider that says "Include 1 Click pop-out in full screen captures"
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I suppose it boils down to how many people want the functionality.
 I'm thinking 90+% of SnagIt users.May never take a Snapshot of the editor,one click or the preset menu.

We use it here in the forum.But were a small fraction of total users.
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Us, techsmith support r&d. Marketing and education and we're about done. So not the biggest cohort in the world
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My point,

Default settings should serve the majority of users.

  If capturing SnagIt serves the majority then it should be set as default.
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Hi Joe,

I'm obviously not making myself clear.  My bad. 

Since the setting can have no effect on anybody but us i.e. not interfere with their regular work, I would suggest there is no harm in defaulting it to on.
  
And, should a regular use decide one day to take a screenshot of what SnagIt is doing wrong for them, to submit here for help, or suppose they just wanted a record of their settings. it would be kinda nice if it just did it, without them needing to have to change the settings first.

For a long time I also thought SnagIt couldn't snag itself (d'ya see what I did there?) until I found that obscure and poorly worded option.

Don't get me wrong, I violently agree with you that where a setting affects all uses, it must be set for the needs of the majority.  My point is that this setting does not affect the majority and can therefore be set to the needs of the minority

Regards

Paul
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Okay,

 So, if Hide SnagIt When Capturing applied strictly to "One Click and the Open Capture Window".

If it had it's own setting as you suggested above. "I kinda looked past that". That would make more sense.

 Shouldn't the Editor be Snag-able. ( I did it to LOL). "Always"

 Who would  initiate a capture of the editor expecting to capture something else? Especially content appearing underneath it?

Hiding the editor form capture seems pointless really.
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Okay, so there are 3 ways apply Bezier Curves in older versions of SnagIt. SnagIt 11 shown below.

1. It's best to have Bezier selected before you draw a arrow. You can do that by selecting Outline,  Width,  Custom width. The Arrow editor will open and you can change the properties to Bezier.



2. Select a curved arrow from the Menu.
3. Select the curved icon in the pop up menu in the editor. This is the worst technique as it applies curves automatically.They need adjusting 99% of the time. That's why I consider it the worst technique.


Regards,Joe 

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